Slow XP Boot

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Bill Maxwell

When windows is loading the little scroll bar starts out at a normal speed
but about 6 seconds into loading it slows down to a crawl. I can hit any
keyboard key once, sometimes twice and then I goes right back to normal and
loads the GUI within 2 secs. If I don't press anything it takes almost 90
more seconds to fully load. I've gone as far as reloading XP and loading
service pack two with all current updates. Any ideas would be greatly
appreciated.

Note: All three hard drives are 7200 rpm with 8mb cache. Windows drive is
120gb, slave 180gb, secondary master 200gb. With 2 512mb memory sticks which
I have tried replacing.
 
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jgormlyjr

What is running at startup? Do a Start | Run | msconfig. Click the
Startup tab and look to see what's running. Start "unchecking" the
boxes to identify what program may be causing it.
 
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Carl lackey

Bill said:
When windows is loading the little scroll bar starts out at a normal speed
but about 6 seconds into loading it slows down to a crawl. I can hit any
keyboard key once, sometimes twice and then I goes right back to normal and
loads the GUI within 2 secs. If I don't press anything it takes almost 90
more seconds to fully load. I've gone as far as reloading XP and loading
service pack two with all current updates. Any ideas would be greatly
appreciated.

Note: All three hard drives are 7200 rpm with 8mb cache. Windows drive is
120gb, slave 180gb, secondary master 200gb. With 2 512mb memory sticks which
I have tried replacing.

If booted the XP CD to "Repair" your system, it is most likely that any
ad-ware, spyware or trojan you have is still there. The registry is
still interacts and when the trojan starts up.

Three of 4 machines brought to me in the last week have been infected,
and in each case, one of the following exists:

1. Adware removal tool found it and said it was removed, but a re-scan
finds it still there.

2. Adware removal tools and anti-virus do NOT find it.

3. Trojan has more than one component that "watches" each other, and if
one gets killed or removed, the other ones restart it. These are really
tough to handle.

Carl
 
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Bill Maxwell

I've run every spyware program (spybot, adaware, MS Antispyware). I've
scaned with Norton and Trendmicro's housecall. And came up with nothhing.
I've formated my machine about 2 months ago and that didn't solve the
problem. The only thing running on startup is Norton Antivirus.
 
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null

Bill said:
I've run every spyware program (spybot, adaware, MS Antispyware). I've
scaned with Norton and Trendmicro's housecall. And came up with nothhing.
I've formated my machine about 2 months ago and that didn't solve the
problem. The only thing running on startup is Norton Antivirus.

Since formatting the PC didn't solve the problem, it is almost certainly
not related to spyware/adware/trojans, etc.

I would look into updating device drivers for your PC and its
peripherals, as well as applying all appropriate OS and application patches.

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The reader should exercise normal caution and backup the Registry and
data files regularly, and especially before making any changes to their
PC, as well as performing regular virus and spyware scans. I am not
liable for problems or mishaps that occur from the reader using advice
posted here. No warranty, express or implied, is given with the posting
of this message.
 
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John Blaustein

Bill,

I'm no expert, just an end-user, so forgive me if none of this applies....

1) I have a firewire external card reader. When it is plugged into my XP
Home PC, Windows takes an extra minute or two to shut down. At first, I
thought the system had frozen because it just sat there. I discovered that
if the firewire device was unplugged, XP shutdown very quickly. Now, I
leave the reader unplugged. (I don't remember if the card reader had an
effect on startup time.)

2) I recently switched from DSL to cable. The DSL used fixed IP addresses.
Cable uses dynamic IP addresses. I may be imagining this, but it seems like
XP now takes longer to load -- stopping longer on the logo screen with the
progress bar -- now that my network needs to assign an IP address every time
I boot up.

3) Again, this may be my imagination, but when I boot with one of my Epson
USB printers turned on, booting seems to take longer (than if I boot with
the printers turned off.)

I'd certainly try null's suggestion of updating all device drivers. Since
you already have SP2, it sounds like Windows is in good shape.

John
 
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Guest

Check Device Manager for unknown/improperly installed devices. Install/update
drivers as needed.

Then check Event Viewer (Start - > Settings -> Control Panel - >
Administrative Tools - > Event Viewer) for possible clues.

How to optimize Windows XP, 2000, ME
for the best performance (Step-by-step Visual Guide):
http://www.fixyourwindows.com/optimizewindows.htm

Good Luck!
 
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Gerry Cornell

Bill

The scan by Norton will take some time. Have you tried measuring it's
impact?

Have the looked at the timing of reports in the System section of Event
Viewer? Are there any error reports?

Have you tried HiJackThis?


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Hope this helps.

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Carl lackey

John said:
Bill,

I'm no expert, just an end-user, so forgive me if none of this applies....

1) I have a firewire external card reader. When it is plugged into my XP
Home PC, Windows takes an extra minute or two to shut down. At first, I
thought the system had frozen because it just sat there. I discovered that
if the firewire device was unplugged, XP shutdown very quickly. Now, I
leave the reader unplugged. (I don't remember if the card reader had an
effect on startup time.)

2) I recently switched from DSL to cable. The DSL used fixed IP addresses.
Cable uses dynamic IP addresses. I may be imagining this, but it seems like
XP now takes longer to load -- stopping longer on the logo screen with the
progress bar -- now that my network needs to assign an IP address every time
I boot up.

3) Again, this may be my imagination, but when I boot with one of my Epson
USB printers turned on, booting seems to take longer (than if I boot with
the printers turned off.)

I'd certainly try null's suggestion of updating all device drivers. Since
you already have SP2, it sounds like Windows is in good shape.

John
John,
Where did you get the idea DSL has a fixed IP? That is an extra cost
service.

I was on DSL 5 years, and now on cable. Here is what I have learned:

If you have a router,
or not on a router and leave your PC on all the time

your dynamic IP will not change except for unusual circumstances. It
has nothing to do with Cable or DSL.

Firewire affecting shutdown times means the Firewire driver does not
respond to the Windows Shutdown command, so Windows waits for it to time
out (usually 60 seconds) before Windows goes on to process the next
device. Driver defect.
...about 6 seconds into loading it slows down to a crawl.

Sounds like a hardware problem... something is sending Windows spurious
service requests. Most likely guess would be mouse, then keyboard.
Swap out is best way to test.

Another thing that affects startup time is how many:
- objects you have on your desktop.
- How many FILES you saved to the desktop. Files need to be saved in a
folder that is not on the desktop. (My Documents is the obvious choice).
Did you know that My Documents can easily be moved to another drive?
RMB on My Documents and pick the Move button.

Windows spends a LOT of horsepower rebuilding your desktop.

If none of those fix you up, I am still betting on a process starting
up. Programs do NOT have to show up in your Task List. For example,
you don't see services in the processes list. A programmer chooses to
allow or deny visibility when he creates a module. Default is to show it.

Carl
 
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John Blaustein

Carl,

My DSL service used static IP addresses. My cable service uses dynamic IP
addresses.

I don't recall installing any special driver for my firewire card reader, so
it must be the Windows XP Home driver that is not responding to the Windows
Shutdown command.

Your post was interesting. Thank you for the information.

John


SNIP
 

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