Running DOS Games under Vista

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RobinDiscus!

NO! I installed VPC07 on my Home Premium, and said "You are not running a
suitable OS." This did not happen when installing VPC07 with Win2K on my old
XP.
 
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qhard

I have some information about it from Czech Republick. Microsoft implemented
into Windows Vista new drivers for graphic cards that is not compatible with
any MS-DOS application and taht is not compatible with any 3Dfx OpenGL
application. I wait that Microsoft improve it, because it is not possible
install old graphic drivers from Windows XP or older and DosBOX it is not a
good idea. DosBOX is not treatment from Microsoft and it slow down your
computer very drastically.
 
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Andy [YaYa]

qhard said:
I have some information about it from Czech Republick. Microsoft
implemented
into Windows Vista new drivers for graphic cards that is not compatible
with
any MS-DOS application and taht is not compatible with any 3Dfx OpenGL
application. I wait that Microsoft improve it, because it is not possible
install old graphic drivers from Windows XP or older and DosBOX it is not
a
good idea. DosBOX is not treatment from Microsoft and it slow down your
computer very drastically.

No S*it Sherlock, DOSBox is an EMULATOR, it emulates old hardware using new
hardware combined with complex software routines. Yes, it runs slow, unless
you have a Quad Core with a lot of CPU power, it will run slower than you'd
expect it too.

BUT, it is a PROGRAM, the rest of your system runs normally, and when you
quit the program, like all other programs your system (should) return to
normal.

Old DOS Games + New Operating Systems/New Hardware = Sadness.

http://dosbox.sourceforge.net

Read the information there. A lot of DOS games run great under DOSBox, some
do not. They actually have a list of which games work on their site
somewhere. If you're comfortable working with DOS programs, then DOSBox
should be easy for you to setup and get running. If you're not used to
editing text files read their tutorials for help.

There are other ways to get DOS games to work, Virtual PC 2007 isn't too bad
if you don't plan to run heavy 3D games, but the sound emulation isn't that
great. DOSBox actually emulates a good ole SB16 and GUS. You'll get better
results with DOSBox.

Respond here if you need help, but if you search around this newsgroup for
DOSBox posts, or search Google you'll find more than enough information to
get your old games running.

Vista doesn't use new drivers, they simply moved the drivers from Kernal
protected ram to User normal ram. Results are you don't have to reboot if
your video driver crashes, but there are some compatibility issues with
older XP drivers. Vista and XP never really ran DOS titles very well, mainly
because PCs no longer use ISA audio cards and a lot of older routines were
simply removed from Windows and todays PC hardware.

Yes, keeping a fully functional Pentium with ISA versions of the Sound
Blaster 16 or Gravis UltraSound is THE best way to ensure your old games
keep working. Hard part is finding hardware that still works. I highly
recommend checking sites like Craigslist.org or ebay.com for hardware. Good
luck.

-A.
 
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qhard

Heh, Andy.. I dont know if I catch you right. But it is not impossible make
compatibility with old games on new operating system and on new hardware for
future. Mounting drives is not perforce, you can load MS-DOS from FDD drive
and optimal is it if you are using HDD with FAT16 or FAT32. Yes you can not
use RAM or DDR but sound can be hand on Sound Blaster 16. It is not
impossible for Microsoft make compatibility, but it however is not their
priority.

And yes. In Windows Vista are new graphic drivers and much old will be
removed. Technical support write it about and indicate it for problem between
users and graphic cards manufacturer. I think that is problem between PCs
manufacturer, Microsoft and users.

I dont know that with OS Linux will be better, I must try it. But I suppose
that this problem will be improved early.
 
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qhard

Thx for asking Wogerwabby. You can read text that is from Microsoft Windows
Vista Home Premium CZ 32b. Text(in english): Filesystem FAT32 and FAT16 for
DOS, Windows 95, Windows 98mWindows Millennium Edition and DOS. FAT is only
one filesystem compatible with multiboot.

If you want play DOS games you can boot from FDD or CD/DVD(special). Some
DOS application can read NTFS but FAT16 or FAT32 is optional. You can use old
mouse drivers(can be loaded if you are booting"cd mouse""mouse.com").

Try http://bootdisk.com/ .

Heh, Andy.. I dont know if I catch you right. But it is not impossible make
compatibility with old games on new operating system and on new hardware for
future. Mounting drives is not perforce, you can load MS-DOS from FDD drive
and optimal is it if you are using HDD with FAT16 or FAT32. Yes you can not
use RAM or DDR but sound can be hand on Sound Blaster 16. It is not
impossible for Microsoft make compatibility, but it however is not their
priority.

And yes. In Windows Vista are new graphic drivers and much old will be
removed. Technical support write it about and indicate it for problem between
users and graphic cards manufacturer. I think that is problem between PCs
manufacturer, Microsoft and users.

I dont know that with OS Linux will be better, I must try it. But I suppose
that this problem will be improved early.
 
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Cress

DOSBOX works great both Vista 32 and 64 bit O/S. In the DOSBOX install
folder there is a readme file that addresses problems like the "\". The
forward slash "/" will work as well.

I'm hacking my way thru "Super league of Hoboken", boy does this bring back
memories.
 
