Slow computer

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Rob graham

Occasionally my PC goes slow. I cannot see why it does it. Today it's been
fine, yesterday not so. I note that the paging file has an initial size of
384 mb and a maximum of 768 mb, and is currently running at 441 mb. If I
increase the size, is there a downside to this? I haven't understood why
Windows has restricted itself to 768 mb. Mind you, I'm not sure that this
would cure my problem - which seems intermittent - but I do occasionally get
a message saying that I'm running short of memory and Windows is increasing
the size of the virtual memory.

Rob Graham
 
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AllenM

The size of your page file it contingent upon how much physical RAM you
have. Rule of thunb is 1.5 times more than the physical. So if I have 512 MB
RAM I would set my page file at 512MB-768MB. Another good idea is to move
the page file off of the system partition.
 
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Guest

You did not state how much memory (RAM) you have installed. Many
PC operators set the Virtual Memory (page file) size to 2 1/2 times the RAM
for Max. Windows does not restrict itself to 768mb, it is the default size.
I know of no downside for doing this. The increase could also solve your
problem.
 
R

Rock

Rob said:
Occasionally my PC goes slow. I cannot see why it does it. Today it's been
fine, yesterday not so. I note that the paging file has an initial size of
384 mb and a maximum of 768 mb, and is currently running at 441 mb. If I
increase the size, is there a downside to this? I haven't understood why
Windows has restricted itself to 768 mb. Mind you, I'm not sure that this
would cure my problem - which seems intermittent - but I do occasionally get
a message saying that I'm running short of memory and Windows is increasing
the size of the virtual memory.

Rob Graham

See this excellent link about virtual memory and setting the page file.
The old rule of thumb to use 1.5x memory is not applicable in XP:
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

See this link for some information on diagnosing a slow computer:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm
 
K

Ken Blake

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AllenM said:
The size of your page file it contingent upon how much physical
RAM
you have. Rule of thunb is 1.5 times more than the physical. So
if I
have 512 MB RAM I would set my page file at 512MB-768MB.


So if someone has 64MB of RAM (the official minimum for Windows
XP), he should have 96MB of page file? If your page file is that
small, the computer will hardly be able to run any applications
at all.

And if you have 2GB of RAM (more than almost anybody needs), you
should have 3GB of page file? That's almost certainly far more
than is needed, and is just a waste of disk space.


Although that 1.5 times is the default, it's not a good one. The
more RAM you have, the *less* page file you need.


Another good
idea is to move the page file off of the system partition.


If you mean to another partition on your only hard drive, no this
is not a good idea, and can hurt your performance. What it does
is move the page file to a location on the hard drive distant
from the other frequently-used data on the drive. The result is
that every time Windows needs to use the page file, the time to
get to it and back from it is increased.
Putting the swap file on a second *physical* drive is a good
idea, since it decreases head movement, but not to a second
partition on a single drive. A good rule of thumb is that the
page file should be on the most-used partition of the least-used
physical drive. For almost everyone with a single drive, that's
C:.



For good info on the page file, read the late Alex Nichol's
article at http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm
 
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AllenM

If running applications is an issue with you then upgrading to physical
memory is a better option. Page filing is an enhancement to physical memory.
You want the majority of your memory processes to be handle by the physical
memory. The larger the page file the more fragmentation you're going to
have. If you are only using 64 MB on an XP machine then you should not
complain about your machine being slow. Most people prefer to set the
minimum and maximum the same to avoid fragmentation. What the standard
setting for the size of the page file should be is always changing. I
remember in the old days of Win95 the recommended size was physical RAM
minimum plus 11MB more for the maximum. You get different answers from the
exact size, to 1.5 times the physical to 2.5 times the physical. Point is
the more RAM you have the smaller your pagefile should be.
 
N

NotMe

I set my pagefile to "system managed" size.
IF it needs more room, it takes it; if it needs less, it doesn't.
The downside of a set size is the possibility of exceeding whatever
arbitrary amount you have set.
My system has 1GB of physical RAM.
 

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