RegCure - Worth it?

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Bill Watt

Here is what my friend is asking.
____________________quote__________________

Bill...I think my one-year deal with RegCure is about to terminate
and I would appreciate your advice. I scan about twice a month and
RegCure finds hundreds of so-called errors and corrects them. But
frankly, I can't detect any improvement in the operation of the
computer. Do you think it's worth the twenty-some bucks it costs to
continue this program?
__________________________end quote____________________

I have searched the group. I'm not familiar with the program.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
 
J

JS

Bill Watt said:
Here is what my friend is asking.
____________________quote__________________

Bill...I think my one-year deal with RegCure is about to terminate
and I would appreciate your advice. I scan about twice a month and
RegCure finds hundreds of so-called errors and corrects them. But
frankly, I can't detect any improvement in the operation of the
computer. Do you think it's worth the twenty-some bucks it costs to
continue this program?
__________________________end quote____________________

I have searched the group. I'm not familiar with the program.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/

Not a good idea.to renew, just tossing money out the window.

Bet he could run it every day and it would find so called problems to fix.

If the above isn't enough to convince you then read this:
AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
 
B

Bill Watt

Reply at end.

Not a good idea.to renew, just tossing money out the window.

Bet he could run it every day and it would find so called problems to fix.

If the above isn't enough to convince you then read this:
AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099

_______________________________________-

JS,

Thanks for the info.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
 
V

VanguardLH

Bill said:
Here is what my friend is asking.
____________________quote__________________

Bill...I think my one-year deal with RegCure is about to terminate
and I would appreciate your advice. I scan about twice a month and
RegCure finds hundreds of so-called errors and corrects them. But
frankly, I can't detect any improvement in the operation of the
computer. Do you think it's worth the twenty-some bucks it costs to
continue this program?
__________________________end quote____________________

I have searched the group. I'm not familiar with the program.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/

If you can't answer your friend's answer using your OWN advice based on
your own research and experience, tell your friend how to ask here for
themself. Stop plagarizing the opinions of others as your own.

Also, you provide no information regarding the expertise of your
"friend" regarding their knowledge of what is the registry, how to edit
the registry, how to back it up, how to restore it, ability to discover
interdependencies between entries, and what they know how to do if the
registry becomes corrupt and they can no longer boot the OS. Since you
give absolutely no information regarding the friend's expertise, the
assumption is that your friend is a boob and as such is a user that
should never touch the registry themself or through any utility. Just
because someone can read a Dummies book on heart surgery doesn't mean
they can do the job.

Did you ask your friend any of the following questions?

- What is currently wrong or failing with the registry?
- What convinced you that the registry needs to be "cleaned" up?
- What constitutes the "cleaning" actions?
- What do you expect to gain from the cleanup?
- What are you going to do if the registry changes hose over
your computer since a restore may not be possible?
- What is your recovery strategy from the registry changes?

*_Why the uneducated or lazy should never use registry cleaners_*

If YOU are not adept at *manually* editing the registry, don't use a
tool that you don't understand regarding its proposed changes.
Regardless of relinquishing the task to software, YOU are the final
authority in allowing it to make the changes. Any registry cleaner that
does not request for YOU to give permission to make its proposed changes
along with listing each proposed change should be discarded.

Do you have a backup & restore plan in place? When (and not if) the
registry cleaner corrupts your registry and when you can no longer boot
into Windows, just how are you going to restore that OS partition so it
is usable again? Even if you use a registry cleaner that provides for
backups of its changes so you can revert back to the prior state, how
are you going to perform that restore if you cannot boot the OS after
hosing over its registry? What about entries in the registry that look
to be orphaned under the current OS load instance but are used under a
different OS environment? You delete what looks orphaned only to find
out that they are required under a different environment.

Say there was an unusually high amount of orphaned entries in your
registry, like 4MB. By deleting the orphaned entries, you would speed
up how long it takes Windows to load the registry's files when it starts
up - by all of maybe 1 second. Oooh, aaah. All that risk of modifying
the registry to save maybe a second, or less, during the Windows
startup. Most folks that clean the registry end up deleting only 10KB,
or less. They are doing nothing to improve their Windows load time.
Since the registry is only read from the memory copy of it, and since
memory is random access, there is no difference to read one byte of the
registry (in memory) from the another byte in the registry (also in
memory). The extra data in memory for orphaned entries has no effect on
the time to retrieve items from the memory copy of the registry because
orphaned entries are never retrieved (if they were, they aren't
orphaned).

Cleaning the registry will NOT improve performance in reading from the
memory copy of the registry. The reduced size of the registry's .dat
files might reduce the load time of Windows by all of a second and
probably much less. And you want to risk the stability of your OS for
inconsequential changes to its registry? The same boobs that get
suckered into these registry cleanup "tools" are the same ones that get
suckered into the memory defragment "tools".