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bruno21101

hi dont even no if this is in the right section but need help and cant find
how to start a new topic so this is the closest i can find,its my son he
plays downloaded online games,when he downloads them the go on the screen and
they are covered by a shield and wont let him play them have tried all that
we can think of with no joy can someone help please xx
 
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Andy [YaYa]

bruno21101 said:
hi dont even no if this is in the right section but need help and cant find
how to start a new topic so this is the closest i can find,its my son he
plays downloaded online games,when he downloads them the go on the screen and
they are covered by a shield and wont let him play them have tried all that
we can think of with no joy can someone help please xx

This is Usenet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet), install a Usenet News Client (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_client) on your computer, and connect to your ISP's news server (if you have one). The group were on now is "Microsoft.public.windows.vista.games". There are thousands of other topics out there too.

OK, Usenet lesson end...

As for your problem, it'll be easier for us if we knew what game your son was trying to play (be specific, include a link to the game if necessary). And when you say a "Shield" do you mean like a medieval shield, something a knight might carry around, or is the screen being "blocked" by something.

We will also need the make and model of your computer, look on the computer itself, and if it's got a manufacturer and model number, include that in your response.

Best-a-luck, welcome to the net.
-A.
 
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bruno21101

Andy said:
machine??

This is Usenet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet), install a Usenet
News Client (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_client) on your computer,
and connect to your ISP's news server (if you have one). The group were on
now is "Microsoft.public.windows.vista.games". There are thousands of
other topics out there too.

OK, Usenet lesson end...

As for your problem, it'll be easier for us if we knew what game your son
was trying to play (be specific, include a link to the game if necessary).
And when you say a "Shield" do you mean like a medieval shield, something
a knight might carry around, or is the screen being "blocked" by
something.

We will also need the make and model of your computer, look on the
computer itself, and if it's got a manufacturer and model number, include
that in your response.

Best-a-luck, welcome to the net.
-A.
hi there sorry for not been pecific as a said were new to this,its a hp computer and runing windows vista premium ,the sheild is like a sequirty sheild,the game is called archlords http://community.codemasters.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=336
and might now no whats wrong is it that ins not vista ready :( ?? its a
shame to he had saved up all his birthday and christmas money to buy this new
computer at a cost of £800 especially for gameing quad core or so on ,is
there no way round about this if that is the issue?or does he just have to
wait till it becomes vista compatable ty in advance xx
 
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Andy [YaYa]

bruno21101 said:
and might now no whats wrong is it that ins not vista ready :( ?? its a
shame to he had saved up all his birthday and christmas money to buy this new
computer at a cost of £800 especially for gameing quad core or so on ,is
there no way round about this if that is the issue?or does he just have to
wait till it becomes vista compatable ty in advance xx

Well, I went to the Codemasters site and found the tech support forum..

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=600

There's nothing indicating that Vista doesn't work with this game. There is one issue where if you are having problems logging on (where you enter your username/password) that you should turn off UAC in Vista:

-quote-
1. Click on the Windows Start button -> Control Panel -> select “User Accounts Iconâ€
2. Select “User Accountsâ€
3. On the User Accounts screen, select “Turn User Account control on or offâ€
4. Uncheck – “Use User Account Control (UAC) to help protect your computerâ€
5. Select OK
6. Follow prompt to Restart PC
7. Run Archlord
** These settings will be saved even after the computer reboot so does not need to be re-set. **
** Please use this method to re-configure your PC after any system updates **
-end-quote-

You said you have an HP, but HP has literally HUNDREDS of different PCs in their support area. Does your HP have a model number? It's usually on the front of the case, it says something like "HP Media Center m1234n" the last part is the important part.

I would say you just need to update your computers drivers. New hardware, new OS, new problems being constantly fixed, if you don't keep your drivers up to date (even on a new computer) you might run into strange problems like this.

I don't know what you mean by "Security" shield either. Is it like a pop-up message that appears on the screen, or is it just like a black box or something else?

-A.
 
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ian

Dan Lingman said:
Install virtual PC (free) from Microsoft.
Install Dos, or win 95/98/xp into virtual PC. (You'll need your
media/license key for that)
Install your fullscreen dos games and go nuts.

Dan.
what or where can i found media/license key
 
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ronald.phillips

Best way to configureDosBox:

Opendosbox.conf with a text editor and find these settings and change
them to the settings I have them set to:

Code:

You don't need dynamic core with wolf3d.
 
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inst

some software can't run with vista..but in xp it can run..should i do
adjustment to make the software run at vista.
 
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pcandmacgames

You will find a dos self configuring dos emulator that will allow you to play most dos games.
 
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Andy [YaYa]

pcandmacgames wrote in
You will find a dos self configuring dos emulator that will allow you
to play most dos games.

You could also get DOS Box and not pay a penny to some scammer who's
repackageing freeware and making money off it. :( Ebay can rot in hell.
 
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thepcgameshop pcgameworld

Autorun Self Configuring Dos Emulator CD

You can find it at www.thepcgameshop.com



Wogerwabb wrote:

Running DOS Games under Vista
13-Jan-08

I have tried to no avail t install and run AAAAANY of my older DOS based (and
full screen) games that usd to run under XP and earlier. s there a
workaround for this or am I stuck having to run these on an older machine??

