Router Problem on Vista Machines

[Barb Bowman]

Post some details about your router, network card, etc. and the text
output of ipconfig /all from an elevated cmd prompt. Maybe there is
a firmware update available for your router if
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/932134 is your issue.
Or you may need a new driver for your network card.

without details, we can only guess.

Having pretty much the same problem here. After a while every page I attempt
to view produces the message: IE can not open that window. So I diagnose the
problem. Get answer: there is no problem with your connection. I close, renew
and view. This goes on for a while. Then I get the not open message again.
This time it is turn off the TCP setting not compatible with your router. Do
so. Works for a while, then it is tune up TCP settings. Works for a while,
then 'windows has encountered a problem it can not fix'.

What is going on here? Vista is increasingly looking like a highly defective
product.

What should I do?

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

 

[Mousky]

Post some details about your router, network card, etc. and the text
output of ipconfig /all from an elevated cmd prompt. Maybe there is
a firmware update available for your router if http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/932134 is your issue.
Or you may need a new driver for your network card.

I love the use of the word "outdated" in the title of that KB entry.
That explicitly translates into that the problem is with your router
not the new TCP/IP stack. How can products based on open standards
suddenly become out of date? It's not like TCP/IP communication is a
new thing.

I ran the Internet Connectivity Evaluation tool and it told me that
everything but uPnP worked. I was overwhelmed with joy and thought to
myself, "surely, this means that I should have no problem connecting
to the internet". Alas, I was fooled. Downloads lag. Web pages take
forever to load, if at all. And on and on the problems go. I updated
the driver. I changed the netsh interface tcp global settings. Static
IP. Dynamic IP. Direct connect to cable modem. Direct connect to
router. I have a few more things to try, but I'm running out of ideas
and patience.

The 'outdated' TCP/IP stack in XP SP2 has no problems connecting with
the router that passed with flying color. Surfing on my four-year old
laptop over a 11mpbs wireless connection is fast and a pleasure. The
shiny new TCP/IP stack in Vista on the other hand can't make up it's
mind leading to surfing that is not as fast and sporadic at best. MS
should have included some form of backward-compatibility in the new
TCP/IP stack - some sort of "Work like XP" option.

The most amusing thing is when I ask Vista to repair my network
connection. After performing its review, one of the options is to turn
off a setting that is not compatible with my router. The setting is
autotuning. But the Internet Connectivity Evaluation tool told me
everything is hunky dory. Which one do I believe?

without details, we can only guess.

Much like MS did with the new TCP/IP stack.

 

[Mousky]

Some switches or routers may not compatible with Vista

Shouldn't that read Vista may not be compatible with some switches or
routers? After all, those switches and routers pre-dated Visa.

Look, I understand that Vista may not work with some routers, but it's
hard to tell people to spend some more money on new hardware, when
their four-year old laptop with XP SP2 connects to their 'outdated'
router with no problems? You shouldn't have to upgrade your networking
hardware because of a new TCP/IP stack? The 'outdated' stack in XP
worked, and it worked well. Surely, MS knew that the many routers
would not work with IPv6 and autotuning, so why not toss in some
backward-compatibility into the new TCP/IP stack?

 

[Barb Bowman]

Please post the text output of

ipconfig /all

from an elevated cmd prompt

If you have an issue when connected directly to a cable modem, then
I suspect it is not the router.

Some info on what NIC and what driver
what router, model, hardware rev and firmware
brand and model of cable modem

would all be useful along with a restatement of your exact problem
since you piggybacked on another thread.

I ran the Internet Connectivity Evaluation tool and it told me that
everything but uPnP worked. I was overwhelmed with joy and thought to
myself, "surely, this means that I should have no problem connecting
to the internet". Alas, I was fooled. Downloads lag. Web pages take
forever to load, if at all. And on and on the problems go. I updated
the driver. I changed the netsh interface tcp global settings. Static
IP. Dynamic IP. Direct connect to cable modem. Direct connect to
router. I have a few more things to try, but I'm running out of ideas
and patience.

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

 

[Barb Bowman]

Language/semantics isn't going to help solve your problem, nor is
20/20 hindsight or speculation. If you post some details, we will
try to assist you as best we can.

Shouldn't that read Vista may not be compatible with some switches or
routers? After all, those switches and routers pre-dated Visa.

Look, I understand that Vista may not work with some routers, but it's
hard to tell people to spend some more money on new hardware, when
their four-year old laptop with XP SP2 connects to their 'outdated'
router with no problems? You shouldn't have to upgrade your networking
hardware because of a new TCP/IP stack? The 'outdated' stack in XP
worked, and it worked well. Surely, MS knew that the many routers
would not work with IPv6 and autotuning, so why not toss in some
backward-compatibility into the new TCP/IP stack?

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

 

[Guest]

I have recently upgraded to Windows Vista and I was trying to setup my Vista
laptop so that it will connect to my existing wireless network. However it
always comes back with the default windows IP address and not actually
getting an IP address from the DHCP server. I am sure that the router is
working fine since my other pc with XP is connecting with no problem.
Windows is set to obtain IP address automatically and DHCP server on the
router is enabled. Currently using an Edimax AR-7064g+ router with built in
wireless adaptor on my laptop. All the drivers and firmwares is the latest.
How can i resolve this problem?

 

[Barb Bowman]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/932134
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us

other than the above, please post the text output of

ipconfig /all

from an elevated command prompt.

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:19:02 -0700, Daniel Pereira <Daniel

I have recently upgraded to Windows Vista and I was trying to setup my Vista
laptop so that it will connect to my existing wireless network. However it
always comes back with the default windows IP address and not actually
getting an IP address from the DHCP server. I am sure that the router is
working fine since my other pc with XP is connecting with no problem.
Windows is set to obtain IP address automatically and DHCP server on the
router is enabled. Currently using an Edimax AR-7064g+ router with built in
wireless adaptor on my laptop. All the drivers and firmwares is the latest.
How can i resolve this problem?

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/