Some Wireless networks appears as local only

G

Guest

I do hope this post on an old thread will be seen and answered.
Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work
for all of them!)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us
Click to expand...

I really wanted to try this solution as my new Vista machine seems to be
having this DHCP problem. (At least, that's my best guess at this point.)
But I'm having trouble understanding the instructions.

It says that once you've navigated the specified registry path, you should
"click the (GUID) subkey that corresponds to the network adapter that is
connected to the network." How do I know which subkey that is? I have four
different subkeys in that registry path, and they are all just long
hexadecimal strings - I don't know which one corresponds to the wireless
adapter I'm having trouble with.

Also, the referenced page seems to present two entirely different registry
edits (the second one is presented under "more information"). Should I do
both? I can test them (and their combination) systematically, but I'd
appreciate any insight.

Thanks
carla
 
R

Robert L \(MS-MVP\)

This is a good question. The following answer from Bill Castner MS-MVP.

1. MS KB articles always start with the admonition to backup the registry.
In this particular case the restore point is sufficient.

2. It does not matter what {GUID} you use. You want to apply the patch to
any found.

3. There are absolutely two different registry values involved:

DhcpConnDisableBcastFlagToggle
DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag

Can you see the difference?

Open regedit. Navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces
Right-click, and select Export. Save the results to a file. Right-click on
the saved file and choose "Edit." This opens the file with Notepad. Copy and
paste the contents in your next reply. I will edit the results for you.

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
 
G

Guest

Thanks for your help and your quick response!


Robert L (MS-MVP) said:
2. It does not matter what {GUID} you use. You want to apply the patch to
any found.
Click to expand...
Okay; I admit to being not entirely sure what a network adapter is, so I
wasn't certain whether to do this or not. Just out of curiosity, is there a
way to figure out which GUID corresponds to which network adapter?
3. There are absolutely two different registry values involved:

DhcpConnDisableBcastFlagToggle
DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag

Can you see the difference?
Click to expand...
Yes, thanks - that's what I had noticed on the MS webpage, that it was
instructing two different changes. But one change was presented as "more
information," and I didn't find that very illuminating!
Open regedit. Navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces
Right-click, and select Export. Save the results to a file. Right-click on
the saved file and choose "Edit." This opens the file with Notepad. Copy and
paste the contents in your next reply. I will edit the results for you.

--
Click to expand...

