Search Form Help Needed

[Guest]

I am unable to get a search form working on a web site. I'm using FP 2002, I
published using HTTP, and nothing seems to work (I've searched the forums
here, but I don't think my case is covered). My host (Godaddy) swears the
problem is with my coding or otherwise on my end. The page is:
http://bradsclassictrucks.com/search.htm. The result of using the form always
results in a 404 error and ends at this address:
http://bradsclassictrucks.com/_derived/nortbots.htm

I've found the posts here (by Gail) which say:
nortbots.htm only appears in four cases:
1) You are testing on a disc-based website, including a FrontPage
disc-based web that is being browsed through a web-server.
2) You are testing on a website that does not have server extensions
installed or running
3) The site (or form page) was FTPed from a disc-based web, or
published using a FTP address for the destination. Publish must be to
a URL of the form http://example.com
4) There is a bug associated with FrontPage98 which causes this
problem.

OK, I'm using the published web as hosted by Godaddy via Internet Explorer,
so #1 isn't the problem. I published using http, so #3 is out. I'm using FP
2002, so #4 isn't the problem.

To try to rule out # 2, I've done this:

I erased search.htm off the host-based website. I removed the account's FP
extensions, and then later re-installed them. (I checked my account to make
sure the changes were both made.) I removed and then put a new FP search
form component in my disc-based/local version of the web, and recalculated
hyperlinks. I then published the site again using the "overwrite all files"
option -- and I'm getting the same results. Godaddy tech support swears it's
on my end. Could someone PLEASE (sorry about the shouting, but I'm pulling my
newbie hair out)help me figure this out?! What could or should I do? Thanks
for any help!

 

[Ronx]

Open the live web and remove the search form there, save and close the
page, recalculate hyperlinks, then open the page and reinsert the form.

FYI - your server appears to be Windows 2003, and the search form is set to
use the WAIS search (though that may be a symptom of the fault). This will
not work on Windows 2003.
Ask GoDaddy if an Index Service catalogue has been created for your site -
this will be needed if the search is to work at all.
After you re-insert the form the code view of the search webbot should have
b-useindexserver="1", not the b-useindexserver="0" as at present. - and
there should not be any sign of _derived\nortbots.htm in the code,
anywhere.

It does look as if the search page was FTPed to the server; check the actual
URL you are publishing to - it is possible to publish to an FTP address even
if extensions are running on the site.

 

[Guest]

Ronx,

Thank you for the info, but I'm still stuck. I carefully followed your
steps, and the result is that I'm now getting "[FrontPage Search Component]"
in text where the search form should be. Can something else be wrong?

Also, I have written Godaddy once more to inquire if an "Index Service
catalogue" has been created for my account. No answer yet, is there any way I
can determine this on my end?

Also, I must not understand what you meant about the code view of the web
bot? I went to the HTML view of the search page (after I inserted the new
search form), and can't find any reference to "useindexserver" or "nortbots"
anywhere on it.

 

[Ronx]

Inline
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Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

Ronx,

Thank you for the info, but I'm still stuck. I carefully followed your
steps, and the result is that I'm now getting "[FrontPage Search Component]"
in text where the search form should be. Can something else be wrong?

This is an indication that either the extensions are not correctly
installed, or (more likely) there is no catalogue for the site. GoDaddy
will have to check this.

Also, I have written Godaddy once more to inquire if an "Index Service
catalogue" has been created for my account. No answer yet, is there any way I
can determine this on my end?

See above

Also, I must not understand what you meant about the code view of the web
bot? I went to the HTML view of the search page (after I inserted the new
search form), and can't find any reference to "useindexserver" or "nortbots"
anywhere on it.

Code view in FP2003 is the same as HTML view in other versions.
No reference to norbots is good. It should not be there on a server based
web with extensions.

There is usually a reference to useindexserver This will be =0 if the WAIS
search is to be used, (does not work on Windows 2003), or =1 if Index
Servive is available. When the [FrontPage Component Error] is fixed, this
attribute should appear.