shariung the same contacts for outlook and outlook express in the same machine

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

I doubt it would be in ActiveSync. It is entirely possible that PDA
manufacturers have added the change to the installation of Outlook that they
provide with their hardware since they know they are would force many users
to migrate from OE to Outlook without it, and many users do not want to
migrate.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Russ,
I have no idea at all why I have this and some people do not. I never added
any tweaks or any register changes at all, but just stumbled on this. Never
been able to find any info on it in the help menu either. I have used it
every time that I have upgraded OE (including some patches) as the default
mode on mine is NOT to share the address book and the address book that
normally I would see, would only be a very small one, once it is switched,
it goes back to the full address book. I noticed that in the slipstick URL
you posted that at the bottom is says:
"Also note that when you use Outlook Express you'll see Outlook.exe running
in Task Manager even if you don't have Outlook open."

I have checked the Task Manager and Outlook is NOT running. So maybe
something is different with what I have.
Like I said, I have never made any registry change as I stay away from it
since I do not fully understand it. I will look and see if I can find any
reference to the DWORD and let you know what I find. Is there any chance
that ActiveSync might make this change ?

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA

I'm well aware of the option. I simply know that it has not existed since
Microsoft abandoned IMO mode. Why do none of the rest of have this option?
Documented here:
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm

Check your registry. I bet you've got the DWORD and its set to 1.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

The feature has been well documented in the Windows CE and Pocket PC groups
since 1999 since the PDA's only work with Outlook. As I have said, No
registry changes were made by me. First documented by other MVP's (Frank
McPherson and is in his book "Everything you always wanted to do with
your
iPaq PDA" PSS came from Paul Hayes, Technical Lead-PSS WA MPS Desktop.
It
also runs on my Windows 98SE with OE 6.0.2800 and Outlook 2002. Screen
Print for you included. Sorry but you have some incorrect information on
this one.


--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA


Post the link.
No such option in any released version of Outlook or OE.
SP2 is another matter. It is certainly an easy feature to add with a
simple
registry change.

 

[Tedd Riggs]

I was going to say the same thing about the Version of Outlook that comes
with the PDA. On my last PDA, it included Outlook 2002 and had this feature
of cross address books. I upgraded that version to the full retail of Office
2003 and the feature still remains. Not sure if this is a "hangover" from
the PDA supplied Outlook.

If this helps at all,
the Setup file on the disk is Version 10.0.2627, Created Wednesday,
February 28, 2001, 11:14:46 AM
and is 465 KB (476,576 bytes),

The OFFICE1.CAB is 153 MB (161,115,025 bytes) (Zipped) and Created
Wednesday, March 07, 2001, 4:03:28 AM

In the ReadMe or INF files, I do not see anything about the DWORD or any
Register changes that it does.
Yes my guess is the same as you that it is there to force Windows CE users
to Outlook since it does not support Outlook Express.
Another mystery someplace in the files !

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA

I doubt it would be in ActiveSync. It is entirely possible that PDA
manufacturers have added the change to the installation of Outlook that
they
provide with their hardware since they know they are would force many
users
to migrate from OE to Outlook without it, and many users do not want to
migrate.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Russ,
I have no idea at all why I have this and some people do not. I never added
any tweaks or any register changes at all, but just stumbled on this. Never
been able to find any info on it in the help menu either. I have used it
every time that I have upgraded OE (including some patches) as the
default
mode on mine is NOT to share the address book and the address book that
normally I would see, would only be a very small one, once it is
switched,
it goes back to the full address book. I noticed that in the slipstick
URL
you posted that at the bottom is says:
"Also note that when you use Outlook Express you'll see Outlook.exe running
in Task Manager even if you don't have Outlook open."

I have checked the Task Manager and Outlook is NOT running. So maybe
something is different with what I have.
Like I said, I have never made any registry change as I stay away from it
since I do not fully understand it. I will look and see if I can find any
reference to the DWORD and let you know what I find. Is there any chance
that ActiveSync might make this change ?

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA

I'm well aware of the option. I simply know that it has not existed since
Microsoft abandoned IMO mode. Why do none of the rest of have this option?
Documented here:
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm

Check your registry. I bet you've got the DWORD and its set to 1.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
The feature has been well documented in the Windows CE and Pocket PC
groups
since 1999 since the PDA's only work with Outlook. As I have said, No
registry changes were made by me. First documented by other MVP's (Frank
McPherson and is in his book "Everything you always wanted to do with
your
iPaq PDA" PSS came from Paul Hayes, Technical Lead-PSS WA MPS
Desktop.
It
also runs on my Windows 98SE with OE 6.0.2800 and Outlook 2002.
Screen
Print for you included. Sorry but you have some incorrect information on
this one.


