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Please bear with me as I attempt to describe
the SYMPTOMS & the SITUATION:
Yesterday, during a session of
test-driving some shareware & freeware
(i.e. Install/UN-install/RE-Install/etc],
I believe that some critical elements of my
Windows XP Home SP2 may have been
damaged or corrupted.
The primary sympotom is that
any attempt to execute an option-Button
by Clicking the any Button inside an opened Window
or within a windows-popup Dialog-Box
causes an immediate Lockup of the KB, the Mouse & the OS-system.
This is most troublesome because
this occurs inside any popup Dialog-Box
that contains options-buttons such as
[Yes] [No] [Cancel] [Proceed?]
which are crucial to conducting simple system-operations !
Moreover, the alternate pathway of executing option-selection inputs
by navigating with the ArrowCursor-keys is crippled
because presssing the Enter-key to execute
the selected option-Button also causes a system-freezeup.
Therefore, I cannot access a RestorePoint
or any backup DriveImage ! (more details to follow)
However, the Mouse functions NORMALLY
when applying Mouse-clicks
--- to any Icons or objects that are on the Desktop,
--- to any Menu-item or sub-Menu-option
--- to any [+] plus/expand-symbol of the Directory-Tree-pane
BUT then clicking on a Folder-icon on the Tree
to view the Folder-contents will cause a lockup.
This inability to view Folder-contents means
I cannot examine any file-attributes or file-dates,
and cannot execute any commands
such a Copy, Paste, Delete to a selected Folder or File.
Although I haven't checked every possibility,
I would SUMMARIZE by saying: Generally,
the Mouse & Keyboard is able to execute "systemic-commands",
but any attempt to execute a user-selected Button-option
causes the system to freeze.
This is Mouse-disablement is a particularly critical
because it prevents me from performing
an XP-System Restore Point:
--- after the clicking on my selected RestorePoint,
a [Yes]-button must be clicked to proceed.
=== the Click-action or pressinf the Enter-key
causes an immediate lockup!
Similarly, this Mouse-disablement prevents me from
using PowerQuest Drive Image 7.0
to restore my C:drive to an earlier-state
because a Button-click is required to initiate the operation.
I ran a virus-scan of all my HDD-devices
using AVG (AntiVirus) 7 Free Edition,
and No viruses were found,
BUT there were 4 AVG Alerts
that warned of changes to my system-areas:
:::verbatim-quote:::
Boot sector of disc C: "changed"
C:\WINDOWS\system32\user32.dll "changed"
C:\WINDOWS\system32\\shell32.dll "changed"
C:\WINDOWS\system32\\ntoskrnl.exe "changed"
I strongly suspect that these reported 'changes"
are related to my session of test-driving
various shareware/freeware applets.
During one of the earliest occurences
of these input system lockups
I found that my Desktop-Appearance
had somehow been altered from my personalized-version
of the Windows CLASSIC THEME.
The machine had spontaneously
changed to the (system-default) Windows XP THEME,
and while retaining only a few of my personalizations.
And although this was just a trivial matter...
perhaps this offers some clue to the alterations or corruption
that has occured to my OS-system, .INI configurations, or Registry?
HARDWARE CHECK:
1. I've inspected the >Hardware >DeviceManager,
and have found DeviceStatus of both
the Keyboard & Mice and all other listed Devices are
reported as "working properly."
2. I checked all the config-settings of
my Logitech Wireless KB & Mouse,
and everything also checks out OK..
I SUSPECT that during the course of my shareware
Install / Uninstall / Reinstall session,
there was some sort of file-corruption
has occured to some critical system-files.
(i.e. such as the C:\WINDOWS\system32\\ntoskrnl.exe warning)
I believe the most direct solution would be
to regain access to perform a simple DriveImage restore.
And tt would seem to be a fairly simple matter
to bootup into the DriveImage Rescue-diskettes...
(based pm Dr.Caldera DOS)
I've searched my drawers for those Rescue-diskettes,
BUT NOOOooo...
I've only been able to find the RescueDiskettes for the
PREVIOUS version PQ DriveImage 2002 !!!
