Should I Install sp1?

[Ross M. Greenberg]

I'm running Vista Ultimate and am generally satisfied with Vista. I'm a developer/webpage designer/writer. I downloaded SP 1 today and Visual Studio 2008-Professional.

I use DreamWeaver CS 3 and DreamWeaver 8, Word 2007 and the few tools, such as Cute FTP.

I have to install VS 2008 Professional -- but I question if I should install Vista SP 1. What all the pros and what are the cons?

Thanks!

Ross

 

[Dustin Harper]

Pros are that it has a lot of fixes in it, speed improvements, security
patches. Cons are that it does break a few programs (mostly security
software). But, it is generally a good idea to install the service pack.

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I'm running Vista Ultimate and am generally satisfied with Vista. I'm a
developer/webpage designer/writer. I downloaded SP 1 today and Visual
Studio 2008-Professional.

I use DreamWeaver CS 3 and DreamWeaver 8, Word 2007 and the few tools, such
as Cute FTP.

I have to install VS 2008 Professional -- but I question if I should install
Vista SP 1. What all the pros and what are the cons?

Thanks!

Ross

 

[Bob Campbell]

I'm running Vista Ultimate and am generally satisfied with Vista. I'm a
developer/webpage designer/writer. I downloaded SP 1 today >and Visual
Studio 2008-Professional.

I use DreamWeaver CS 3 and DreamWeaver 8, Word 2007 and the few tools, such
as Cute FTP.

I have to install VS 2008 Professional -- but I question if I should
install Vista SP 1. What all the pros and what are the cons?

Absolutely install SP1. I can't think if any cons. I'm running Ultimate
64 with SP1. No problems here.

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

I'm running Vista Ultimate and am generally satisfied with Vista. I'm a
developer/webpage designer/writer. I downloaded SP 1 today and Visual
Studio 2008-Professional.

I use DreamWeaver CS 3 and DreamWeaver 8, Word 2007 and the few tools, such
as Cute FTP.

I have to install VS 2008 Professional -- but I question if I should install
Vista SP 1. What all the pros and what are the cons?

Thanks!

Ross


The pros are that it improves Vista. The cons are that the installation
doesn't always go smoothly.

If you are in the habit of making backup images, it may not be a bad idea
before installing SP1. When you are sure that it is in place and everything
is ok, then install VS 2008.

A quick note. SP1 backs up quite a few files. If the installation of SP1 is
ok and you don't see yourself uninstalling it, there is a small file called
'Vsp1cln.exe' included in SP1 which can be manually run. Do an advanced
search for the file, remembering to check the box to include non-indexed and
hidden files. When found, double click on it and a small 'command' window
will appear. It will ask you if you want to continue, and will warn you that
SP1 will be a permanent fixture if you answer 'Y'.

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[Bob F.]

Absolutely install SP1. I can't think if any cons. I'm running
Ultimate 64 with SP1. No problems here.

Here's what I'm thinking. First of all, I learn a lot by watching others
touch a hot stove first. I might do that this time. If I'm not mistaken
all the SP1 installations so far have been "clean" installs since no upgrade
version has been released yet, Right?? The general SP1 release next week
will be an upgrade. So I think I'll just turn off updates for two weeks to
see how things go. After all ,someone has to be left alive to re-establish
the base of humanity.

 

[Bob Campbell]

Here's what I'm thinking. First of all, I learn a lot by watching others
touch a hot stove first. I might do that this time. If I'm not mistaken
all the SP1 installations so far have been "clean" installs since no
upgrade version has been released yet, Right?? The general SP1 release
next week will be an upgrade. So I think I'll just turn off updates for
two weeks to see how things go. After all ,someone has to be left alive
to re-establish the base of humanity.

LOL.

Yeah, it's always fun to watch the "early adopters" hash out the inevitable
problems.

In my case, I waited for the complete Vista 64 with SP1 ISO to appear on
MSDN. It appeared last week, so I downloaded it and just did one install
and I was ready to go.

But personally, I've never had any problems installing SPs. NT 4 SP1 - 6a,
2000 SP1 - SP4, Server 2003 SP1 and SP2, XP SP1 and SP2. I'll install XP
SP3 when it comes out, on my lone remaining XP machine (old laptop).

 

[Ross M. Greenberg]

Yeah, it's always fun to watch the "early adopters" hash out the inevitable
problems.

In my case, I waited for the complete Vista 64 with SP1 ISO to appear on
MSDN. It appeared last week, so I downloaded it and just did one install
and I was ready to go.

But personally, I've never had any problems installing SPs. NT 4 SP1 - 6a,
2000 SP1 - SP4, Server 2003 SP1 and SP2, XP SP1 and SP2. I'll install XP
SP3 when it comes out, on my lone remaining XP machine (old laptop).

It took me a long time to install SP2 on XP -- I waited for all of the "early adapters" to get burned. I figured there was no harm in simply waiting it all out.

The only complaint I have onto Vista is that it feels so*slow*compared to XP -- with this service pack is supposed to make it operate more quickly...

Ross

 

[Bob Campbell]

It took me a long time to install SP2 on XP -- I waited for all of the
"early adapters" to get burned. I figured there was no harm in simply
waiting it all out.

The only complaint I have onto Vista is that it feels so*slow*compared to
XP -- with this service pack is supposed to make it operate more quickly...

That's strange - it's definately faster than XP here.

 

[Ross M. Greenberg]

That's strange - it's definately faster than XP here.


At first blush, my Vista Ultimate with SP 1 installed is substantially faster than without SP 1. For example, I used Dragon NaturallySpeaking on a fast machine with a bunch of memory. Under XP Pro, it was almost fast enough. Under my original Vista Ultimate, it wasn't. With the new service pack installed, and now it is.

Word 2007 and Visual Studio 2008 seem to function better as well.

Ross

 

[Bob Campbell]

At first blush, my Vista Ultimate with SP 1 installed is substantially
faster than without SP 1. For example, I used Dragon NaturallySpeaking on
a fast >machine with a bunch of memory. Under XP Pro, it was almost fast
enough. Under my original Vista Ultimate, it wasn't. With the new service
pack >installed, and now it is.

Word 2007 and Visual Studio 2008 seem to function better as well.

Yeah, SP1 is a big improvement. The Vista bashers will be scrambing now
to find something else to whine about.

 

[Ross M. Greenberg]

Yeah, SP1 is a big improvement. The Vista bashers will be scrambing now
to find something else to whine about.

And just some more data points to consider: my disk defrag program, Auslogics 1.2, was taking about two hours to run previous to SP 1. After installation, it's now down to an hour or so.

Additionally, after installing the service pack -- which took about three hours to install! -- about 30 GB suddenly showed up as free space! I have no idea where it came from but nothing seems missing and all of my programs are able to run and all my data is available as well. I'm not complaining!

Ross

 

[Bob]

Yeah, SP1 is a big improvement. The Vista bashers will be scrambing now
to find something else to whine about.

And just some more data points to consider: my disk defrag program,
Auslogics 1.2, was taking about two hours to run previous to SP 1. After
installation, it's now down to an hour or so.

Additionally, after installing the service pack -- which took about three
hours to install! -- about 30 GB suddenly showed up as free space! I have
no idea where it came from but nothing seems missing and all of my programs
are able to run and all my data is available as well. I'm not complaining!


Check to see if your restore points were deleted.

 

[Ross M. Greenberg]

Check to see if your restore points were deleted.

good call! All of my restore points are gone, aside from a single pre-service pack one, and two post service pack. But still: 30 GB of restore points? Maybe a half dozen or so...

Thanks.

Ross