Restore points ??

[dwolf]

From what I read, it seems that XP is the one that has problems with a dual
boot ???
If at this point and time I only care about the Vista drive. Will I be able
to do a system restore in Vista without problems ?

I have to hardrives.. one with Xp.. the original drive and a second with a
clean install of Vista..

 

[katy]

If you need to dualboot and access both OS's, I've read where you could
disable the vista drive in XP and disable the XP drive in vista, thereby
eliminating the destruction of restore points. This is an excerpt from that
post:

"..... In XP totally disable the drive/partition that holds Vista. In
Vista totally disable the drive/partition that holds XP. Now when you boot
to XP it won't even recognize the Vista drive/partition as usable. XP will
not interact with the Vista drive/partition. The same is true when you boot
to Vista. Vista will not use the XP drive/partition. XP can not kill the
Vista restore points as it doesn't even access the drive. This will also
isolate the two boots and prevents the possible issue of things getting
installed on the other OS's drive/partition due to drive lettering. It just
can not happen. "

HTH....katy

 

[DanR]

How?

If you need to dualboot and access both OS's, I've read where you could
disable the vista drive in XP and disable the XP drive in vista, thereby
eliminating the destruction of restore points. This is an excerpt from
that post:

"..... In XP totally disable the drive/partition that holds Vista. In
Vista totally disable the drive/partition that holds XP. Now when you
boot to XP it won't even recognize the Vista drive/partition as usable.
XP will not interact with the Vista drive/partition. The same is true
when you boot to Vista. Vista will not use the XP drive/partition. XP
can not kill the Vista restore points as it doesn't even access the drive.
This will also isolate the two boots and prevents the possible issue of
things getting installed on the other OS's drive/partition due to drive
lettering. It just can not happen. "

HTH....katy

 

[John Barnett MVP]

I have tried numerous ways of disabling both operating systems so that they
don't see each other and, frankly none of them have worked. Bitlocker works
fine, if you have Ultimate or Enterprise, otherwise I have found a
satisfactory solution to the problem.

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[John Barnett MVP]

You could use third party partitioning software to hide the partitions - but
they don't work. You could also use TweakUI from within XP - but again that
doesn't work either. As I have explained to Katy I have tried numerous ways
of hiding the partition(s) and none have been successful. That is one of the
reasons why, now, if you don't have Ultimate or Enterprise editions, in
which case you can use Bitlocker, MVPs are recommending using third party
boot managers to solve the problem.

I have used bitlocker without any problems; however, of late I decided to
wipe my hard drive, re-install Vista and then install Virtual machine
software (VPC 2007 or VMWare Workstation) and then install XP onto the
virtual machine software. You do need extra memory though. In my case 1GB of
memory is allocated to Vista and 512MB is allocated to the virtual machine
running XP. One advantage of virtual machine software is that you can boot
to XP from within Vista, so there is not need to close down and reboot the
machine and select from a dual boot menu. For preference I prefer VMWare.
Unfortunately this is not free software, unlike VPC 2007, but at least with
VMWare you do get USB support and sound. VPC 2007 doesn't support USB and I
have never got the sound to work.

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[DanR]

Thanks John. What did you mean by "MVPs are recommending using third party
boot managers to solve the problem"? I don't think you meant the lost
restore point problem... did you?
I'm a dual booter mainly because of Photoshop Elements and Premier Elements
version 4 and some hardware issues. I go back and forth several times a day.
Eventually my hardware issues will be resolved and I may spend the $150 to
upgrade Elements. Till then I boot and reboot.

 

[John Barnett MVP]

While I haven't tried it myself many MVPs are recommending that, to get
around the loss of system restore points, you use a third party boot
manager. I think BootIt NG is the most recommended. Apparently by using this
method the system restore points on Vista are not deleted.

I personally disable system restore and make sure I have an up to date image
of the drive. It is also easier now, with VPC 2007 being free, to create a
virtual machine and install XP; although, as I have said before I personally
much prefer VMWare Workstation because of its USB support. Unfortunately,
VMWare Workstation has to be purchased.

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