(and I've tried booting into this older set of Rescue-diskettes
but the #2 application-diskette appears to
search for a specific file on Drive 1
that does not exist on the HDD.)
During the initial-install of PQ DriveImage v7.0.
I apparently POSTPONED the creation
of those critical v7.0 RescueDiskettes...
and I guess I'm now paying the price for that meathead manuever.
=====so this seems to be a Dead-End for now...
I have looked into my book "Windows XP Inside Out" 2nd Ed."
to learn that booting into [F8] Safe Mode
(@ 640x480 resolution with minimal generic drivers, etc.)
might enable me to access & execute a RestorePoint
BUT when I attempt to enter [F8] Safe Mode,
a listing of "\Windows\system32\drivers\* .SYS" drivers
scrolls up across the screen
----- and THEN proceeds into a normal bootup into Windows XP
(with my usueal 1024x768 res.olution & my usual Startup-Prog.options)
Similarly, when I attempt to boot into
[F8] Safe Mode with Command Prompt,
the same screenful of "\system32\drivers\*.SYS" scrolls up,
and THEN the machine Loops-back
to the previous [F8] Safe Mode option-menu screen.
===== [F8] Safe Mode with Command Prompt is disabled/unavailable.
Using the "Last Known Good Configuration" option
has no effect and does not correct any of my machine's ills.
So it seems that my machine cannot access
ANY form of [F8] Safe Mode bootup.
(Could this be related to the warning of
"change" to the Boot sector of disc C: ???)
I read further in the book to learn that WMI scripts
can selectively execute a Restore Point,
and the book refers to the following webpage & webpage-text:
=======================================
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/productdoc/scriptsamples.mspx
:::quote:::
" The System Restore parameters are configurable remotely or locally
by using a Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI) script.
A WMI script can also be used to create restore points, list them,
select a restore point to restore to,
and view the status of a restore operation. "
:::quote:::
"Scriptingexamples.doc contains functions and parameter descriptions,
along with script samples, which are provided as a guide to
administrators who need remote access to the System Restore features
and settings.")
=======================================
I've downloaded the scriptsamples.DOC from the link on that webpage,
but quite honestly have no freakin' idea
how to implement a WMI script
or how to adapt & utilize the script-samples to address my situation.
reading further in the book (Windows XP Inside Out" 2nd Ed.)
I learned that the the last-ditch option is to use the
Recovery Console by booting-up into the Windows XP CD-disk.
The book goes on to describe the range of command-operations
that can be performed from the Recovery Console, including:
- [ BOOTCFG/REBUIILD] command to replace a faulty Boot.ini
- ( COPY ] command to manually restore damaged
Ntdlr, Ntoskrnl.exe, Ntdetect.com, and driver-files.
HOWEVER, I recognize that I should NOT pursue this pathway
1. UNTIL I can diagnose the source/Cause of my predicament and
2. UNLESS I am able to navigate, locate & access the faulty
system-files or boot-areas. (using a plain DOS-style command-line
or somehow avoiding the faulty Windows GUI.)
My questions:
1. Does anyone RECOGNIZE these symptoms & behaviors?
2. Can anyone DIAGNOSE which of thecritical system-files
or system-areas might have been corrupted?
3. Would the RECOVER PANEL enable me to correct the situation?
4. Would a REPAIR INSTALL be feasible or recommended
given the fact that this inability to "execute" any operations
Move, Copy or Backup any of my Data-files
or to prepare for such a major-operation to my boot-disk?
(i.e. I'm presuming that booting into the WinXP Setup-disc
bypasses the machine's cripple XP-OS & input-system)
Please, PLEASE, P-L-E-A-S-E
1. I desperately need an informed & expert diagnosis of the
of critical system-files that might be causing my crippled
input-system,
2. I'm seeking any recommendations whether the
RecoveryPanel or a RepairInstall might repair by OS-system.
And if so, which of these methods or which sequence of
both methods should be taken.
Thanks to all for reading this message
& Much gratitude to any who can respond.
