So I tried it...

C

Charlie Tame

Adam said:
Looks especially lame when the driver is for a MICROSOFT keyboard.

My experience, the Vista compatibility advisor nagged about two
applications I had on my XP box. Both Microsoft.

ROTFLMAO!


Not a word of sensible advice, just "It is driver issues..."
 
C

Charlie Tame

Stephan said:
The card itself actually works fine. The nVidia control panel is there,
everything in it works. I can adjust all the settings fine, the 3D Preview
works fine for adjusting the 3D settings.

Just the resolution is what doesn't work.

How would I even go about uninstalling whatever drive initially placed by
Vista? The device manager just lists my nVidia driver now so I wouldn't
even know what driver vista initially placed. I never bother to look for
that since my normal procedure with windows is to install it and then
install the latest nVidia driver.

Ah, well I may be mistaken there, perhaps my MB disk installed a driver,
but nevertheless NVidia say you must remove any previous driver.
 
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Mr. Arnold

It's not read. You little piss ant, you need to hop back under your rock and
hop around in the coffin dirt you sweep under the rock with your little
broom, and you kicked around with your size two shoes, you little piss ant.

You are nothing but a low-life rolling in coffin dirt piss ant. I don't get
into conversations with low-life rolling in the coffin dirt piss ants like
you, live with it. :)

<PLANK> that's a soft logical <plonk>, and you don't deserve a hard <plonk>,
because I always got to keep an eye on Adam Piss Ant Hopalong a NG
*clown*, hopping up and down threads. <g>

<bye>
 
M

Mr. Happy

Stephan said:
I changed it to Digital FlatPanel 1600x1200 but it made no difference. I
even rebooted the machine afterwards thinking that maybe it wants a
reboot.
A reboot is the standard way to try and get a Windoze box functioning when
it has problems. Since that didn't work, move on to the next
Microsoft "solution" - a reinstall.

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy
 
M

Mr. Arnold

Whatever you're whining about there is no need to read it, as it's boring.

<PLANK> that's a soft logical <plonk>.

<bye>
 
M

Mr. Happy

Swingman said:
My bet is that your system doesn't have the correct monitor driver
installed.

Sorry but monitors don't have drivers. You've used a computer before, no?

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy
 
M

Mr. Arnold

You have my apology.

Anyway, when you whine like you have whined, I don't have time for you
anyway.
 
C

Charlie Tame

xfile said:
To be fair, Microsoft has to provide enough resources and "incentives" for
vendors to do so in the same way that Linux community has to do.

If you were the CEO of the vendor, why would you want to spend tremendous
efforts on doing so for the "old" hardware? Will you benefit from it?

Will you do things that only have costs but not benefits as a rational
business decision-maker?

Quite fair. There is "Some" incentive to cover older hardware since if
people go buy new they won't necessarily buy a brand that let them down
once already. However it is one thing to release an OS to manufacturers
for pre install (So the people enjoying some of the profit do the beta
testing and quite another to sell something in a box for ordinary
shoppers to buy that most likely won't work properly on their hardware.
This is unavoidable to some extent, but the fact that it was hyped to
death and will be disappointing to many makes this seem worse.

I think many will go for the ultimate version simply to get "The Best"
so the disappointment / annoyance factor will be even higher. What you
don't then need is someone endlessly repeating "It's your own fault for
not ensuring compatibility" :)

To some extent we are "Spoiled" by XP because it does things very well
and quite honestly I'd feel cheated if I bought the most expensive MS OS
ever only to find it caused me so much trouble. The attitude with many
here seems to be one of "Mine's okay so you must either have crap
equipment or be stupid or both. This is sad because it damages not only
Microsoft but the whole field of "Amateur" computing.
 
S

Stephan Rose

Ah, well I may be mistaken there, perhaps my MB disk installed a driver,
but nevertheless NVidia say you must remove any previous driver.

Previous nVidia driver probably. =) I doubt they refer to windows' Vesa
driver ;) Wouldn't want to remove that one really...


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Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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Stephan Rose

Sorry but monitors don't have drivers. You've used a computer before,
no?

Actually under windows, they do. It likely is just information regarding
the capability of the monitor, but it still gets installed as a driver.

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Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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Stephan Rose

My bet is that your system doesn't have the correct monitor driver
installed. Your machine needs to know which resolutions and refresh rates it
can support, otherwise it goes to 1024 x 768 to err on the safe side

Have you tried nVida's latest beta drivers for your card?

Well apparently the beta driver helped the resolution issue. Not that I
like running a beta, but I'll accept that for now.

Thanks for the suggestion. =)

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2003 Yamaha R6

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Mr. Happy

Stephan said:
Actually under windows, they do. It likely is just information regarding
the capability of the monitor, but it still gets installed as a driver.
It is not a driver. I don't care how Windoze installs it.

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy
 
A

Adam Albright

Ah, well I may be mistaken there, perhaps my MB disk installed a driver,
but nevertheless NVidia say you must remove any previous driver.

That's SOP for all video cards. To avoid conflicts you MUST uninstall
any prior video drivers, then install the new video driver. Again, the
reason falls on Windows being dumb.
 
X

xfile

Yes, I agree with you.

For newer models, hardware and software vendors do get benefits (or at least
try to avoid penalities for not being considered) by providing compatiable
drivers or versions so they could push sales.

And..
The attitude with many here seems to be one of "Mine's okay so you must
either have crap equipment or be stupid or both. This is sad because it
damages not only Microsoft but the whole field of "Amateur" computing.

I also resent the above attitude and those persons simply don't know what is
compassion.

Both sides are rarely thinking from the user's point of view, and if they
want users to adopt their component (OS in this case), they have to make
sure that it will work with the systems and solve the problems, and excuses
are not relevant to or cared by end users.

None will expect 100% compatible and trouble free and that's why we have a
word called - mainstream.
 
R

Richard Urban

Drivers - Drivers - Drivers

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
A

Adam Albright

And all along I thought you actually knew what you were doing?
Sheese...!
Frank

Hey Frankie, do you constantly argue with you wife like you argue with
everybody here? If so, and I bet it's a yes, she has my sympathy.
 
R

ray

Driver issue.


Driver issue.


Driver issue.


No, it's the best the hardware vendors who wrote the drivers can do. It's not Microsoft's job to write drivers.

Mike

Who gives a rat's ass. If it doesn't work - it doesn't work!!
 
M

Mr. Arnold

You little piss ant, I am going to get you here.

You need to hop back under your rock and
hop around in the coffin dirt you sweep under the rock with your little
broom, and you kicked around with your size two shoes, you little piss
ant.

You are nothing but a low-life rolling in coffin dirt piss ant. I don't get
into conversations with low-life rolling in the coffin dirt piss ants like
you, live with it. :)

<PLANK> that's a soft logical <plonk>, and you don't deserve a hard
<plonk>,
because I always got to keep an eye on Adam Piss Ant Hopalong a NG
*clown*, hopping up and down threads. <g>
 
A

Adam Albright

Remember the insults you hurled at me?

You write them down?
I do! Well I did install urbuttoo
on another box with an ati card and guess what? It's the worse linux os
out there and I've tried at least half a dozen or more over the years.
Craw back into your linux loser hole now doris before you once again
make a stupid fool out of yourself.

You give lessons on how to be a stupid fool? You'd be a great teacher
Frankie since you obviously had lots of practice.
 

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