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Curt Christianson

Hi Newbie,

I'm not trying to hide anything, but I think this exchange would best be
served on a private basis, not here.
As far as the e-mail, I've had that addy for 7 yrs., and the bots haven't
got it yet.

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
http://aumha.org/
 
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Newbie Coder

Bots maybe not but there are many comcast, earthlink... users which are two
of the main spam domains used for spamming, hence my original reply in the
'rootkit' post

I am sure you are 100% genuine, but I don't e-mail people directly unless
its 100% necessary. Maybe if you're on Yahoo Messenger I may say hi because
I have an abuse reporting ID that doesn't have an e-mail account with it.
Yes, I am also an abuse reporter for a website too
 
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Hassan

Hey Newbie,

First and foremost, thank you for taking the time to help me out. This was
up and beyond to what i ever expected on a newsgroup.

Second, your file did not come through :-( I did not get any attachment.
Could you possibly rename the exe to some .pdf file or something that I
could then rename from my end. ?

In addition, I do understand what others are trying to do and that being to
protect the naive user just in case one has a malicious intent and I
definitely do not see that in you. You intentions to help are well received.
But I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope that nothing goes wrong ;)

Could you send the file again ? Thanks
 
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Hassan

Newbie,

One more thing, will it not work if it starts in service mode instead of
user mode?Have you tried that ?
 
N

Newbie Coder

Hassan,

Done what you wanted

No, I haven't tried service mode, but being as both use the same executale
with different command line switches there shouldn't be a problem
whatsoever.

Please be assured that never would I ever write malicious code in any of my
applications. Some of my applications are available on the Microsoft/MSDN
website for download & some have been published on CDs added to computer
magazines in the UK

Glad to be of help & thank you for giving me the opportunity to do so. It
was an absolute pleasure!!

Take it easy & see you again,
 
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Hassan

Hey Newbie,

It does not seem to be working from here. Looks like its getting blocked
someplace.

Can you send the file to this email id : (e-mail address removed)?
Remove the .remove from the id ;)

And I do trust you...
 
N

Newbie Coder

Not attached to the post Curt. Its 215 kb (zipped) & I only attach small
files to the posts normally. Whether it is a C++/VB.NET/C# project or
application, registry file, log file or something like that, but we are
talking about something that isn't my code. I just changed it a little to do
what Hassan wanted.

As I wrote in a previous post: if someone wants to do the same then they
can go ahead & re-compile the code for themselves. I just suggest they
compile it in Visual C++ 6 not .NET or they be forever porting the code.
Plus, you don't want it running on the framework as managed code

Ok. I have done an 18-hour day so far & need to get on & code something for
myself before I hit the sack.

See you,
 
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Curt Christianson

If it's not attached to your post, then WTH are we/anyone supposed to find
it? Certainly Hassan can't.

Newbie, I ain't lookin' for a fight, but put up or shut up. I've been up
longer than that you claim. I invited you to e-mail me in private in the
hopes we might get this resolved. I'm professional enough not to e-mail you
in the future if you don't want it. Maybe *I* should be worried??

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
http://aumha.org/
 
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Curt Christianson

Newbie,

I *hate* doing this.

Your knowledge of coding may be superior to *anyone* frequenting these
NG's--but I doubt it.

You have the overwhelming urge to let everyone know about your extensive
Registry skills.
"i've been coding for so long..., I've been helping people with malware
since...".

Bottom line my friend, is *anyone* with your kind of experience would not
have the urge to flaunt it. It's what known as *insecurity*. Kelly ( the
one you don't like) has proven herself over many years. I would actually
like nothing better than you to become part of the solution, not the
problem.

I consider you an intelligent individual, but if you can't see the
difference between sending someone to a "Kelly fix", and doing a Registry
hack, I don't know. A freehand reg-hack is one of the most dangerous
attempts a person can make. We, as an NG whole, don't *know* you.