Previous Posts In This Thread:

Running DOS Games under Vista
I have tried to no avail t install and run AAAAANY of my older DOS based (and
full screen) games that usd to run under XP and earlier. s there a
workaround for this or am I stuck having to run these on an older machine??

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
Have you tried using 'DosBOX' (http://www.dosbox.com/)? Alternatively,
if you have Vista Business, then you can download the free Microsoft
Virtual PC and use it to install your old version of Windows XP.


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mikeyq6

=?Utf-8?B?V29nZXJ3YWJieQ==?
Install virtual PC (free) from Microsoft.
Install Dos, or win 95/98/xp into virtual PC. (You'll need your
media/license key for that)
Install your fullscreen dos games and go nuts.

Dan.

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
Wogerwabby;572275 Wrote:

Check out DOSBox, it's a DOS emulator, that was made for playing old
DOS games under Windows (and a bunch of other OS's as well). Works
great for me under Vista Ult. 32-bit.

'DOSBox, a x86 emulator with DOS' (http://www.dosbox.com)


--
techie007

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
Wogerwabby wrote:

DOSBox!

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Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

Mike,
I have just tried DosBox and for some reason it won't allow me to enter the
colon or foreward slash to input the drive parameters. I guess I must have
an odd keyboard to not map right. It is a Microsoft IntelliSense wireless
keyboard and mouse setup. I even tried an older HP keyboard to no avail. It
was a nice advice on the Virtual PC, but unfortunately I am using the Premium
Home version of Vista and it is not supported. Any other ideas? Thanks for
helping so far.
Randy

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

I have just tried DosBox and for some reason it won't allow me to enter the
colon or foreward slash to input the drive parameters. I guess I must have
an odd keyboard to not map right. It is a Microsoft IntelliSense wireless
keyboard and mouse setup. I even tried an older HP keyboard to no avail. It
was a nice advice on the Virtual PC, but unfortunately I am using the Premium
Home version of Vista and it is not supported. Any other ideas? Thanks for
helping so far.
Randy

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

I have just tried DosBox and for some reason it won't allow me to enter the
colon or foreward slash to input the drive parameters. I guess I must have
an odd keyboard to not map right. It is a Microsoft IntelliSense wireless
keyboard and mouse setup. I even tried an older HP keyboard to no avail. It
was a nice advice on the Virtual PC, but unfortunately I am using the Premium
Home version of Vista and it is not supported. Any other ideas? Thanks for
helping so far.
Randy

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

I have just tried DosBox and for some reason it won't allow me to enter the
colon or foreward slash to input the drive parameters. I guess I must have
an odd keyboard to not map right. It is a Microsoft IntelliSense wireless
keyboard and mouse setup. I even tried an older HP keyboard to no avail.
Any other ideas? Thanks for helping so far.
Randy

Are you talking "\" or "/"?
Are you talking "\" or "/"? DOS uses "\" to specify folder. Linux uses "/".




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/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
/( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.23.13
^ ^ 11:37:01 up 4 days 18:50 0 users load average: 1.00 1.03 1.00
? ? (CSSA):
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Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

I was talking about the FOREWARD slash "\" and I tried the backslash, but
can not get the colon":" to type out either??!

Are you using English XP?
Are you using English XP?

--
@~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
/( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.23.13
^ ^ 13:32:01 up 4 days 20:45 0 users load average: 1.28 1.11 1.07
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Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

English, yes, but running Vista...I have tried that program with XP and it
allows me to input from the keyboard of the laptop just fine, just not with
Vista on the desktop

Did you set your "Codepage for non-Unicode Programs" to some weird language?
Did you set your "Codepage for non-Unicode Programs" to some weird language?

Are you using a wireless keyboard?

--
@~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
/( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) Linux 2.6.23.13
^ ^ 17:36:01 up 5 days 49 min 0 users load average: 1.09 1.07 1.01
? ? (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa/

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

I did not set anything, just used the software as it came.
The keyboard is a Microsoft Wireless Comfort 1.0

Are you in the US? Is Vista set to US-Keyboard under the Region Settings?
Are you in the US? Is Vista set to US-Keyboard under the Region Settings?

If you bring up DOSBOX.CONF (you'll find a link to this file in your start
menu, just type dosbox in search), look for this entry:
--snip--
keyboardlayout=

this is a new option since version 0.70. leaving it untouched gives you the
default US keyboard layout, changing it to 'gr' activates for example the
support for german keyboards. several european languages are supported
internal, watch the readme file for all supported languages. for other
languages you can use the .kl files from the freedos project (details in the
readme).
--end-snip--

So, check the dosbox readme file as well for help.

GL,
-A.


I ran into this same problem, with a Gateway US keyboard...
I ran into this same problem, with a Gateway US keyboard... finally
downloaded a frontend program, called D-Fend, which I could configure...
haven't used it in a long time.


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=?Utf-8?B?V29nZXJ3YWJieQ==?= <[email protected]>
wrote in

Hmm.

you could try vmware

Either download vmware workstation, and install dos into it, or pull down
the vmware player, and a preconfigured virtual machine (for example:
http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/126 is set up to play old dos
games)

Good luck.

Dan.

Virtual PC works under Microsoft Windows Home Premium on my computer.
Virtual PC works under Microsoft Windows Home Premium on my computer.