===============================================
===============================================
-------------------------------------------------------
Please bear with me as I attempt to describe
the SYMPTOMS & the SITUATION:
Yesterday, during a session of
test-driving some shareware & freeware
(i.e. Install/UN-install/RE-Install/etc],
I believe that some critical elements of my
Windows XP Home SP2 may have been
damaged or corrupted.
The primary sympotom is that
any attempt to execute an option-Button
by Clicking the any Button inside an opened Window
or within a windows-popup Dialog-Box
causes an immediate Lockup of the KB, the Mouse & the OS-system.
This is most troublesome because
this occurs inside any popup Dialog-Box
that contains options-buttons such as
[Yes] [No] [Cancel] [Proceed?]
which are crucial to conducting simple system-operations !
Moreover, the alternate pathway of executing option-selection inputs
by navigating with the ArrowCursor-keys is crippled
because presssing the Enter-key to execute
the selected option-Button also causes a system-freezeup.
Therefore, I cannot access a RestorePoint
or any backup DriveImage ! (more details to follow)
However, the Mouse functions NORMALLY
when applying Mouse-clicks
--- to any Icons or objects that are on the Desktop,
--- to any Menu-item or sub-Menu-option
--- to any [+] plus/expand-symbol of the Directory-Tree-pane
BUT then clicking on a Folder-icon on the Tree
to view the Folder-contents will cause a lockup.
This inability to view Folder-contents means
I cannot examine any file-attributes or file-dates,
and cannot execute any commands
such a Copy, Paste, Delete to a selected Folder or File.
Although I haven't checked every possibility,
I would SUMMARIZE by saying: Generally,
the Mouse & Keyboard is able to execute "systemic-commands",
but any attempt to execute a user-selected Button-option
causes the system to freeze.
This is Mouse-disablement is a particularly critical
because it prevents me from performing
an XP-System Restore Point:
--- after the clicking on my selected RestorePoint,
a [Yes]-button must be clicked to proceed.
=== the Click-action or pressinf the Enter-key
causes an immediate lockup!
Similarly, this Mouse-disablement prevents me from
using PowerQuest Drive Image 7.0
to restore my C:drive to an earlier-state
because a Button-click is required to initiate the operation.
I ran a virus-scan of all my HDD-devices
using AVG (AntiVirus) 7 Free Edition,
and No viruses were found,
BUT there were 4 AVG Alerts
that warned of changes to my system-areas:
:::verbatim-quote:::
Boot sector of disc C: "changed"
C:\WINDOWS\system32\user32.dll "changed"
C:\WINDOWS\system32\\shell32.dll "changed"
C:\WINDOWS\system32\\ntoskrnl.exe "changed"
I strongly suspect that these reported 'changes"
are related to my session of test-driving
various shareware/freeware applets.
During one of the earliest occurences
of these input system lockups
I found that my Desktop-Appearance
had somehow been altered from my personalized-version
of the Windows CLASSIC THEME.
The machine had spontaneously
changed to the (system-default) Windows XP THEME,
and while retaining only a few of my personalizations.
And although this was just a trivial matter...
perhaps this offers some clue to the alterations or corruption
that has occured to my OS-system, .INI configurations, or Registry?
HARDWARE CHECK:
1. I've inspected the >Hardware >DeviceManager,
and have found DeviceStatus of both
the Keyboard & Mice and all other listed Devices are
reported as "working properly."
2. I checked all the config-settings of
my Logitech Wireless KB & Mouse,
and everything also checks out OK..
I SUSPECT that during the course of my shareware
Install / Uninstall / Reinstall session,
there was some sort of file-corruption
has occured to some critical system-files.
(i.e. such as the C:\WINDOWS\system32\\ntoskrnl.exe warning)
I believe the most direct solution would be
to regain access to perform a simple DriveImage restore.
And tt would seem to be a fairly simple matter
to bootup into the DriveImage Rescue-diskettes...
(based pm Dr.Caldera DOS)
I've searched my drawers for those Rescue-diskettes,
BUT NOOOooo...
I've only been able to find the RescueDiskettes for the
PREVIOUS version PQ DriveImage 2002 !!!
