Regedit help?

[Kenny]

Using XP Pro but doesn't seem to be an XP Registry group.
Received the following to hopefully fix a floppy problem.

"Try this solution for your Floppy drive problems
I actually found a solution from Microsoft. To resolve the problem I had
to use regedit to open the registry look for
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\
{4D36E980-E32511CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}. Delete the
UpperFilters (and LowerFilters if any) Restart PC and all
is well with my floppy drive"

There are 24 sub folders all with that same number, some of them have sub
sub folders! How do I find and delete these filters whatever they are?

 

[Oli Restorick [MVP]]

Do you have a reference for the knowledge-base article where you found that
information?

Oli

 

[Oli Restorick [MVP]]

Do you have a reference for the knowledge-base article where you found that
information?

Oli

 

[Kenny]

Silly me, there IS only one sub folder, not 24, but I still don't know about
these filters?

 

[Kenny]

Silly me, there IS only one sub folder, not 24, but I still don't know about
these filters?

 

[Mark V]

Using XP Pro but doesn't seem to be an XP Registry group.
Received the following to hopefully fix a floppy problem.

"Try this solution for your Floppy drive problems
I actually found a solution from Microsoft. To resolve the problem
I had to use regedit to open the registry look for
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\
{4D36E980-E32511CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}. Delete the
UpperFilters (and LowerFilters if any) Restart PC and all
is well with my floppy drive"

There are 24 sub folders all with that same number, some of them
have sub sub folders! How do I find and delete these filters
whatever they are?

Only one of them will have
"Class"="DiskDrive" and "UpperFilters"/"LowerFilters"

Please post the KBA number though as I do not recall this
recomendation for Floppy Drive devices.

 

[Mark V]

Using XP Pro but doesn't seem to be an XP Registry group.
Received the following to hopefully fix a floppy problem.

"Try this solution for your Floppy drive problems
I actually found a solution from Microsoft. To resolve the problem
I had to use regedit to open the registry look for
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\
{4D36E980-E32511CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}. Delete the
UpperFilters (and LowerFilters if any) Restart PC and all
is well with my floppy drive"

There are 24 sub folders all with that same number, some of them
have sub sub folders! How do I find and delete these filters
whatever they are?

Only one of them will have
"Class"="DiskDrive" and "UpperFilters"/"LowerFilters"

Please post the KBA number though as I do not recall this
recomendation for Floppy Drive devices.

 

[Kenny]

Don't have a KB #, the advice was passed on to me. This:
http://tinyurl.com/llkb
describes the problem I'm trying to fix. Many people are having it, MS are
aware of it but seem unwilling or unable to fix it! Could it be they're
trying to force out the floppy by making it unreliable in XP?

 

[Kenny]

Don't have a KB #, the advice was passed on to me. This:
http://tinyurl.com/llkb
describes the problem I'm trying to fix. Many people are having it, MS are
aware of it but seem unwilling or unable to fix it! Could it be they're
trying to force out the floppy by making it unreliable in XP?

 

[Mark V]

Don't have a KB #, the advice was passed on to me. This:
http://tinyurl.com/llkb
describes the problem I'm trying to fix. Many people are having
it, MS are aware of it but seem unwilling or unable to fix it!
Could it be they're trying to force out the floppy by making it
unreliable in XP?

Your trouble is a W98 formated 1.44 MB diskette cannot be Disk Copy'd
in XP right? And/or formatted (1.44)?

That's sad as this was an issue in NT4 IIRC too. I have nothing
additional on this topic right now and don't use XP.
I'll try to keep an eye out though. Did you try DISKCOPY.COM at a
cmd prompt too? As you know the boot sector is different under
W9x/NTx format.

Or is it the multi-mode OEM FDDrive and drivers? FDDs are cheap. If
this is the case, replace it and run with the standard Windows
drivers.

 

[Mark V]

Don't have a KB #, the advice was passed on to me. This:
http://tinyurl.com/llkb
describes the problem I'm trying to fix. Many people are having
it, MS are aware of it but seem unwilling or unable to fix it!
Could it be they're trying to force out the floppy by making it
unreliable in XP?

Your trouble is a W98 formated 1.44 MB diskette cannot be Disk Copy'd
in XP right? And/or formatted (1.44)?

That's sad as this was an issue in NT4 IIRC too. I have nothing
additional on this topic right now and don't use XP.
I'll try to keep an eye out though. Did you try DISKCOPY.COM at a
cmd prompt too? As you know the boot sector is different under
W9x/NTx format.

Or is it the multi-mode OEM FDDrive and drivers? FDDs are cheap. If
this is the case, replace it and run with the standard Windows
drivers.

