Slow copying files over network

D

Dimpz

Hi,

I have a gigabit network with a netgear gs605 switch.

When copying files from my windows 2003 machine onto vista it does it at
only 5mb per sec. But if I reboot my machine in xp (its dual boot) and
do the same i get my usual 50meg per sec.

I've tried search the net for the past 7 days but I have had any
solution to this. Can someone please offer some advice?

I have updated the drivers for my network card to the latest Marvell
Yukon drivers for vista.

thanks.
 
D

Dan

Hi,

I have a gigabit network with a netgear gs605 switch.

When copying files from my windows 2003 machine onto vista it does it at
only 5mb per sec. But if I reboot my machine in xp (its dual boot) and
do the same i get my usual 50meg per sec.

I've tried search the net for the past 7 days but I have had any
solution to this. Can someone please offer some advice?

I have updated the drivers for my network card to the latest Marvell
Yukon drivers for vista.

thanks.

I'm having the same issue and am searching for a solution, I get about
8MB/sec max. Unacceptable.
Dan
 
G

Guest

same issue here. I get about 3-4mb /sec using gigabit switch wrtg350n and
netgear gigabit card.
 
G

Guest

Thanks Tom!

I'll give it a try - maybe it will improve the copying time too.

How do i actually get the patch - there does not seem to be any links to
download. I guess i have to request the patch from MS? Not sure of the
quickest way to do that.

Thanks
 
S

stevenpoole93

Thanks Tom!

I'll give it a try - maybe it will improve thecopyingtime too.

How do i actually get the patch - there does not seem to be any links to
download. I guess i have to request the patch from MS? Not sure of the
quickest way to do that.

Thanks

Can you post if this resolves your issue?
 
D

Dan

Can you post if this resolves your issue?- Hide quoted text -

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Sorry everyone, but I tried the patch and it didn't help with the
speed of the copy. I suspected it wouldn't because the article said
it addresses a "hang" while copying from a network drive - my problem
isn't a hang but a slow (5-8MB/sec) transfer. I had to call Microsoft
to get the patch 1-800-936-3500 make sure you have the article ID when
you call. Or you can email me and I can send it to you with the
password. We will get to the bottom of this, it's just a question of
when.

Dan
 
S

stevenpoole93

Sorry everyone, but I tried the patch and it didn't help with the
speed of the copy. I suspected it wouldn't because the article said
it addresses a "hang" whilecopyingfrom a network drive - my problem
isn't a hang but aslow(5-8MB/sec) transfer. I had to call Microsoft
to get the patch 1-800-936-3500 make sure you have the article ID when
you call. Or you can email me and I can send it to you with the
password. We will get to the bottom of this, it's just a question of
when.

Dan

have you guys tried turning of the Remote Differential Compression
feature?
 
D

Dan

have you guys tried turning of the Remote Differential Compression
feature?- Hide quoted text -

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Yes, that was one of the first things I tried - thanks though

Dan
 
G

Guest

yes, turned off Remote Differential Compression, but had no impact.
i'd be happy with just 10mbs - only getting 3-4mbs now
 
G

Guest

I have a similar issue, and thought I would share my findings.

One Vista Computer, One XP computer.

Gigabit NICs, Netgear Gigabit Switch.

The XP computer has two shares -- one large, one small. Both shared are the
entire remote volume on the XP system.

The Vista computer has one share, and used to run XP. When it ran XP there
were no performance issues.

All systems register as being on the same "Local Network" for security groups.

File transfers from:
Vista --> XP Small share - 4-6 MB/sec
Vista --> XP Large share - 700KB/sec
Vista <-- XP Small share - 10 MB/sec
Vista <-- XP Large share - 10 MB/sec
Now, I remote desktop into the XP system, and try the same tests.
XP Large share --> Vista - 11 MB/sec
XP Small share --> Vista - 11 MB/sec
XP Large share <-- Vista - 25 MB/sec
XP Small share <-- Vista - 25 MB/sec

I then set up the IIS FTP server on the XP system, and tried some file
transfers.
Vista --> XP 40 MB/sec
Vista <-- XP 7 MB/sec

I repeated all of the above tests using a crossover cable (to make sure the
switch wasn't the problem) and got similar results. I also repeated the
above tests with identical results with a second NIC.

When trying the same tests with my XP laptop and the XP system, through the
same switch, I max out the 100Mb inteface on the laptop.

With this information, I called Microsoft support, spent a few days on hold,
and got brushed off.