Update DOS Box. New ver. is ready for download.
Update DOS Box. New ver. is ready for download.

Do what I did,get a KVM switch, and a small form factor (like XPC by shuttle)
Do what I did,

get a KVM switch, and a small form factor (like XPC by shuttle) computer,
with DOS, or Windows 98, or XP w/DOSBOX, etc.

You could even get a decent used PC and Salvation Army or Goodwill for DOS.
Why bother trying to get the new stuff to run it? Just keep a PC configured
to run the old stuff. Simple enough. Full compatibility, no issues.

PDK

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Re: Running DOS Games under Vista

Yeah, I have an old DOS 486 in storage, complete with a SB16 and a Roland
MT-32 Synth module (the card version, forget what it was called), 80meg HD,
5.25" and 3.5" floppies, I love it. One of my oldest computers, next to my
original Atari 800.

God, I gotta get outta this business. :)

NO!
NO! I installed VPC07 on my Home Premium, and said "You are not running a
suitable OS." This did not happen when installing VPC07 with Win2K on my old
XP.

:

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
Yes!
It still works.


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I have some information about it from Czech Republick.
I have some information about it from Czech Republick. Microsoft implemented
into Windows Vista new drivers for graphic cards that is not compatible with
any MS-DOS application and taht is not compatible with any 3Dfx OpenGL
application. I wait that Microsoft improve it, because it is not possible
install old graphic drivers from Windows XP or older and DosBOX it is not a
good idea. DosBOX is not treatment from Microsoft and it slow down your
computer very drastically.

:

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista

No S*it Sherlock, DOSBox is an EMULATOR, it emulates old hardware using new
hardware combined with complex software routines. Yes, it runs slow, unless
you have a Quad Core with a lot of CPU power, it will run slower than you'd
expect it too.

BUT, it is a PROGRAM, the rest of your system runs normally, and when you
quit the program, like all other programs your system (should) return to
normal.

Old DOS Games + New Operating Systems/New Hardware = Sadness.


http://dosbox.sourceforge.net

Read the information there. A lot of DOS games run great under DOSBox, some
do not. They actually have a list of which games work on their site
somewhere. If you're comfortable working with DOS programs, then DOSBox
should be easy for you to setup and get running. If you're not used to
editing text files read their tutorials for help.

There are other ways to get DOS games to work, Virtual PC 2007 isn't too bad
if you don't plan to run heavy 3D games, but the sound emulation isn't that
great. DOSBox actually emulates a good ole SB16 and GUS. You'll get better
results with DOSBox.

Respond here if you need help, but if you search around this newsgroup for
DOSBox posts, or search Google you'll find more than enough information to
get your old games running.

Vista doesn't use new drivers, they simply moved the drivers from Kernal
protected ram to User normal ram. Results are you don't have to reboot if
your video driver crashes, but there are some compatibility issues with
older XP drivers. Vista and XP never really ran DOS titles very well, mainly
because PCs no longer use ISA audio cards and a lot of older routines were
simply removed from Windows and todays PC hardware.

Yes, keeping a fully functional Pentium with ISA versions of the Sound
Blaster 16 or Gravis UltraSound is THE best way to ensure your old games
keep working. Hard part is finding hardware that still works. I highly
recommend checking sites like Craigslist.org or ebay.com for hardware. Good
luck.

-A.

Heh, Andy.. I dont know if I catch you right.
Heh, Andy.. I dont know if I catch you right. But it is not impossible make
compatibility with old games on new operating system and on new hardware for
future. Mounting drives is not perforce, you can load MS-DOS from FDD drive
and optimal is it if you are using HDD with FAT16 or FAT32. Yes you can not
use RAM or DDR but sound can be hand on Sound Blaster 16. It is not
impossible for Microsoft make compatibility, but it however is not their
priority.

And yes. In Windows Vista are new graphic drivers and much old will be
removed. Technical support write it about and indicate it for problem between
users and graphic cards manufacturer. I think that is problem between PCs
manufacturer, Microsoft and users.

I dont know that with OS Linux will be better, I must try it. But I suppose
that this problem will be improved early.

:

Thx for asking Wogerwabby.
Thx for asking Wogerwabby. You can read text that is from Microsoft Windows
Vista Home Premium CZ 32b. Text(in english): Filesystem FAT32 and FAT16 for
DOS, Windows 95, Windows 98mWindows Millennium Edition and DOS. FAT is only
one filesystem compatible with multiboot.

If you want play DOS games you can boot from FDD or CD/DVD(special). Some
DOS application can read NTFS but FAT16 or FAT32 is optional. You can use old
mouse drivers(can be loaded if you are booting"cd mouse""mouse.com").

Try http://bootdisk.com/ .

Heh, Andy.. I dont know if I catch you right. But it is not impossible make
compatibility with old games on new operating system and on new hardware for
future. Mounting drives is not perforce, you can load MS-DOS from FDD drive
and optimal is it if you are using HDD with FAT16 or FAT32. Yes you can not
use RAM or DDR but sound can be hand on Sound Blaster 16. It is not
impossible for Microsoft make compatibility, but it however is not their
priority.

And yes. In Windows Vista are new graphic drivers and much old will be
removed. Technical support write it about and indicate it for problem between
users and graphic cards manufacturer. I think that is problem between PCs
manufacturer, Microsoft and users.

