Slightly OT ? regarding posting to this group...

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Terry

In the last week or so I have seen a few comments about "top posters" as
being some sort of 2nd class citizens. This is the first I had heard this in
the over a year I have been using this site. I have gone back and looked at
all the guidelines, and there is no mention of top vs bottom posting. Also,
since the the reply dialog opens with a 'top post' style, I would of thought
that would be the 'recommended' way to reply, but I am willing to play by the
rules, if in fact that is what people want and not just the ramblings of a
few zanny people.
Comments?
 
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Andrew Morton

Terry said:
In the last week or so I have seen a few comments about "top posters"
Comments?

IMO, bottom-post, snip appropriately, in-line replies where appropriate
(having noted at the top (!) of your reply that the replies are in-line).

Andrew
 
K

Kerry Moorman

Terry,

Ignore the posting police and use whatever technique you are comfortable with.

Kerry Moorman
 
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Rory Becker

+1. You will never please everyone no matter what you do.
Ignore the posting police and use whatever technique you are
comfortable with.

+1. You will never please everyone no matter what you do.
 
G

Galen Somerville

Andrew Morton said:
IMO, bottom-post, snip appropriately, in-line replies where appropriate
(having noted at the top (!) of your reply that the replies are in-line).

Andrew

In a given thread where most responders are bottom posting, then you bottom
post. When replying to someone who top posted, you bottom post.

In a given thread where most responders are top posting, then you top post
and so on ad-infinitum.

Galen
 
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Michel Posseth [MCP]

Hello Terry ,

I have seen and got these comments to , nice thingy is that most of the time
the people who are members of the posting police are also anti MS the
default behavior of the MS products is to top post the reply ( outlook
express , web UI )

Just do what you believe is suitable in terms of readability of the thread

Michel
 
T

Tom Shelton

In the last week or so I have seen a few comments about "top posters" as
being some sort of 2nd class citizens. This is the first I had heard this in
the over a year I have been using this site. I have gone back and looked at
all the guidelines, and there is no mention of top vs bottom posting. Also,
since the the reply dialog opens with a 'top post' style, I would of thought
that would be the 'recommended' way to reply, but I am willing to play by the
rules, if in fact that is what people want and not just the ramblings of a
few zanny people.
Comments?

Terry,

This topic has been debated off and on... I can tell you, that the
argument originates from the fact that the accepted style for usenet
posts has been bottom post (and inline replies) for a long time. The
problem is, that MS producst tend to ignore that long standing convention
and default to top posting - which has lead many people new to usenet or
who have mainly been in the MS world the mistaken impression that this is
the norm.

If you think about it, bottom posting actually makes more sense, because
if trimming and quoting is done correctly, you can read the post top to
bottom, like any article, and have the full context without going back
up the thread - especially handy if you do not have the full thread
available on your server. Top posting makes it more difficult for this
to work, since you have to start at the bottom and work up to keep
context.

That said, do as you will :)
 
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RobinS

This sort of question can start a war. Some people have very strong opinions
about it. I agree with others that it's not something to get anal-retentive
about. If people reply and bottom post and I want to add something, I bottom
post too. If nobody's replied, or if they are top-posting, I top-post.
That's just my preference.

Good luck.
RobinS.
GoldMail.com
 
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Steve Gerrard

Terry said:
In the last week or so I have seen > How about side posting?
a few comments about "top posters" > It makes following the
as being some sort of 2nd class > the previous post very
citizens. This is the first I had > easy - just read along.
heard this in the over a year I > It does require a little
have been using this site. I have > work, but that just makes
gone back and looked at all the > makes you think twice
guidelines, and there is no mention > about what you are
of top vs bottom posting. Also, > going to say.
since the the reply dialog opens > This gag worked
with a 'top post' style, I would > in the VB6 forums,
of thought that would be the > so why not here?
'recommended' way to reply, > I feel obligated to
but I am willing to play by the rules, if > fill the rest of this
in fact that is what people want > column with something.
and not just the ramblings of a few >
zanny people. > Steve
Comments?
 
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Michael D. Ober

Right on. Top posting has the additional benefit of putting the current
part of the thread where the reading panes (whether it be a new window or a
child window of some sort).

Mike.
 
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Guest

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Terry,

Ignore the posting police and use whatever technique you are
comfortable with.

Usenet etiquette recommends bottom posting.

You can talk with your mouth full, but it's not polite now is it?
 
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Kerry Moorman

Spam Catcher,

"The posting police wouldn't give me no peace. They said I was a nasty
person."

Kerry Moorman
 
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Cor Ligthert[MVP]

Hi,

The etiquete created at the Austrian or the French court.

Or just by some guys/girls who thought that they should say what everybody
should do and did not understand the word etiquete.

(It is not an English word before you misunderstand it)


Cor
 
G

Guest

The etiquete created at the Austrian or the French court.

Or just by some guys/girls who thought that they should say what
everybody should do and did not understand the word etiquete.

(It is not an English word before you misunderstand it)

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R

RobinS

Great! Make me laugh! Now I have Pepsi all over my monitor.

RobinS.
GoldMail.com
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T

Terry

Well - no wars! Si I can do as I see fit - and to heck with the "posting
police."

Thanks to all who took the time to reply!
 
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Just_a_fan

The real trouble is that email is always top post and programs OTHER
than M$ also default to top post for Usenet posts.

Bottom posting take much scrolling. Yes, it is date/time order but if
you are following the post, you have to scroll through the same stuff
over and over.

And, if you ARE following the thread, you know what is there and top
posting makes ever so much sense. Just pop the item open and read.

Personally, I don't see ANY problem with top posting for everything. If
you need the background, YOU can scroll back and everyone else who does
not need the background just reads the latest with having to scroll all
the way through a post to see (sometimes) one additional line.

Top posting makes sense all the way around. Those OFs who say "well, it
has always been done this way and, by damn, we are going to continue"
might just like top posting if they tried it. Saves lots of time
scrolling down through the same junque, time after time, post after
post, day after tiresome day and lets you quickly read the latest every
time!

Mike
 
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Terry

I agree wholeheartedly! Hate scrolling down to find what *new* has been
added to the thread. I am not an old time usenet user, and if that is the
only reason for bottom posting, they can ... well you get my drift!
 

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