so what does IE or any of the IE shells have over firefox ? (any anti firefox ppl bother looking at

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Mike Fedyk

badgolferman said:
*ProteanThread* wrote:



1) The "click" sound.
2) Toolbar Mail Button>>Send Page
Firefox has "Send Link" and the suite has "Send Link" and "Send Page".

The lack of "Send Page" in the Firefox/TB combo is keeping me from
switching her to FF/TB from the suite.

Seriously, she uses it so heavily that it's a show stopper issue.
 
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Mike Fedyk

badgolferman said:
*ProteanThread* wrote:



1) The "click" sound.
2) Toolbar Mail Button>>Send Page
Firefox has "Send Link" and the suite has "Send Link" and "Send Page".

The lack of "Send Page" in the Firefox/TB combo is keeping me from
switching her to FF/TB from the suite.

Seriously, she uses it so heavily that it's a show stopper issue.
 
S

Simone Murdock

Ability to render sites designed by incompetent web designers.

Less memory requirement opening multiple sites.

Simon
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Fran

I tried once to make Firefox behave as mush as possible as Maxthon. There
are many great plugins, some obviously made to imitate Maxthon, but it took
me about 3 hours to get something that is "almost" like Maxthon. With
Maxthon I get that out of the box. But what mostly irritated me with Firefox
is lack of decent configuration. The small config screen covers only a
"very" small part of Firefox options, and I don't like configuring my
programs by setting boolean values manually in about:config. Still, Firefox
looks very promising, when it's out of preview phase I might give it another
try.
 
P

*ProteanThread*

Fran said:
I tried once to make Firefox behave as mush as possible as Maxthon. There
are many great plugins, some obviously made to imitate Maxthon, but it took
me about 3 hours to get something that is "almost" like Maxthon. With
Maxthon I get that out of the box. But what mostly irritated me with Firefox
is lack of decent configuration. The small config screen covers only a
"very" small part of Firefox options, and I don't like configuring my
programs by setting boolean values manually in about:config. Still, Firefox
looks very promising, when it's out of preview phase I might give it another
try.


That's why I like it, less to screw up. :)
 
A

Aaron

Fran said:
I tried once to make Firefox behave as mush as possible as Maxthon.
There are many great plugins, some obviously made to imitate Maxthon,
but it took me about 3 hours to get something that is "almost" like
Maxthon.

3 hours that's pretty good. Just curious what did you use?
With Maxthon I get that out of the box.

But you get other problems too, so it's not all win-win.

But what mostly
irritated me with Firefox is lack of decent configuration. The small
config screen covers only a "very" small part of Firefox options, and
I don't like configuring my programs by setting boolean values
manually in about:config.

Well that's the idea of firefox, simple for beginners, more advanced
users will know how to edit the hidden config anyway, so we don't need to
worry about them. I find manually altering configurations via
about:Config pretty intutive nowdays.

Still, Firefox looks very promising, when
it's out of preview phase I might give it another try.

You might prefer the mozilla suite instead, since most of the configs
changed in the UI.
 
F

Fran

Aaron said:
3 hours that's pretty good. Just curious what did you use?

Most importantly, Tabbrowser extension, which is for some reason not
mentioned on the Firefox homepage, and a lot of small Maxthon-like plugins,
such as add bookmark here, super drag & go and a few others. I was able to
find something to emulate most of Maxthon's key features, and though the
feeling was a bit "off", it was probably just the matter of habit, since I
have used Maxthon for about a year and a half now.
But you get other problems too, so it's not all win-win.



Well that's the idea of firefox, simple for beginners, more advanced
users will know how to edit the hidden config anyway, so we don't need to
worry about them. I find manually altering configurations via
about:Config pretty intutive nowdays.

Yes, it is pretty intuitive, but it's just a huge list of (mostly) booleans,
not what you would call user friendly. At leaste they should put in the GUI
features that can be found in Internet options for IE (i.e. check for newer
versions of pages in cache always/never, underline links...). That would
make the transition much easier for IE users.
You might prefer the mozilla suite instead, since most of the configs
changed in the UI.

I tried it, but I like Firefox better. I would consider it if Firefox
plugins would work with the suite, but as it is, I will just wait for
Firefox to hit the final version.
 
A

Aaron

Fran said:
Most importantly, Tabbrowser extension, which is for some reason not
mentioned on the Firefox homepage,

One thing about TBE is that it's rather well quirky. You can use a host
of smaller extensions each to replace TBE though....
and a lot of small Maxthon-like
plugins, such as add bookmark here, super drag & go and a few others.
I was able to find something to emulate most of Maxthon's key
features,

Really? Many maxthon users would be surprised to hear of this :)
and though the feeling was a bit "off", it was probably just
the matter of habit, since I have used Maxthon for about a year and a
half now.

Yes. I get the same thing too when using Maxthon. And I miss features
available in firefox not in Maxthon.
Yes, it is pretty intuitive, but it's just a huge list of (mostly)
booleans, not what you would call user friendly.

It's a bit of a black art, since you have to figure out what each of the
functions do. But then again, the reasoning goes, if you are a newbie you
shouldn't be messing with those.
I tried it, but I like Firefox better. I would consider it if Firefox
plugins would work with the suite, but as it is, I will just wait for
Firefox to hit the final version.

Most of the extensions used to work in the suite as well, but not so much
these days. I don't think the final version will be very much different
though in terms of features.
 
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toad

*CURIOUS*

As I recall, Firefox tab management (when you get a new tab and when you
don't) isn't very impressive. Also, I don't recall it having cleanup on
close in which cookies, cache, history would be cleaned automatically (I
could be wrong as it has been while since I have used it). Interfacing
to alternate download managers like WinGet or Download Express is
another feature I don't recall it having.

Personally, I like GreenBrowser as it has all of these features and is
slightly more refined than MyIE2 which is based off the same code base
(the original MyIE).

Toad
 
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Aaron

As I recall, Firefox tab management (when you get a new tab and when you
don't) isn't very impressive.

It used to be that you had to download an extension to do it, at last
count there were 4 or 5 different ones of varying complexity, from
simple up to TBE which was a geek's delight if you like playing with tab
customisation.

The latest builds of firefox (those after Oct 4th), allow you to set up
what some call "single window mode" (check advanced options), which
means that unless specifically requested by the user, tabs will be used.

I've tried it, works great.


Also, I don't recall it having cleanup on
close in which cookies, cache, history would be cleaned automatically (I
could be wrong as it has been while since I have used it).

That is correct. There are extensions that allow you to clean all these
with one click, but to my knowledge non are automatic. Easy enough to
setup a batch file if you want though.


Interfacing
to alternate download managers like WinGet or Download Express is
another feature I don't recall it having.

This one is possible, but I don't use download managers so I can't give
you details.
 

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