(and I've tried booting into this older set of Rescue-diskettes
but the #2 application-diskette appears to
search for a specific file on Drive 1
that does not exist on the HDD.)
During the initial-install of PQ DriveImage v7.0.
I apparently POSTPONED the creation
of those critical v7.0 RescueDiskettes...
and I guess I'm now paying the price for that meathead manuever.
=====so this seems to be a Dead-End for now...
I have looked into my book "Windows XP Inside Out" 2nd Ed."
to learn that booting into [F8] Safe Mode
(@ 640x480 resolution with minimal generic drivers, etc.)
might enable me to access & execute a RestorePoint
BUT when I attempt to enter [F8] Safe Mode,
a listing of "\Windows\system32\drivers\* .SYS" drivers
scrolls up across the screen
----- and THEN proceeds into a normal bootup into Windows XP
(with my usueal 1024x768 res.olution & my usual Startup-Prog.options)
Similarly, when I attempt to boot into
[F8] Safe Mode with Command Prompt,
the same screenful of "\system32\drivers\*.SYS" scrolls up,
and THEN the machine Loops-back
to the previous [F8] Safe Mode option-menu screen.
===== [F8] Safe Mode with Command Prompt is disabled/unavailable.
Using the "Last Known Good Configuration" option
has no effect and does not correct any of my machine's ills.
So it seems that my machine cannot access
ANY form of [F8] Safe Mode bootup.
(Could this be related to the warning of
"change" to the Boot sector of disc C: ???)
I read further in the book to learn that WMI scripts
can selectively execute a Restore Point,
and the book refers to the following webpage & webpage-text:
=======================================
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/productdoc/scriptsamples.mspx
:::quote:::
" The System Restore parameters are configurable remotely or locally
by using a Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI) script.
A WMI script can also be used to create restore points, list them,
select a restore point to restore to,
and view the status of a restore operation. "
:::quote:::
"Scriptingexamples.doc contains functions and parameter descriptions,
along with script samples, which are provided as a guide to
administrators who need remote access to the System Restore features
and settings.")
=======================================
I've downloaded the scriptsamples.DOC from the link on that webpage,
but quite honestly have no freakin' idea
how to implement a WMI script
or how to adapt & utilize the script-samples to address my situation.
reading further in the book (Windows XP Inside Out" 2nd Ed.)
I learned that the the last-ditch option is to use the
Recovery Console by booting-up into the Windows XP CD-disk.
The book goes on to describe the range of command-operations
that can be performed from the Recovery Console, including:
- [ BOOTCFG/REBUIILD] command to replace a faulty Boot.ini
- ( COPY ] command to manually restore damaged
Ntdlr, Ntoskrnl.exe, Ntdetect.com, and driver-files.
HOWEVER, I recognize that I should NOT pursue this pathway
1. UNTIL I can diagnose the source/Cause of my predicament and
2. UNLESS I am able to navigate, locate & access the faulty
system-files or boot-areas. (using a plain DOS-style command-line
or somehow avoiding the faulty Windows GUI.)
My questions:
1. Does anyone RECOGNIZE these symptoms & behaviors?
2. Can anyone DIAGNOSE which of thecritical system-files
or system-areas might have been corrupted?
3. Would the RECOVER PANEL enable me to correct the situation?
4. Would a REPAIR INSTALL be feasible or recommended
given the fact that this inability to "execute" any operations
Move, Copy or Backup any of my Data-files
or to prepare for such a major-operation to my boot-disk?
(i.e. I'm presuming that booting into the WinXP Setup-disc
bypasses the machine's cripple XP-OS & input-system)
Please, PLEASE, P-L-E-A-S-E
1. I desperately need an informed & expert diagnosis of the
of critical system-files that might be causing my crippled
input-system,
2. I'm seeking any recommendations whether the
RecoveryPanel or a RepairInstall might repair by OS-system.
And if so, which of these methods or which sequence of
both methods should be taken.
Thanks to all for reading this message
& Much gratitude to any who can respond.
===============================================
===============================================