It is below - and thanks again for your help.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{3a539854-6a70-11db-887c-806e6f6e6963}]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{3E4598C3-A8E2-418B-9B5B-929AF5E5EB80}]
"UseZeroBroadcast"=dword:00000000
"EnableDeadGWDetect"=dword:00000001
"EnableDHCP"=dword:00000001
"NameServer"=""
"Domain"=""
"RegistrationEnabled"=dword:00000001
"RegisterAdapterName"=dword:00000000
"DhcpServer"="255.255.255.255"
"Lease"=dword:00000000
"LeaseObtainedTime"=dword:00000000
"T1"=dword:00000000
"T2"=dword:00000000
"LeaseTerminatesTime"=dword:00000000
"AddressType"=dword:00000000
"IsServerNapAware"=dword:00000000
"DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag"=dword:00000001
"IPAutoconfigurationAddress"="169.254.14.95"
"MTU"=dword:00000514
"DhcpIPAddress"="0.0.0.0"
"DhcpSubnetMask"="255.0.0.0"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{6F50266D-6B48-4A54-BD12-37EA403BCB45}]
"UseZeroBroadcast"=dword:00000000
"EnableDeadGWDetect"=dword:00000001
"EnableDHCP"=dword:00000000
"NameServer"=""
"Domain"=""
"RegistrationEnabled"=dword:00000001
"RegisterAdapterName"=dword:00000000
"DhcpIPAddress"="0.0.0.0"
"DhcpSubnetMask"="255.0.0.0"
"DhcpServer"="255.255.255.255"
"Lease"=dword:00000000
"LeaseObtainedTime"=dword:00000000
"T1"=dword:00000000
"T2"=dword:00000000
"LeaseTerminatesTime"=dword:00000000
"AddressType"=dword:00000000
"IsServerNapAware"=dword:00000000
"DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag"=dword:00000001
"IPAutoconfigurationAddress"="169.254.229.142"
"MTU"=dword:00000514
"IPAddress"=hex(7):30,00,2e,00,30,00,2e,00,30,00,2e,00,30,00,00,00,00,00
"SubnetMask"=hex(7):30,00,2e,00,30,00,2e,00,30,00,2e,00,30,00,00,00,00,00
"DefaultGateway"=hex(7):00,00,00,00
"DefaultGatewayMetric"=hex(7):00,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{EB485DF4-23B9-4636-A4CC-F896D5899F55}]
"UseZeroBroadcast"=dword:00000000
"EnableDeadGWDetect"=dword:00000001
"EnableDHCP"=dword:00000001
"NameServer"=""
"Domain"=""
"RegistrationEnabled"=dword:00000001
"RegisterAdapterName"=dword:00000000
"IPAutoconfigurationAddress"="0.0.0.0"
"DhcpIPAddress"="10.0.1.3"
"DhcpSubnetMask"="255.255.255.0"
"DhcpServer"="10.0.1.1"
"Lease"=dword:00003840
"LeaseObtainedTime"=dword:46f86025
"T1"=dword:46f87c45
"T2"=dword:46f8915d
"LeaseTerminatesTime"=dword:46f89865
"AddressType"=dword:00000000
"IsServerNapAware"=dword:00000000
"DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag"=dword:00000001
"MTU"=dword:00000514
"DhcpInterfaceOptions"=hex:fc,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,29,\
60,f8,46,1f,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,01,00,\
00,00,06,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,0a,00,01,\
01,03,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,0a,00,01,01,\
34,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,03,00,00,00,33,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,00,00,38,40,01,00,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,ff,ff,ff,00,36,00,00,\
00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,0a,00,01,01,35,00,00,00,\
00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,05,00,00,00
"DhcpNameServer"="10.0.1.1"
"DhcpDefaultGateway"=hex(7):31,00,30,00,2e,00,30,00,2e,00,31,00,2e,00,31,00,00,\
00,00,00
"DhcpSubnetMaskOpt"=hex(7):32,00,35,00,35,00,2e,00,32,00,35,00,35,00,2e,00,32,\
00,35,00,35,00,2e,00,30,00,00,00,00,00
 
G

Guest

This is odd, I posted a response last night and it doesn't appear to have
turned up here. I guess I'll try again.

Thanks for your quick and helpful reply.
2. It does not matter what {GUID} you use. You want to apply the patch to
any found.
Click to expand...
Okay. I asked because I don't want to break network adapters that are
working properly in trying to fix the one that isn't working. Just out of
curiosity, how would I determine which GUID corresponds to which network
adapter?
3. There are absolutely two different registry values involved:

DhcpConnDisableBcastFlagToggle
DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag

Can you see the difference?
Click to expand...
Yes, thank you, that's why I asked the question - the MS page was advising
two different registry changes, but calling one of them "more information."
It wasn't clear from the instructions what the relationship between the two
changes was.
Open regedit. Navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces
Right-click, and select Export. Save the results to a file. Right-click on
the saved file and choose "Edit." This opens the file with Notepad. Copy and
paste the contents in your next reply. I will edit the results for you.
Click to expand...
Thanks again, I've pasted it below. I appreciate your help.