A registry cleaner should only be used if you by yourself can correctly
cleanup the registry. The cleaner is just a tool to automate the same
process but you should know every change that it intends to make and
understand each of those changes. After all, and regardless of the
stagnant expertise that is hard coded into the utility, *YOU* are the
final authority in what registry changes are performed whether you do it
manually or with a utility. If YOU do not understand the proposed
change (which requires the product actually divulge the proposed change
before committing that change), how will you know whether or not to
allow that change?
 
G

GTS

As others have noted, registry cleaners are best avoided. That being said,
RegCure is a particularly bad one. The program is a borderline scam. I've
serviced several computers in the last year that were severely damaged by
it.
 
B

Bill Watt

Reply at end.

If you can't answer your friend's answer using your OWN advice based on
your own research and experience, tell your friend how to ask here for
themself. Stop plagarizing the opinions of others as your own.

Also, you provide no information regarding the expertise of your
"friend" regarding their knowledge of what is the registry, how to edit
the registry, how to back it up, how to restore it, ability to discover
interdependencies between entries, and what they know how to do if the
registry becomes corrupt and they can no longer boot the OS. Since you
give absolutely no information regarding the friend's expertise, the
assumption is that your friend is a boob and as such is a user that
should never touch the registry themself or through any utility. Just
because someone can read a Dummies book on heart surgery doesn't mean
they can do the job.

Did you ask your friend any of the following questions?

- What is currently wrong or failing with the registry?
- What convinced you that the registry needs to be "cleaned" up?
- What constitutes the "cleaning" actions?
- What do you expect to gain from the cleanup?
- What are you going to do if the registry changes hose over
your computer since a restore may not be possible?
- What is your recovery strategy from the registry changes?

*_Why the uneducated or lazy should never use registry cleaners_*

If YOU are not adept at *manually* editing the registry, don't use a
tool that you don't understand regarding its proposed changes.
Regardless of relinquishing the task to software, YOU are the final
authority in allowing it to make the changes. Any registry cleaner that
does not request for YOU to give permission to make its proposed changes
along with listing each proposed change should be discarded.

Do you have a backup & restore plan in place? When (and not if) the
registry cleaner corrupts your registry and when you can no longer boot
into Windows, just how are you going to restore that OS partition so it
is usable again? Even if you use a registry cleaner that provides for
backups of its changes so you can revert back to the prior state, how
are you going to perform that restore if you cannot boot the OS after
hosing over its registry? What about entries in the registry that look
to be orphaned under the current OS load instance but are used under a
different OS environment? You delete what looks orphaned only to find
out that they are required under a different environment.

Say there was an unusually high amount of orphaned entries in your
registry, like 4MB. By deleting the orphaned entries, you would speed
up how long it takes Windows to load the registry's files when it starts
up - by all of maybe 1 second. Oooh, aaah. All that risk of modifying
the registry to save maybe a second, or less, during the Windows
startup. Most folks that clean the registry end up deleting only 10KB,
or less. They are doing nothing to improve their Windows load time.
Since the registry is only read from the memory copy of it, and since
memory is random access, there is no difference to read one byte of the
registry (in memory) from the another byte in the registry (also in
memory). The extra data in memory for orphaned entries has no effect on
the time to retrieve items from the memory copy of the registry because
orphaned entries are never retrieved (if they were, they aren't
orphaned).

Cleaning the registry will NOT improve performance in reading from the
memory copy of the registry. The reduced size of the registry's .dat
files might reduce the load time of Windows by all of a second and
probably much less. And you want to risk the stability of your OS for
inconsequential changes to its registry? The same boobs that get
suckered into these registry cleanup "tools" are the same ones that get
suckered into the memory defragment "tools".

A registry cleaner should only be used if you by yourself can correctly
cleanup the registry. The cleaner is just a tool to automate the same
process but you should know every change that it intends to make and
understand each of those changes. After all, and regardless of the
stagnant expertise that is hard coded into the utility, *YOU* are the
final authority in what registry changes are performed whether you do it
manually or with a utility. If YOU do not understand the proposed
change (which requires the product actually divulge the proposed change
before committing that change), how will you know whether or not to
allow that change?
_______________________________________________________

My friend is NOT computer savvy. I am not familiar with the program.
He has had no problems. He is not familiar with the newsgroups.

I quoted JS's reply in it's entirety to him. I did not take any
credit nor did I offer any advice other than JS is a knowledgeable
helper in the groups and I respect his opinion.

Hope you feel better tomorrow.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
 
B

Bill Watt

As others have noted, registry cleaners are best avoided. That being said,
RegCure is a particularly bad one. The program is a borderline scam. I've
serviced several computers in the last year that were severely damaged by
it.

Thanks

Regards,

Bill Watt
Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
 

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