--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA


Post the link.
No such option in any released version of Outlook or OE.
SP2 is another matter. It is certainly an easy feature to add with a
simple
registry change.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

Well I'll ask around but this is the first report like this I've seen. On
the other hand, I've seen over a thousand posts from people trying to enable
this very feature when they no longer have it (and got used to it in IMO
mode).
My best guess is that the installation routine from some OEM versions of
standalone Outlook set the DWORD. Once it's set, it will remain even if you
install the full retail version of Office because the full retail version no
longer touches that key.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Russ,
In looking at my Registry.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services
There are multiple DWORD entrys, Some sent to 0,1,4,276 (cannot find a way
to copy this to show you)

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\WAB4
On the Dword, I have:
FirstRun =1
OlkContactRefresh =0
OlkFolderRefresh=0
UseOutlook=1
At the top of these, I have "ab"(Default) Type=REG_SZ Value not set.

And under WAB4 are two folders, LastFind (Data=Contacts) and Wab File Name
(Data=C:\Documents and Settings\.....Sony.wab)

So It looks like to answer your question, yes the DWORD is set to 1, but not
by me as I am not knowable enough in using the Register to change it. Did
that once in Win98SE and had all kinds of problems, so have never touched it
again.

I am not trying to argue with you as I am sure you know far more about
Outlook then I, just stating what mine does. How it got that way is a
mystery to me. Since both of my PC's have ActiveSync, hard to tell if that
had any changes on the system, but will remove it on my non-production unit
and try it out with Outlook 2003 as that one I have not upgraded to 2003 and
still running 2002 (Outlook version)
--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA

I'm well aware of the option. I simply know that it has not existed since
Microsoft abandoned IMO mode. Why do none of the rest of have this option?
Documented here:
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm

Check your registry. I bet you've got the DWORD and its set to 1.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

The feature has been well documented in the Windows CE and Pocket PC groups
since 1999 since the PDA's only work with Outlook. As I have said, No
registry changes were made by me. First documented by other MVP's (Frank
McPherson and is in his book "Everything you always wanted to do with
your
iPaq PDA" PSS came from Paul Hayes, Technical Lead-PSS WA MPS Desktop.
It
also runs on my Windows 98SE with OE 6.0.2800 and Outlook 2002. Screen
Print for you included. Sorry but you have some incorrect information on
this one.


--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA


Post the link.
No such option in any released version of Outlook or OE.
SP2 is another matter. It is certainly an easy feature to add with a
simple
registry change.

 

[Tedd Riggs]

I get the same question all the time also in the Windows CE and Pocket PC
groups and it seems that about half the people have it. I have a feeling it
was included on the Compaq Version of Outlook as that is when I first saw
it, but I believe that was way back in Outlook 97 days. I know that I looked
all over the help and readme files on how to turn this feature on, but never
found any mention of it at all. If I ever can find the source of it, I will
let you know as its a mystery to me !

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

Did all of your Outlook installations begin as OEM versions?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I get the same question all the time also in the Windows CE and Pocket PC
groups and it seems that about half the people have it. I have a feeling it
was included on the Compaq Version of Outlook as that is when I first saw
it, but I believe that was way back in Outlook 97 days. I know that I looked
all over the help and readme files on how to turn this feature on, but never
found any mention of it at all. If I ever can find the source of it, I will
let you know as its a mystery to me !

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA

 

[Tedd Riggs]

No, the first one (97) was the regular Windows Version, then got a PDA and I
think it had Outlook 2000 on it, but it did not identify it as a OEM version
as it was a Microsoft Windows CE Disk that had Outlook on it. After that my
2002 Outlook was on the HP install disk and current version is from Full
version of Office 2003. So its been a weird mixture of them.

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA

Did all of your Outlook installations begin as OEM versions?

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

But if your version of Outlook 2000 was IMO and you've only upgraded since
then without creating a new profile, you would still have sharing enabled.
No clean installation of Outlook 2002 and 2003 has ever done this, nor can
they.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

No, the first one (97) was the regular Windows Version, then got a PDA and I
think it had Outlook 2000 on it, but it did not identify it as a OEM version
as it was a Microsoft Windows CE Disk that had Outlook on it. After that my
2002 Outlook was on the HP install disk and current version is from Full
version of Office 2003. So its been a weird mixture of them.

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA

Did all of your Outlook installations begin as OEM versions?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I get the same question all the time also in the Windows CE and Pocket PC
groups and it seems that about half the people have it. I have a

feeling
it

was included on the Compaq Version of Outlook as that is when I first saw
it, but I believe that was way back in Outlook 97 days. I know that I looked
all over the help and readme files on how to turn this feature on, but never
found any mention of it at all. If I ever can find the source of it, I will
let you know as its a mystery to me !