I dont know that with OS Linux will be better, I must try it. But I suppose
that this problem will be improved early.

:



:

DOSBOX works great both Vista 32 and 64 bit O/S.
DOSBOX works great both Vista 32 and 64 bit O/S. In the DOSBOX install
folder there is a readme file that addresses problems like the "\". The
forward slash "/" will work as well.

I'm hacking my way thru "Super league of Hoboken", boy does this bring back
memories.
--
Cress


:

hi dont even no if this is in the right section but need help and cant find
hi dont even no if this is in the right section but need help and cant find
how to start a new topic so this is the closest i can find,its my son he
plays downloaded online games,when he downloads them the go on the screen and
they are covered by a shield and wont let him play them have tried all that
we can think of with no joy can someone help please xx

:

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
find=20
he=20
screen and=20
that=20
based (and=20
machine??

This is Usenet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet), install a Usenet =
News Client (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_client) on your computer, =
and connect to your ISP's news server (if you have one). The group were =
on now is "Microsoft.public.windows.vista.games". There are thousands of =
other topics out there too.

OK, Usenet lesson end...

As for your problem, it'll be easier for us if we knew what game your =
son was trying to play (be specific, include a link to the game if =
necessary). And when you say a "Shield" do you mean like a medieval =
shield, something a knight might carry around, or is the screen being =
"blocked" by something.

We will also need the make and model of your computer, look on the =
computer itself, and if it's got a manufacturer and model number, =
include that in your response.

Best-a-luck, welcome to the net.
-A.

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

and might now no whats wrong is it that ins not vista ready :( ?? its a
shame to he had saved up all his birthday and christmas money to buy this new
computer at a cost of ??800 especially for gameing quad core or so on ,is
there no way round about this if that is the issue?or does he just have to
wait till it becomes vista compatable ty in advance xx

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
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Well, I went to the Codemasters site and found the tech support forum..

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=3D600

There's nothing indicating that Vista doesn't work with this game. There =
is one issue where if you are having problems logging on (where you =
enter your username/password) that you should turn off UAC in Vista:

-quote-
1. Click on the Windows Start button -> Control Panel -> select =
=E2=80=9CUser Accounts Icon=E2=80=9D
2. Select =E2=80=9CUser Accounts=E2=80=9D
3. On the User Accounts screen, select =E2=80=9CTurn User Account =
control on or off=E2=80=9D
4. Uncheck =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9CUse User Account Control (UAC) to help =
protect your computer=E2=80=9D
5. Select OK
6. Follow prompt to Restart PC
7. Run Archlord
** These settings will be saved even after the computer reboot so does =
not need to be re-set. **
** Please use this method to re-configure your PC after any system =
updates **
-end-quote-

You said you have an HP, but HP has literally HUNDREDS of different PCs =
in their support area. Does your HP have a model number? It's usually on =
the front of the case, it says something like "HP Media Center m1234n" =
the last part is the important part.

I would say you just need to update your computers drivers. New =
hardware, new OS, new problems being constantly fixed, if you don't keep =
your drivers up to date (even on a new computer) you might run into =
strange problems like this.

I don't know what you mean by "Security" shield either. Is it like a =
pop-up message that appears on the screen, or is it just like a black =
box or something else?

-A.

DosBox is absolutly great...
DosBox is absolutly great... As I know it simply overloads the CPU with
a "few" cycles, so the games won't run wild on you machine. You can
further adjust that with the function keys. I have tried Laser Squad,
Aethra Chronicles, Prehistorik, Prince of Persia, Blood and Duke Nukem
3D. All running just fine even from Vista. I absolutely suggest using
the most recent version. The earlier ones seem a bit bugged...


--
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Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:




what or where can i found media/license key

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
Best way to configure DosBox:

Open dosbox.conf with a text editor and find these settings and change
them to the settings I have them set to:


Code:
--------------------
core=dynamic
cycles=max
output=ddraw
--------------------


This way you don't have to adjust CPU cycles. Results are perfect in
Wolfenstein 3D, don't even realize I'm in DosBox in fullscreen. :D


--
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I know but I found it to be the best way to configure it for my system.-- Storm
I know but I found it to be the best way to configure it for my system.


--
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Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
You do not need dynamic core with wolf3d.

=?Utf-8?B?aWFu?
(e-mail address removed):


The license key for whatever OS you're installing. Obviously, DOS doesn't
need such a thing, but if you're installing XP into a virtual machine, it's
just like installing it on a real machine.

Dan.

some software can't run with vista..but in xp it can run..
some software cannot run with vista..but in xp it can run..should i do
adjustment to make the software run at vista.

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
DOSBox

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Search Ebay for Play dos games on Xp
You will find a dos self configuring dos emulator that will allow you to play most dos games.

Re: Search Ebay for Play dos games on Xp
You could also get DOS Box and not pay a penny to some scammer who is
repackageing freeware and making money off it. :( Ebay can rot in hell.

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Wogerwabb wrote:

Running DOS Games under Vista
13-Jan-08

I have tried to no avail t install and run AAAAANY of my older DOS based (and
full screen) games that usd to run under XP and earlier. s there a
workaround for this or am I stuck having to run these on an older machine??