Your comment the other night on the inherent dangers of Tweak UI were
ridiculous. Of course, Tweak XP *directly influences the Registry*--with a
convenient/safe GUI. Have you ever thought that anytime I choose to change
my desktop background color, it *changes the registry*. C'mon, Newbie.

What is the problem. *Any* registry hack done in "Regedit" is risky as hell
in inexperienced hands. That is the premise we have to operate on here.
Until you tell me you are really comfortable mucking around in the Registry,
I won't ask you to (a poster, and *me*). An automated (and proven, I might
add) Reg or .vbs will always be recommended.

Stop trying to prove yourself--your good advice will do that all by itself.
I don't care what your background is--it's the results that matter.

I really asked you to e-mail me instead.

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
http://aumha.org/
 
N

Newbie Coder

Curt,

For your knowledge Hassan has the exe file & its testing ok, which is also
done when I tested it.

I changed the code in the WinVNC server for hassan only because he requested
it & everyone else can use the version downloadable on the Real VNC website.

Your last few posts has really confused me in a way because you seem to go
off into one for a reason I cannot work out.

You said yourself that you have a huge ego & why not? Maybe you are like me
& have grown up with running Windows & supporting it in a professional
environment since the release of Windows 3.1 onwards. I cannot help it if I
have been programming daily since 1980 & progressed through the languages
like others have or haven't, as the case maybe.

As for the registry tweak that i mentioned. This is an example of what I
mean't

Example 1)

------------------

Regedit4

[Hkey_Local_machine\bla\bla\bla\...\Run]
"MyFile"="C:\Location\File.exe"

-------------------

Then telling the OP to copy whats between the lines into notepad, then
file|save as putting double quotes around the filename & addind '.reg' to
the end of the filename. Example: "MyKey.reg" then getting the user to set
the filter to all files & then click the save button

Example 2:

Create the registry file myself, zip it & add it to the post so anyone using
OE to view the newsgroups can save it like an attachment.

---------------------

I create these keys myself & don't have to search for it on the Internet or
point the user to a file that maybe the OP doesn't look through & could be
entering absolutely anything into their registry

What is so difficult then to go into the registry, double-click a key &
change the value from 0 to 1, click ok & close the registry editor for
example?

Regarding tweak UI

I have seen it keep popping up on startup & being problematic to get rid of
back in the 98 days. Plus, as I mentioned earlier in this thread I think
tweak isn't 100% perfect & sometimes messes certain setting up. All it does
it manipulate the registry keys. If you have one registry setting, lets say
a DWORD value. What is the point of installing teak ui just to change a 0 to
a 1 or vice cersa? Makes no sense whatsoever.

If you see the answers to a lot of these posts the same few tools are
recommended all the time. Tweak UI, MSCONFIG or SYSTEM RESTORE for example.
People only have the knowledge of how to use these tools, but if they
weren't available then they wouldn't have any idea on how to fix it.
Therefore, their knowledge is lacking somewhat, isn't it?

About my registry experience:

I do one hell of a lot of regisry programming & can honestly say that I have
been working in the registry approx 5 days a week for the past 10 or so
years.

Other people could get a simular sort of understanding if they go to the
Microsoft website & look through the resource kits with every registry key
explained & most subkeys...

Around 4 years ago when I was setting up Windows 2000 for the umteenth time
after a fresh install it used to take me 3 hours or so to do the registry
tweaks I wanted. So I got fed up & wrote my own setup tool which on one
button click does more than what I used to do in 3 hours changing the
registry manually. Although I can control every registry entry via the
application. The same tool cleans my entire computer with with one button
click although I can choose which parts I want to clean. Have you ever heard
of the term "Lazy Programmer"? Why do it manually when you can automate it?
Here's another automation I did yesterday for laziness. I have 1, 305 icons
with random names & I needed to rename them all. What did I do? Correct,
knock up an application that renames them all in 2 seconds instead of
manually changing them over days. Makes sense, doesn' it?

Regarding VBS files:

I used to do quite a lot of scripting, but very rarely do it now. As you
know VBS files are powerful & can do a lot of damage very easily. Rememver
the VBS LoveLetter strain that was out many years ago? Look at the damage
that caused for such a simple script. Nowadays, I have no interest in
scripting, but have to create them for network administration purposes like
logging on scripts, simple drive mapping etc.