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA


Well I'll ask around but this is the first report like this I've

seen.
On

the other hand, I've seen over a thousand posts from people trying to
enable
this very feature when they no longer have it (and got used to it in
IMO
mode).
My best guess is that the installation routine from some OEM versions
of
standalone Outlook set the DWORD. Once it's set, it will remain even if
you
install the full retail version of Office because the full retail version
no
longer touches that key.

 

[Tedd Riggs]

That must be it then as none on this PC was a clean install, all were
upgrades. Checked my Windows Server 2003 (yet another newer version of OE/IE
on that) and that has a clean Outlook 2003 and activesync and that one does
not have the sharing address function like this one.

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA

But if your version of Outlook 2000 was IMO and you've only upgraded since
then without creating a new profile, you would still have sharing enabled.
No clean installation of Outlook 2002 and 2003 has ever done this, nor can
they.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

No, the first one (97) was the regular Windows Version, then got a PDA
and I
think it had Outlook 2000 on it, but it did not identify it as a OEM version
as it was a Microsoft Windows CE Disk that had Outlook on it. After that my
2002 Outlook was on the HP install disk and current version is from Full
version of Office 2003. So its been a weird mixture of them.

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA

Did all of your Outlook installations begin as OEM versions?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I get the same question all the time also in the Windows CE and Pocket PC
groups and it seems that about half the people have it. I have a feeling
it
was included on the Compaq Version of Outlook as that is when I first saw
it, but I believe that was way back in Outlook 97 days. I know that I
looked
all over the help and readme files on how to turn this feature on, but
never
found any mention of it at all. If I ever can find the source of it, I
will
let you know as its a mystery to me !

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA


Well I'll ask around but this is the first report like this I've seen.
On
the other hand, I've seen over a thousand posts from people trying
to
enable
this very feature when they no longer have it (and got used to it in
IMO
mode).
My best guess is that the installation routine from some OEM
versions
of
standalone Outlook set the DWORD. Once it's set, it will remain even if
you
install the full retail version of Office because the full retail
version
no
longer touches that key.

 

[Tedd Riggs]

Well sorry to have you go thru all that, but I thank you for the effort !
It sure answers a question I have had for a long time about my "hidden
option"
Tedd

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA

That's the only explanation I can think of. I've polled all the MVP's.
None
has seen this happen with Outlook 2002/3 in any scenario but upgrades from
IMO.

That must be it then as none on this PC was a clean install, all were
upgrades. Checked my Windows Server 2003 (yet another newer version of
OE/IE on that) and that has a clean Outlook 2003 and activesync and that
one does not have the sharing address function like this one.

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA

But if your version of Outlook 2000 was IMO and you've only upgraded
since
then without creating a new profile, you would still have sharing
enabled.
No clean installation of Outlook 2002 and 2003 has ever done this, nor
can
they.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

No, the first one (97) was the regular Windows Version, then got a PDA
and I
think it had Outlook 2000 on it, but it did not identify it as a OEM version
as it was a Microsoft Windows CE Disk that had Outlook on it. After that my
2002 Outlook was on the HP install disk and current version is from Full
version of Office 2003. So its been a weird mixture of them.

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA


Did all of your Outlook installations begin as OEM versions?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I get the same question all the time also in the Windows CE and
Pocket PC
groups and it seems that about half the people have it. I have a feeling
it
was included on the Compaq Version of Outlook as that is when I first saw
it, but I believe that was way back in Outlook 97 days. I know that I
looked
all over the help and readme files on how to turn this feature on,
but
never
found any mention of it at all. If I ever can find the source of it,
I
will
let you know as its a mystery to me !

--
Tedd Riggs
PDA Square Content Developer
www.pdasquare.com
Redmond, WA


Well I'll ask around but this is the first report like this I've seen.
On
the other hand, I've seen over a thousand posts from people trying
to
enable
this very feature when they no longer have it (and got used to it
in
IMO
mode).
My best guess is that the installation routine from some OEM
versions
of
standalone Outlook set the DWORD. Once it's set, it will remain
even if
you
install the full retail version of Office because the full retail
version
no
longer touches that key.

 

[Brian Tillman]

I get the same question all the time also in the Windows CE and
Pocket PC groups and it seems that about half the people have it. I
have a feeling it was included on the Compaq Version of Outlook as
that is when I first saw it, but I believe that was way back in
Outlook 97 days. I know that I looked all over the help and readme
files on how to turn this feature on, but never found any mention of
it at all. If I ever can find the source of it, I will let you know
as its a mystery to me !

What puzzles me is that you have the option in the WAB's Tools menu. I
wouldn't think the presence of the DWORD would allow the display of the
option. I have OL2002 at home from buying an iPaq and I'll see if the
option exists there.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

There is a difference between the option created by manually adding the
DWORD yourself to the registry and the way an IMO install configures
sharing. With the latter, you won't see Outlook showing up in TM either.