-carla

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{3a539854-6a70-11db-887c-806e6f6e6963}]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{3E4598C3-A8E2-418B-9B5B-929AF5E5EB80}]
"UseZeroBroadcast"=dword:00000000
"EnableDeadGWDetect"=dword:00000001
"EnableDHCP"=dword:00000001
"NameServer"=""
"Domain"=""
"RegistrationEnabled"=dword:00000001
"RegisterAdapterName"=dword:00000000
"DhcpServer"="255.255.255.255"
"Lease"=dword:00000000
"LeaseObtainedTime"=dword:00000000
"T1"=dword:00000000
"T2"=dword:00000000
"LeaseTerminatesTime"=dword:00000000
"AddressType"=dword:00000000
"IsServerNapAware"=dword:00000000
"DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag"=dword:00000001
"IPAutoconfigurationAddress"="169.254.14.95"
"MTU"=dword:00000514
"DhcpIPAddress"="0.0.0.0"
"DhcpSubnetMask"="255.0.0.0"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{6F50266D-6B48-4A54-BD12-37EA403BCB45}]
"UseZeroBroadcast"=dword:00000000
"EnableDeadGWDetect"=dword:00000001
"EnableDHCP"=dword:00000000
"NameServer"=""
"Domain"=""
"RegistrationEnabled"=dword:00000001
"RegisterAdapterName"=dword:00000000
"DhcpIPAddress"="0.0.0.0"
"DhcpSubnetMask"="255.0.0.0"
"DhcpServer"="255.255.255.255"
"Lease"=dword:00000000
"LeaseObtainedTime"=dword:00000000
"T1"=dword:00000000
"T2"=dword:00000000
"LeaseTerminatesTime"=dword:00000000
"AddressType"=dword:00000000
"IsServerNapAware"=dword:00000000
"DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag"=dword:00000001
"IPAutoconfigurationAddress"="169.254.229.142"
"MTU"=dword:00000514
"IPAddress"=hex(7):30,00,2e,00,30,00,2e,00,30,00,2e,00,30,00,00,00,00,00
"SubnetMask"=hex(7):30,00,2e,00,30,00,2e,00,30,00,2e,00,30,00,00,00,00,00
"DefaultGateway"=hex(7):00,00,00,00
"DefaultGatewayMetric"=hex(7):00,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{EB485DF4-23B9-4636-A4CC-F896D5899F55}]
"UseZeroBroadcast"=dword:00000000
"EnableDeadGWDetect"=dword:00000001
"EnableDHCP"=dword:00000001
"NameServer"=""
"Domain"=""
"RegistrationEnabled"=dword:00000001
"RegisterAdapterName"=dword:00000000
"IPAutoconfigurationAddress"="0.0.0.0"
"DhcpIPAddress"="10.0.1.3"
"DhcpSubnetMask"="255.255.255.0"
"DhcpServer"="10.0.1.1"
"Lease"=dword:00003840
"LeaseObtainedTime"=dword:46f86025
"T1"=dword:46f87c45
"T2"=dword:46f8915d
"LeaseTerminatesTime"=dword:46f89865
"AddressType"=dword:00000000
"IsServerNapAware"=dword:00000000
"DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag"=dword:00000001
"MTU"=dword:00000514
"DhcpInterfaceOptions"=hex:fc,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,29,\
60,f8,46,1f,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,01,00,\
00,00,06,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,0a,00,01,\
01,03,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,0a,00,01,01,\
34,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,03,00,00,00,33,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,00,00,38,40,01,00,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,ff,ff,ff,00,36,00,00,\
00,00,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,0a,00,01,01,35,00,00,00,\
00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,65,98,f8,46,05,00,00,00
"DhcpNameServer"="10.0.1.1"
"DhcpDefaultGateway"=hex(7):31,00,30,00,2e,00,30,00,2e,00,31,00,2e,00,31,00,00,\
00,00,00
"DhcpSubnetMaskOpt"=hex(7):32,00,35,00,35,00,2e,00,32,00,35,00,35,00,2e,00,32,\
00,35,00,35,00,2e,00,30,00,00,00,00,00
 
G

Guest

I have attempted to reply to this twice now; the forum gives me no
indication that anything has gone wrong - my post just doesn't show up.