Previous Posts In This Thread:

Running DOS Games under Vista
I have tried to no avail t install and run AAAAANY of my older DOS based (and
full screen) games that usd to run under XP and earlier. s there a
workaround for this or am I stuck having to run these on an older machine??

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
Have you tried using 'DosBOX' (http://www.dosbox.com/)? Alternatively,
if you have Vista Business, then you can download the free Microsoft
Virtual PC and use it to install your old version of Windows XP.


--
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=?Utf-8?B?V29nZXJ3YWJieQ==?
Install virtual PC (free) from Microsoft.
Install Dos, or win 95/98/xp into virtual PC. (You'll need your
media/license key for that)
Install your fullscreen dos games and go nuts.

Dan.

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
Wogerwabby;572275 Wrote:

Check out DOSBox, it's a DOS emulator, that was made for playing old
DOS games under Windows (and a bunch of other OS's as well). Works
great for me under Vista Ult. 32-bit.

'DOSBox, a x86 emulator with DOS' (http://www.dosbox.com)


--
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Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
Wogerwabby wrote:

DOSBox!

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Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

Mike,
I have just tried DosBox and for some reason it won't allow me to enter the
colon or foreward slash to input the drive parameters. I guess I must have
an odd keyboard to not map right. It is a Microsoft IntelliSense wireless
keyboard and mouse setup. I even tried an older HP keyboard to no avail. It
was a nice advice on the Virtual PC, but unfortunately I am using the Premium
Home version of Vista and it is not supported. Any other ideas? Thanks for
helping so far.
Randy

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

I have just tried DosBox and for some reason it won't allow me to enter the
colon or foreward slash to input the drive parameters. I guess I must have
an odd keyboard to not map right. It is a Microsoft IntelliSense wireless
keyboard and mouse setup. I even tried an older HP keyboard to no avail. It
was a nice advice on the Virtual PC, but unfortunately I am using the Premium
Home version of Vista and it is not supported. Any other ideas? Thanks for
helping so far.
Randy

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

I have just tried DosBox and for some reason it won't allow me to enter the
colon or foreward slash to input the drive parameters. I guess I must have
an odd keyboard to not map right. It is a Microsoft IntelliSense wireless
keyboard and mouse setup. I even tried an older HP keyboard to no avail. It
was a nice advice on the Virtual PC, but unfortunately I am using the Premium
Home version of Vista and it is not supported. Any other ideas? Thanks for
helping so far.
Randy

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

I have just tried DosBox and for some reason it won't allow me to enter the
colon or foreward slash to input the drive parameters. I guess I must have
an odd keyboard to not map right. It is a Microsoft IntelliSense wireless
keyboard and mouse setup. I even tried an older HP keyboard to no avail.
Any other ideas? Thanks for helping so far.
Randy

Are you talking "\" or "/"?
Are you talking "\" or "/"? DOS uses "\" to specify folder. Linux uses "/".




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Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

I was talking about the FOREWARD slash "\" and I tried the backslash, but
can not get the colon":" to type out either??!

Are you using English XP?
Are you using English XP?

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Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

English, yes, but running Vista...I have tried that program with XP and it
allows me to input from the keyboard of the laptop just fine, just not with
Vista on the desktop

Did you set your "Codepage for non-Unicode Programs" to some weird language?
Did you set your "Codepage for non-Unicode Programs" to some weird language?

Are you using a wireless keyboard?

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Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

I did not set anything, just used the software as it came.
The keyboard is a Microsoft Wireless Comfort 1.0

Are you in the US? Is Vista set to US-Keyboard under the Region Settings?
Are you in the US? Is Vista set to US-Keyboard under the Region Settings?

If you bring up DOSBOX.CONF (you'll find a link to this file in your start
menu, just type dosbox in search), look for this entry:
--snip--
keyboardlayout=

this is a new option since version 0.70. leaving it untouched gives you the
default US keyboard layout, changing it to 'gr' activates for example the
support for german keyboards. several european languages are supported
internal, watch the readme file for all supported languages. for other
languages you can use the .kl files from the freedos project (details in the
readme).
--end-snip--

So, check the dosbox readme file as well for help.

GL,
-A.


I ran into this same problem, with a Gateway US keyboard...
I ran into this same problem, with a Gateway US keyboard... finally
downloaded a frontend program, called D-Fend, which I could configure...
haven't used it in a long time.


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wrote in

Hmm.

you could try vmware

Either download vmware workstation, and install dos into it, or pull down
the vmware player, and a preconfigured virtual machine (for example:
http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/126 is set up to play old dos
games)

Good luck.

Dan.

Virtual PC works under Microsoft Windows Home Premium on my computer.
Virtual PC works under Microsoft Windows Home Premium on my computer.

Update DOS Box. New ver. is ready for download.
Update DOS Box. New ver. is ready for download.

Do what I did,get a KVM switch, and a small form factor (like XPC by shuttle)
Do what I did,

get a KVM switch, and a small form factor (like XPC by shuttle) computer,
with DOS, or Windows 98, or XP w/DOSBOX, etc.

You could even get a decent used PC and Salvation Army or Goodwill for DOS.
Why bother trying to get the new stuff to run it? Just keep a PC configured
to run the old stuff. Simple enough. Full compatibility, no issues.

