SESSION3_INITIALIZATION_FAILED

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George Hester

During setup of Windows XP on a 1.6 GB harddrive formatted FAT16 on a PII dual processor IDE setup. Any ideas what is causing this:

SESSION3_INITIALIZATION_FAILED

STOP:0x0000006F (0xC0000020,0x00000000,0x00000000,0x00000000)
 
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Guest

not sure if it will be the cause of your problem, but I would never attempt
to install xp on such a small drive I would consider 4 gb as an absolute
minimum
 
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Peter Foldes

This error usually means hardware failure. Most probably your HD.

(1) First 16 bit is a nono
(2) XP needs at least 5GB on a hard drive.

Obviously your Hard Drive is not capable to handle XP in it's present state. Invest in a new Hard Drive . they are not so expensive today.

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Peter

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During setup of Windows XP on a 1.6 GB harddrive formatted FAT16 on a PII dual processor IDE setup. Any ideas what is causing this:

SESSION3_INITIALIZATION_FAILED

STOP:0x0000006F (0xC0000020,0x00000000,0x00000000,0x00000000)
 
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HeyBub

Peter said:
This error usually means hardware failure. Most probably your HD.

(1) First 16 bit is a nono
(2) XP needs at least 5GB on a hard drive.

Obviously your Hard Drive is not capable to handle XP in it's present
state. Invest in a new Hard Drive . they are not so expensive today.

80Gig = $20.00 at Fry's until tomorrow. Alternative: Bottom of CrackerJack
box.
 
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George Hester

Hardware failure. Ok thanks. Min for XP is 5GB? Could you please provide a link at Microsoft which discusses this minimum? Thanks.

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George Hester
_______________________________
This error usually means hardware failure. Most probably your HD.

(1) First 16 bit is a nono
(2) XP needs at least 5GB on a hard drive.

Obviously your Hard Drive is not capable to handle XP in it's present state. Invest in a new Hard Drive . they are not so expensive today.

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

During setup of Windows XP on a 1.6 GB harddrive formatted FAT16 on a PII dual processor IDE setup. Any ideas what is causing this:

SESSION3_INITIALIZATION_FAILED

STOP:0x0000006F (0xC0000020,0x00000000,0x00000000,0x00000000)
 
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Malke

George said:
Hardware failure. Ok thanks. Min for XP is 5GB? Could you please
provide a link at Microsoft which discusses this minimum? Thanks.
Here's what MS says are the minimum requirements (I included the link to
the page where I got this below):

PC with 300 megahertz (MHz) or higher processor clock speed recommended;
233-MHz minimum required;* Intel Pentium/Celeron family, AMD
K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible processor recommended

128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum
supported; may limit performance and some features)

1.5 gigabyte (GB) of available hard disk space.*

Super VGA (800 × 600) or higher resolution video adapter and monitor

CD-ROM or DVD drive
Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device

* Actual requirements will vary based on your system configuration and
the applications and features you choose to install. Additional
available hard-disk space may be required if you are installing over a
network.

Here's the link

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/upgrading/sysreqs.mspx

Now, all that said, I can tell you from my many years doing professional
computer repair/tech support that a machine with the hardware as
described above will either not run XP at all or run it horribly. It is
a rule of thumb that whatever a company tells you are the minimum
system requirements - ignore them and look at the "recommended" system
requirements. Unfortunately, MS doesn't list "recommended" system
requirements on that page.

My very rough guideline is if the machine is successfully running
Win9x/ME and is less than a PIII 600 (and yes, I know people have run
XP on slower machines - I said this is *my* guideline/opinion) then I
don't suggest upgrading to XP. I also don't suggest running XP with
less than 256MB of RAM; 512MB is better. I wouldn't install XP on a box
that had a 6GB hard drive, either. That is not only because of the
size, but because of the age of the drive.

IMO, there is no reason to take a nicely performing computer running
Win9x/ME and force it to run an operating system for which it was never
designed. The results will not be satisfactory and your silicon-based
life form will be sad.