I'm going to take a guess that the forum thought my post with the
copy-and-pasted registry text was too long, and so I am leaving it off of
this post just to see if it works.

Thanks very much for your quick and helpful reply.
2. It does not matter what {GUID} you use. You want to apply the patch to
any found.
Click to expand...
Okay - I don't want to break a network adapter that is working by applying
this fix, which is why I wanted to know how to tell which one was which.
Just out of curiosity, how does one determine which GUID corresponds to which
network adapter? I looked at every properties dialogue I could find about
the network adapters.
3. There are absolutely two different registry values involved:

DhcpConnDisableBcastFlagToggle
DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag

Can you see the difference?
Click to expand...
Yes, thank you; that's why I asked the question. The MS page clearly shows
two different registry changes, but labels one of them "more information".
It's not clear from that what the relationship between the two changes is.
Open regedit. Navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces
Right-click, and select Export. Save the results to a file. Right-click on
the saved file and choose "Edit." This opens the file with Notepad. Copy and
paste the contents in your next reply. I will edit the results for you.
Click to expand...
As I said above, I have been having trouble posting, and so I've not
attached the text. I do appreciate your offer to show me what the edits are.
But, I can understand from the MS page how to make the changes, I just
wanted to know whether I needed to make BOTH changes described on that page.


Thanks again - I really hope this one goes through, I don't need to add
arbitrary frustrations with the help forum to arbitrary problems with Vista.

carla
 
G

Guest

My apologies for the multiple replies; not sure why I was so dumb about
seeing them.

Thanks again for your help. I made the registry edits but it hasn't solved
my problem. I guess I'll keep looking for a solution.
 
G

Guest

Why don't microsoft release a patch for this instead of writing silly
articles dozens of suggestions about how to get a DHCP connection. I had to
downgrade three laptops due to this wretched problem (all of them failed with
a variety of networks). Making people wait until SP1 is not an option. Go to
notebook review or goolge groups or type "vista local only access" into
google and you thousands of hits by furious users. This is the worst problem
I have seen in years of Windows releases. Microsoft you must be mad to
destroy your brand in this way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
J

Jarek

Rob,
Did you ever find a solution for this problem? I am having the same problem
at my university, i connect to the network and on win xp when you open
internet explorer it redirects you to the login but on vista it just says
error loading page as if you had no connection
 
R

Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)

If the university equipments are incompatible with the Vista, the only
solution is remove IPv6 from the Vista. This how to may help.

Vista IPCONFIG and Network SettingsHow to: assign multiple static IPs in
Vista How to change the binding order of network providers How to disable
TCP/IPv6 How to disable IPv6 and Tunnel ...
www.howtonetworking.com/vista/vistaipconfig.htm


--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
 
S

SCChelpdesk

Hi Robert,

I don't see that this addresses the issue for those who want to provide an
unsupported, wireless AP that any Vista user can use (get to the internet).
Our Wireless system uses ZoneCD. XP users have no issues. Normally, User
opens browser and gets connected to the UserInterface/Disclaimer/Instruction
Page. Once there, they go to an email validation screen (stating give us a
valid email, create a password and when you validate, we won't kick you off).
User enters & validates email and now email and password are all that is
required for them to come and go as they wish. Invalid email keeps you on for
15-30 min, then kicks you and logs the email as invalid. Bandwidth is limited
per connection, content can be filtered and lots more. I have disabled IPv6
and it did not make a difference. There were almost a dozen things forum
posters on MS said to try and it worked for them. Others said they tried
them, but no luck. In my case, no luck.
Very curious to hear what the other posters here found as the resolution for
their scenarios. Microsoft is making changes for security sake, but leaving
end-users out in the cold (thinking darn it, maybe I should look at Macs!). I
don't own any Apple products. I support both PC's and Mac's at work.

Thanks
 

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