PDK

:

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista

Yeah, I have an old DOS 486 in storage, complete with a SB16 and a Roland
MT-32 Synth module (the card version, forget what it was called), 80meg HD,
5.25" and 3.5" floppies, I love it. One of my oldest computers, next to my
original Atari 800.

God, I gotta get outta this business. :)

NO!
NO! I installed VPC07 on my Home Premium, and said "You are not running a
suitable OS." This did not happen when installing VPC07 with Win2K on my old
XP.

:

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
Yes!
It still works.


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I have some information about it from Czech Republick.
I have some information about it from Czech Republick. Microsoft implemented
into Windows Vista new drivers for graphic cards that is not compatible with
any MS-DOS application and taht is not compatible with any 3Dfx OpenGL
application. I wait that Microsoft improve it, because it is not possible
install old graphic drivers from Windows XP or older and DosBOX it is not a
good idea. DosBOX is not treatment from Microsoft and it slow down your
computer very drastically.

:

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista

No S*it Sherlock, DOSBox is an EMULATOR, it emulates old hardware using new
hardware combined with complex software routines. Yes, it runs slow, unless
you have a Quad Core with a lot of CPU power, it will run slower than you'd
expect it too.

BUT, it is a PROGRAM, the rest of your system runs normally, and when you
quit the program, like all other programs your system (should) return to
normal.

Old DOS Games + New Operating Systems/New Hardware = Sadness.


http://dosbox.sourceforge.net

Read the information there. A lot of DOS games run great under DOSBox, some
do not. They actually have a list of which games work on their site
somewhere. If you're comfortable working with DOS programs, then DOSBox
should be easy for you to setup and get running. If you're not used to
editing text files read their tutorials for help.

There are other ways to get DOS games to work, Virtual PC 2007 isn't too bad
if you don't plan to run heavy 3D games, but the sound emulation isn't that
great. DOSBox actually emulates a good ole SB16 and GUS. You'll get better
results with DOSBox.

Respond here if you need help, but if you search around this newsgroup for
DOSBox posts, or search Google you'll find more than enough information to
get your old games running.

Vista doesn't use new drivers, they simply moved the drivers from Kernal
protected ram to User normal ram. Results are you don't have to reboot if
your video driver crashes, but there are some compatibility issues with
older XP drivers. Vista and XP never really ran DOS titles very well, mainly
because PCs no longer use ISA audio cards and a lot of older routines were
simply removed from Windows and todays PC hardware.

Yes, keeping a fully functional Pentium with ISA versions of the Sound
Blaster 16 or Gravis UltraSound is THE best way to ensure your old games
keep working. Hard part is finding hardware that still works. I highly
recommend checking sites like Craigslist.org or ebay.com for hardware. Good
luck.

-A.

Heh, Andy.. I dont know if I catch you right.
Heh, Andy.. I dont know if I catch you right. But it is not impossible make
compatibility with old games on new operating system and on new hardware for
future. Mounting drives is not perforce, you can load MS-DOS from FDD drive
and optimal is it if you are using HDD with FAT16 or FAT32. Yes you can not
use RAM or DDR but sound can be hand on Sound Blaster 16. It is not
impossible for Microsoft make compatibility, but it however is not their
priority.

And yes. In Windows Vista are new graphic drivers and much old will be
removed. Technical support write it about and indicate it for problem between
users and graphic cards manufacturer. I think that is problem between PCs
manufacturer, Microsoft and users.

I dont know that with OS Linux will be better, I must try it. But I suppose
that this problem will be improved early.

:

Thx for asking Wogerwabby.
Thx for asking Wogerwabby. You can read text that is from Microsoft Windows
Vista Home Premium CZ 32b. Text(in english): Filesystem FAT32 and FAT16 for
DOS, Windows 95, Windows 98mWindows Millennium Edition and DOS. FAT is only
one filesystem compatible with multiboot.

If you want play DOS games you can boot from FDD or CD/DVD(special). Some
DOS application can read NTFS but FAT16 or FAT32 is optional. You can use old
mouse drivers(can be loaded if you are booting"cd mouse""mouse.com").

Try http://bootdisk.com/ .

Heh, Andy.. I dont know if I catch you right. But it is not impossible make
compatibility with old games on new operating system and on new hardware for
future. Mounting drives is not perforce, you can load MS-DOS from FDD drive
and optimal is it if you are using HDD with FAT16 or FAT32. Yes you can not
use RAM or DDR but sound can be hand on Sound Blaster 16. It is not
impossible for Microsoft make compatibility, but it however is not their
priority.

And yes. In Windows Vista are new graphic drivers and much old will be
removed. Technical support write it about and indicate it for problem between
users and graphic cards manufacturer. I think that is problem between PCs
manufacturer, Microsoft and users.

I dont know that with OS Linux will be better, I must try it. But I suppose
that this problem will be improved early.

:



:

DOSBOX works great both Vista 32 and 64 bit O/S.
DOSBOX works great both Vista 32 and 64 bit O/S. In the DOSBOX install
folder there is a readme file that addresses problems like the "\". The
forward slash "/" will work as well.