 

[Kenny]

The college I attend has a mixture of XP & Win2K PC's. Some of my fellow
students use Win98 at home. Main problem is that files saved to floppy
under 2Kor 98 can't be read in XP, receive message "disk unformatted, would
you like to do it now". Haven't yet properly tried out the suggestion of
installing the Via 3 mode drivers under XP. I still think MS should fix it
but they don't seem inclined to.

 

[Kenny]

The college I attend has a mixture of XP & Win2K PC's. Some of my fellow
students use Win98 at home. Main problem is that files saved to floppy
under 2Kor 98 can't be read in XP, receive message "disk unformatted, would
you like to do it now". Haven't yet properly tried out the suggestion of
installing the Via 3 mode drivers under XP. I still think MS should fix it
but they don't seem inclined to.

 

[Bob I]

In Win2k the problem seems to mainly be that the floppy has what I will
call a "sloppy format" a flag doesn't get set and so Win2K thinks that
it isn't formated. Formating the floppy in the Windows 2000 PC sets the
flag and then all is good. After windows 2000 formats it it can be read
at all PC's including Windows98

 

[Bob I]

In Win2k the problem seems to mainly be that the floppy has what I will
call a "sloppy format" a flag doesn't get set and so Win2K thinks that
it isn't formated. Formating the floppy in the Windows 2000 PC sets the
flag and then all is good. After windows 2000 formats it it can be read
at all PC's including Windows98

 

[Mark V]

In Win2k the problem seems to mainly be that the floppy has what I
will call a "sloppy format" a flag doesn't get set and so Win2K
thinks that it isn't formated. Formating the floppy in the Windows
2000 PC sets the flag and then all is good. After windows 2000
formats it it can be read at all PC's including Windows98

So one recommendation for these students is to format a bunch of
floppies in NTx and take them home to use with W9x. I assume that
will work all the time... (No XP here and no longer any W9x).

 

[Mark V]

In Win2k the problem seems to mainly be that the floppy has what I
will call a "sloppy format" a flag doesn't get set and so Win2K
thinks that it isn't formated. Formating the floppy in the Windows
2000 PC sets the flag and then all is good. After windows 2000
formats it it can be read at all PC's including Windows98

So one recommendation for these students is to format a bunch of
floppies in NTx and take them home to use with W9x. I assume that
will work all the time... (No XP here and no longer any W9x).

 

[Mark V]

In Win2k the problem seems to mainly be that the floppy has what I
will call a "sloppy format" a flag doesn't get set and so Win2K
thinks that it isn't formated. Formating the floppy in the Windows
2000 PC sets the flag and then all is good. After windows 2000
formats it it can be read at all PC's including Windows98

[ ]

Interesting. Bob, do you have any details or references? Not doubting
it, just curious as to the particulars.

And I am guessing you meant that W9x does the "sloppy format".

I seem to recall (perhaps poorly) that there was a problem in W95 and
some different problem in NT4 SP0...but it's been a long time.

 

[Mark V]

In Win2k the problem seems to mainly be that the floppy has what I
will call a "sloppy format" a flag doesn't get set and so Win2K
thinks that it isn't formated. Formating the floppy in the Windows
2000 PC sets the flag and then all is good. After windows 2000
formats it it can be read at all PC's including Windows98

[ ]

Interesting. Bob, do you have any details or references? Not doubting
it, just curious as to the particulars.

And I am guessing you meant that W9x does the "sloppy format".

I seem to recall (perhaps poorly) that there was a problem in W95 and
some different problem in NT4 SP0...but it's been a long time.

 

[Bob I]

There is documentation on it "out there" that I read a couple years ago
about the "flag" bit. We had found the "fix" previously by observing
that whole boxes of new floppys sent to the field (DOS and Win95 PC's)
in boxes would be unreadable on the Windows 2000 PC's in the office, BUT
floppys formatted at the office(on Win2K) and then sent out ALWAYS came
back readable. And that's what I know of it.

In microsoft.public.win2000.registry Bob I wrote:

In Win2k the problem seems to mainly be that the floppy has what I
will call a "sloppy format" a flag doesn't get set and so Win2K
thinks that it isn't formated. Formating the floppy in the Windows
2000 PC sets the flag and then all is good. After windows 2000
formats it it can be read at all PC's including Windows98

[ ]

Interesting. Bob, do you have any details or references? Not doubting
it, just curious as to the particulars.

And I am guessing you meant that W9x does the "sloppy format".

I seem to recall (perhaps poorly) that there was a problem in W95 and
some different problem in NT4 SP0...but it's been a long time.