My guess, is that it is something to do with CIFS and security settings. I
have tried various changes in netsh, and gotten nowhere. I also marched
through the services list disabling one at a time, and didn't get anywhere
either. I haven't tried changing the services one at a time and rebooting
between each change. That might be my next attempt.

I might also try WireShark, and see if I can see anything unusual in the
network traffic.

My guess is that once the corporate customers start complaining, Microsoft
will issue a fix. For the time being, I'm stuck with FTP.

If anyone else has compared FTP vs CIFS speeds in a similar test, I would be
interested in the results.
 
N

NoWhereMan

My guess is that once the corporate customers start complaining, Microsoft
will issue a fix. For the time being, I'm stuck with FTP.

If anyone else has compared FTP vs CIFS speeds in a similar test, I would be
interested in the results.


Something that might help narrow things down. I also have the slow XP
to Vista copy problem.

But I've also noticed one other thing that varies in speed; using
Agent in SSL mode versus not. Normal NNTP port goes off and gets
messages in what I consider normal speed (compoared to my XP machine
running same version to same server). Use the SSL port doing the same
thing and it takes a long time to connect, a long time to log in, a
long time to download a message.

So I'm wondering if encryption methds have something to do with the
slower speed. I did notice that the CPU usage was unusually high while
copying a file from XP to Vista.
 
I

IceburgIV

Doesn't help the situation at all, but wanted to let you all know I
have seen the same issues. I am migrating a XP laptop to a Vista
laptop. I transferred all the data in roughtly 10 minutes. Including
pictures, documents, etc. I then took the same network cable into the
Vista laptop and started coping backdown. The ETA is 1.5 days. I
cancelled and reboot after disabling firewalls, and virus scanning,
and all sorts of other things, similiar to what has been tried already
and still have the same issue. I hung up wtih Microsoft after I read
that didn't solve the problem. Beings that I am a MS partner I will
open a ticket and see what I can find out.
 
B

boe

Sweet - I've turned off everything possible and even on an unmaged switch,
Vista crawls compared to XP.
 
G

Guest

672MB at 196KB/sec Vista networking sucks. I sure hope MS gets this fixed. I
too have turned off everything possible. After installing the patch to fix
the hang on AMD CPUs. Before it would just lock up while estimating time.
XP64 to Vista 64. Yes Bill has my money too. I have a 15mb/sec fiber
connection and I thought I would never see broadband transfers faster the PC
to PC.
 
T

Tom Allen

prisaz said:
672MB at 196KB/sec Vista networking sucks. I sure hope MS gets this
fixed. I
too have turned off everything possible. After installing the patch to
fix
the hang on AMD CPUs. Before it would just lock up while estimating
time.
XP64 to Vista 64. Yes Bill has my money too. I have a 15mb/sec fiber
connection and I thought I would never see broadband transfers faster
the PC
to PC.

I found that it was not sufficient to just disable my third party
firewall, uninstalling it immediately solved my problem with very slow
push file copies from Vista.
McAfee Security Centre came pre-installed on the Vista PC, I had
disabled the Mcafee firewall leaving the Windows one ( and the router's
one ) but it made no difference. Uninstall did the trick and an Internet
speed test which had been producing nonsense results suddenly worked
correctly too. Heaven knows what else was being slugged.

Tom
 
G

Guest

HEY EVERYONE
Try this. Go to control panel and indexing options. Do not index your system
drive. I turned off indexing on everything I could. When I did this the
network took off. BUG?
The hot fix that Stuart spoke of did fix the lock up but not the speed. With
indexing off I am a much happier camper on the Vista.
This article (just released) may address your problem:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931770/en-us
 
G

Guest

Same problem here on a 10/100 network. I get les than 1MB/sec more often
than not. I do get up around 8 or 9 MB/sec sometimes, but it's sporratic. I
use Dreamweaver and I have my testing server setup as a mapped drive on my
other machine. When I try and upload a file to the testing server in this
fasion I have to wait 30 seconds or more for it to go and DW shows 'not
responding' almost everytime right before it does transfer.

On XP this was so instant I could barely see the transfer window. I mean,
it's an .asp file less than 250kb.

I tried prisaz's idea of turning off indexing and the first test I tried was
with Dreamweaver. Didn't change a thing. Also, that would suck to have to
turn indexing off. That's one of the features about Vista I like.
 
G

Guest

Count me as another one with this issue. It's not even just annoying, it's
absolutely truly pathetic that the windows team let vista ship with this
issue. Microsoft needs a MUCH better beta team.
 

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