Malke
 
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Malke

Malke said:
Here's what MS says are the minimum requirements (I included the link
to the page where I got this below):

PC with 300 megahertz (MHz) or higher processor clock speed
recommended; 233-MHz minimum required;* Intel Pentium/Celeron family,
AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible processor recommended

Sorry for the second post, but I wanted you to know that those
requirements I cited are for a base install of XP *without* any service
packs. Here is a link showing the hard drive space needed for XP *with*
Service Pack 2:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;837783

I wouldn't put XP on a 6GB hard drive.

Malke
 
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George Hester

Malke that depends on how I intend to use it. This machine will not be used
at all. It will be on and share its drives. That's it. What I have is
even overkill for that.
 
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Malke

George said:
Malke that depends on how I intend to use it. This machine will not
be used
at all. It will be on and share its drives. That's it. What I have
is even overkill for that.

That's all well and good, but the error you are getting indicates you
may have a hardware failure. Since you have such an old, slow, small
hard drive it was a reasonable guess that the drive might be failing.
Here are general hardware t-shooting steps; not all of them might apply
to you. Other than that, I can't think of anything else for you to try
except to start swapping out hardware.

1) Open the computer and run it open, cleaning out all dust bunnies and
observing all fans (overheating will cause system freezing). Obviously
you can't do this with a laptop, but you can hear if the fan is running
and feel if the laptop is getting too hot.

2) Test the RAM - I like Memtest86+ from www.memtest.org. Obviously, you
have to get the program from a working machine. You will either
download the precompiled Windows binary to make a bootable floppy or
the .iso to make a bootable cd. If you want to use the latter, you'll
need to have third-party burning software on the machine where you
download the file - XP's built-in burning capability won't do the job.
In either case, boot with the media you made. The test will run
immediately. Let the test run for an extended period of time - unless
errors are seen immediately. If you get any errors, replace the RAM.

3) Test the hard drive with a diagnostic utility from the mftr. Usually
you will download the file and make a bootable floppy with it. Boot
with the media and do a thorough test. If the drive has physical
errors, replace it.

4) The power supply may be going bad or be inadequate for the devices
you have in the system. The adequacy issue doesn't really apply to a
laptop, although of course the power
supply can be faulty.

5) Test the motherboard with something like TuffTest from
www.tufftest.com. Sometimes this is useful, and sometimes it isn't.

Testing hardware failures often involves swapping out suspected parts
with known-good parts. If you can't do the testing yourself and/or are
uncomfortable opening your computer, take the machine to a professional
computer repair shop (not your local equivalent of BigStoreUSA).

Malke
 
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George Hester

Hi Malke. Yes I could do all that or go buy another bigger harddrive which
is what I did. That issue is over. The 1.6 GB harddrive is really of no
concern to me. I might use it for a coffee cup holder. But here is
something you may be able to help me with.

I got everything going Windows XP on a dual PII machine with 9GB WD Cavier
harddrive; two UW SCSI 9GB harddrives; a floppy drive and CD-ROM. I just
tried to add two more IDE harddrives. Didn't work. I turned the machine on
and the 250W Power Supply sounded like grating metal. So now I need to know
what you think would be a minimum Watage for a Power Supply as I described
the setup.
 
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Malke

George said:
Hi Malke. Yes I could do all that or go buy another bigger harddrive
which
is what I did. That issue is over. The 1.6 GB harddrive is really of
no
concern to me. I might use it for a coffee cup holder. But here is
something you may be able to help me with.

I got everything going Windows XP on a dual PII machine with 9GB WD
Cavier
harddrive; two UW SCSI 9GB harddrives; a floppy drive and CD-ROM. I
just
tried to add two more IDE harddrives. Didn't work. I turned the
machine on
and the 250W Power Supply sounded like grating metal. So now I need
to know what you think would be a minimum Watage for a Power Supply as
I described the setup.


A quick Google for "computer wattage usage" produced this useful link:

http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,109379,pg,2,00.asp

Malke
 
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Malke

George said:
That is what they think. I was asking you. Thanks though.

Yes, but I don't have the time to sit down and figure out what wattage
your computer needs. If you want to do this, then *you* sit down and
figure it out. That's why I gave you the link to a site I thought had
accurate information - so you could do it yourself.

Malke
 

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