Strangely enough you mentioned about changing the background of the Windows
Desktop. Around 2 months ago I wrote a small application that changes the
Desktop wallpaper because a friend of mine needed something for his work as
the administrator had disabled that feature on their workstation. :))

About Kelly. I never have mentioned anything to do with her, but the Kelly's
Corner website. Why on earth are MVP's having to point someone to a reg file
on there? Its because they haven't got the knowledge to create the solution
themselves. Again, how do you know all those registry entries are 100% safe?
You don't & just because they are on a website doesn't mean to say they are
safe or 100% correct.

I am not trying to prove myself at all. I believe in doing things to 100% &
for me 99.9% isn't good enough. When you get an MVP who provides half a
solution then that its just showing them up for not knowing something that
maybe incredibly simple. There are far too many MVP's out there who really
don't have any idea & it seems that Google is their best friend, but again
that only goes to show the level of their knowledge. The best MVP I have
come across who knows his stuff is Richard Drydo & the worst is easily
Herfried. Herfied has an MVP in C# & basically never writes a single line of
code, but does a totally useless Google search which 9/10 of the time is in
the wrong language & isn't what the OP originally asked for. Should he have
an MVP - NO WAY!!!!! Another thing it proves is that there are more than one
way usually to do the task & it shows that for example Rock has to use Tweak
UI. Ken another MVP a few months ago never knew what malware stood for & I
have seen Rock, Malke & one other say something is malware when its 1) not
proved to be malicious & 2) could quite easily be adware.

Anyway. I haven't slept & I am now an hour late for going to set up one of
my MSN chat friends' wireless

Speak to you later, Curt!!
 
C

Curt Christianson

This says it all, doesn't it:

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...="Newbie+Coder"&rnum=6&hl=en#da5771bd143aba07

<quote>
"After spending so much time answering questions & not getting any reward
like an MVP I decided to stop. People like myself deserve it, but never get
the recognition"
<end quote> well boo hoo woo!


I've wasted enough of my time. I may not have the credentials, but I'm
twice the professional you will ever be, unless you grow up.

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
http://aumha.org/

Newbie Coder said:
Curt,

For your knowledge Hassan has the exe file & its testing ok, which is also
done when I tested it.

I changed the code in the WinVNC server for hassan only because he
requested
it & everyone else can use the version downloadable on the Real VNC
website.

Your last few posts has really confused me in a way because you seem to go
off into one for a reason I cannot work out.

You said yourself that you have a huge ego & why not? Maybe you are like
me
& have grown up with running Windows & supporting it in a professional
environment since the release of Windows 3.1 onwards. I cannot help it if
I
have been programming daily since 1980 & progressed through the languages
like others have or haven't, as the case maybe.

As for the registry tweak that i mentioned. This is an example of what I
mean't

Example 1)

------------------

Regedit4

[Hkey_Local_machine\bla\bla\bla\...\Run]
"MyFile"="C:\Location\File.exe"

-------------------

Then telling the OP to copy whats between the lines into notepad, then
file|save as putting double quotes around the filename & addind '.reg' to
the end of the filename. Example: "MyKey.reg" then getting the user to set
the filter to all files & then click the save button

Example 2:

Create the registry file myself, zip it & add it to the post so anyone
using
OE to view the newsgroups can save it like an attachment.

---------------------

I create these keys myself & don't have to search for it on the Internet
or
point the user to a file that maybe the OP doesn't look through & could be
entering absolutely anything into their registry

What is so difficult then to go into the registry, double-click a key &
change the value from 0 to 1, click ok & close the registry editor for
example?

Regarding tweak UI

I have seen it keep popping up on startup & being problematic to get rid
of
back in the 98 days. Plus, as I mentioned earlier in this thread I think
tweak isn't 100% perfect & sometimes messes certain setting up. All it
does
it manipulate the registry keys. If you have one registry setting, lets
say
a DWORD value. What is the point of installing teak ui just to change a 0
to
a 1 or vice cersa? Makes no sense whatsoever.