I'm hacking my way thru "Super league of Hoboken", boy does this bring back
memories.
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:

hi dont even no if this is in the right section but need help and cant find
hi dont even no if this is in the right section but need help and cant find
how to start a new topic so this is the closest i can find,its my son he
plays downloaded online games,when he downloads them the go on the screen and
they are covered by a shield and wont let him play them have tried all that
we can think of with no joy can someone help please xx

:

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
find=20
he=20
screen and=20
that=20
based (and=20
machine??

This is Usenet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet), install a Usenet =
News Client (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_client) on your computer, =
and connect to your ISP's news server (if you have one). The group were =
on now is "Microsoft.public.windows.vista.games". There are thousands of =
other topics out there too.

OK, Usenet lesson end...

As for your problem, it'll be easier for us if we knew what game your =
son was trying to play (be specific, include a link to the game if =
necessary). And when you say a "Shield" do you mean like a medieval =
shield, something a knight might carry around, or is the screen being =
"blocked" by something.

We will also need the make and model of your computer, look on the =
computer itself, and if it's got a manufacturer and model number, =
include that in your response.

Best-a-luck, welcome to the net.
-A.

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

and might now no whats wrong is it that ins not vista ready :( ?? its a
shame to he had saved up all his birthday and christmas money to buy this new
computer at a cost of ??800 especially for gameing quad core or so on ,is
there no way round about this if that is the issue?or does he just have to
wait till it becomes vista compatable ty in advance xx

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
cant
son he
all
a
Usenet
computer,
were on
son
necessary).
something
include
hp computer and runing windows vista premium ,the sheild is like a =
sequirty sheild,the game is called archlords =
http://community.codemasters.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=3D336
its a=20
this new=20
on ,is=20
have to=20

Well, I went to the Codemasters site and found the tech support forum..

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=3D600

There's nothing indicating that Vista doesn't work with this game. There =
is one issue where if you are having problems logging on (where you =
enter your username/password) that you should turn off UAC in Vista:

-quote-
1. Click on the Windows Start button -> Control Panel -> select =
=E2=80=9CUser Accounts Icon=E2=80=9D
2. Select =E2=80=9CUser Accounts=E2=80=9D
3. On the User Accounts screen, select =E2=80=9CTurn User Account =
control on or off=E2=80=9D
4. Uncheck =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9CUse User Account Control (UAC) to help =
protect your computer=E2=80=9D
5. Select OK
6. Follow prompt to Restart PC
7. Run Archlord
** These settings will be saved even after the computer reboot so does =
not need to be re-set. **
** Please use this method to re-configure your PC after any system =
updates **
-end-quote-

You said you have an HP, but HP has literally HUNDREDS of different PCs =
in their support area. Does your HP have a model number? It's usually on =
the front of the case, it says something like "HP Media Center m1234n" =
the last part is the important part.

I would say you just need to update your computers drivers. New =
hardware, new OS, new problems being constantly fixed, if you don't keep =
your drivers up to date (even on a new computer) you might run into =
strange problems like this.

I don't know what you mean by "Security" shield either. Is it like a =
pop-up message that appears on the screen, or is it just like a black =
box or something else?

-A.

DosBox is absolutly great...
DosBox is absolutly great... As I know it simply overloads the CPU with
a "few" cycles, so the games won't run wild on you machine. You can
further adjust that with the function keys. I have tried Laser Squad,
Aethra Chronicles, Prehistorik, Prince of Persia, Blood and Duke Nukem
3D. All running just fine even from Vista. I absolutely suggest using
the most recent version. The earlier ones seem a bit bugged...


--
PerryMason

______________________________
windows vista ultimate x64
linux ubuntu 7.10
____________________________
*Gigabyte P35 System*
*
intel c2d 6750 (oc 3.2ghz)
2gb corsair (xms2, dual)
500gb wd
160gb maxtor
leadtek 8800 gt*
_______________________

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:




what or where can i found media/license key

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
Best way to configure DosBox:

Open dosbox.conf with a text editor and find these settings and change
them to the settings I have them set to:


Code:
--------------------
core=dynamic
cycles=max
output=ddraw
--------------------


This way you don't have to adjust CPU cycles. Results are perfect in
Wolfenstein 3D, don't even realize I'm in DosBox in fullscreen. :D


--
Storm

I know but I found it to be the best way to configure it for my system.-- Storm
I know but I found it to be the best way to configure it for my system.


--
Storm

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
You do not need dynamic core with wolf3d.

=?Utf-8?B?aWFu?
(e-mail address removed):


The license key for whatever OS you're installing. Obviously, DOS doesn't
need such a thing, but if you're installing XP into a virtual machine, it's
just like installing it on a real machine.

Dan.

some software can't run with vista..but in xp it can run..
some software cannot run with vista..but in xp it can run..should i do
adjustment to make the software run at vista.

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
:

Re: Running DOS Games under Vista
DOSBox

--
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/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
/( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.10) Linux 2.6.25.1
^ ^ 17:53:01 up 1 day 22:18 1 user load average: 2.02 2.09 2.08
? ? (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa/

Search Ebay for Play dos games on Xp
You will find a dos self configuring dos emulator that will allow you to play most dos games.

Re: Search Ebay for Play dos games on Xp
You could also get DOS Box and not pay a penny to some scammer who is
repackageing freeware and making money off it. :( Ebay can rot in hell.

--
-A.

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