If you see the answers to a lot of these posts the same few tools are
recommended all the time. Tweak UI, MSCONFIG or SYSTEM RESTORE for
example.
People only have the knowledge of how to use these tools, but if they
weren't available then they wouldn't have any idea on how to fix it.
Therefore, their knowledge is lacking somewhat, isn't it?

About my registry experience:

I do one hell of a lot of regisry programming & can honestly say that I
have
been working in the registry approx 5 days a week for the past 10 or so
years.

Other people could get a simular sort of understanding if they go to the
Microsoft website & look through the resource kits with every registry key
explained & most subkeys...

Around 4 years ago when I was setting up Windows 2000 for the umteenth
time
after a fresh install it used to take me 3 hours or so to do the registry
tweaks I wanted. So I got fed up & wrote my own setup tool which on one
button click does more than what I used to do in 3 hours changing the
registry manually. Although I can control every registry entry via the
application. The same tool cleans my entire computer with with one button
click although I can choose which parts I want to clean. Have you ever
heard
of the term "Lazy Programmer"? Why do it manually when you can automate
it?
Here's another automation I did yesterday for laziness. I have 1, 305
icons
with random names & I needed to rename them all. What did I do? Correct,
knock up an application that renames them all in 2 seconds instead of
manually changing them over days. Makes sense, doesn' it?

Regarding VBS files:

I used to do quite a lot of scripting, but very rarely do it now. As you
know VBS files are powerful & can do a lot of damage very easily. Rememver
the VBS LoveLetter strain that was out many years ago? Look at the damage
that caused for such a simple script. Nowadays, I have no interest in
scripting, but have to create them for network administration purposes
like
logging on scripts, simple drive mapping etc.

Strangely enough you mentioned about changing the background of the
Windows
Desktop. Around 2 months ago I wrote a small application that changes the
Desktop wallpaper because a friend of mine needed something for his work
as
the administrator had disabled that feature on their workstation. :))

About Kelly. I never have mentioned anything to do with her, but the
Kelly's
Corner website. Why on earth are MVP's having to point someone to a reg
file
on there? Its because they haven't got the knowledge to create the
solution
themselves. Again, how do you know all those registry entries are 100%
safe?
You don't & just because they are on a website doesn't mean to say they
are
safe or 100% correct.

I am not trying to prove myself at all. I believe in doing things to 100%
&
for me 99.9% isn't good enough. When you get an MVP who provides half a
solution then that its just showing them up for not knowing something that
maybe incredibly simple. There are far too many MVP's out there who really
don't have any idea & it seems that Google is their best friend, but again
that only goes to show the level of their knowledge. The best MVP I have
come across who knows his stuff is Richard Drydo & the worst is easily
Herfried. Herfied has an MVP in C# & basically never writes a single line
of
code, but does a totally useless Google search which 9/10 of the time is
in
the wrong language & isn't what the OP originally asked for. Should he
have
an MVP - NO WAY!!!!! Another thing it proves is that there are more than
one
way usually to do the task & it shows that for example Rock has to use
Tweak
UI. Ken another MVP a few months ago never knew what malware stood for & I
have seen Rock, Malke & one other say something is malware when its 1) not
proved to be malicious & 2) could quite easily be adware.

Anyway. I haven't slept & I am now an hour late for going to set up one of
my MSN chat friends' wireless

Speak to you later, Curt!!
 
H

Hassan

Thanks so much for all your help Newbie Coder and a big thank you to Lindsay
too who helped Newbie out in testing that it works. Isnt testing important ?
;)

The app works like a charm.
 
G

Guest

@ newbie coder, can I please get a copy of that version you complied,
please.. I don't know anyone that has the knowledge to do what you did.. I
found an old version of 4.1.1 on the net with no icon, but i would really
love to get ahold of 4.2.9 with no icon!! Thanks if you can help!!
 

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