Recommend- a printer - for photos? (Don't want HP logo on back)

[Steve m...]

I just bought a new HP Allinone printer that has seperate ink carts. The
print head is not part of the cartridge.
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...rderflow=1&product_code=Q5863A#ABA&catLevel=1
Big URL.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P51312E2D
Small URL

Steve

 

[Stanley Krute]

A few years ago any suggestion of using color laser printers for

photographic copies was easily dismisssed: quality of output rendered them
unusable. Is that still the case?

Yes. Even on a $60,000 Xerox 6060, that my friendly neighborhood
printshop uses to produce posters for me, the quality is nowhere near
what my Epsons produce.

I'm thinking in particular of the Konica-Minolta 2450, claiming "Up to
9600 x 600 dpi-class with Photo ART".

I've got a 2450. Great photos, for a color laser printer. You do need to
add memory to it. I also profiled mine with PrintFix Pro.

But: still: nowhere near a great inkjet photo printer.

-- stan

 

[Frank ess]

Yes. Even on a $60,000 Xerox 6060, that my friendly neighborhood
printshop uses to produce posters for me, the quality is nowhere
near
what my Epsons produce.


I've got a 2450. Great photos, for a color laser printer. You do
need
to add memory to it. I also profiled mine with PrintFix Pro.

But: still: nowhere near a great inkjet photo printer.

-- stan

Thanks, stan.

Still not ready for prime time, it seems.

 

[me]

A few years ago any suggestion of using color laser printers for
photographic copies was easily dismisssed: quality of output rendered
them unusable. Is that still the case?

It depends what you want. I have been using colour lasers for about six
years now, the vast majority of the output has been on plain paper, and
is more than adequate, all right it doesn't try and spoof a photo lab
print as inkjets will do with scarily expensive paper, but the laser
technique provides a clean crisp output (generally matt).

At the higher end of the scale I have an old (7/8 years) Canon CLC (950
essentially the same as a 700 from 1994, so 12 year old technology)
machine (about $20,000 new) and its output (apart from the fact it is
playing up) is still better than the current CLC 2620 (about $10,000?)
In the past week I have had samples for the CLC 2620 and the ir2570ci
(about $7,000) and there doesn't really seem to be any quality
difference between them. (The current equivalent to the CLC 950 would be
the 1180 which I think still weighs in around the $20,000 mark)

Uninterestingly enough, I wandered into Staples the other day and they
had (I think) a CLC2100 or 3200, as their commercial colour copier, the
previous model to the 2620.

At the lower end the first colour laser I had was a QMS 2200 (first one
to dip below the £1,000) and that was more than adequate. It preferred
most of its output to be on plain paper, but would accept about 10% on
glossy laser paper. Running costs were higher for this.

 

[Otto Sykora]

I am using just simple 'no name' photopaper, packed by our swiss
suppermarket chain, no real brand on it.
What ever I try with my photosmart 2575, the picts are exactly the
same as on the HP original paper, so I have decided not to bother abt
the different thing like HP photo.. HP photo plus .. etc

 

[Bob Headrick]

I am using just simple 'no name' photopaper, packed by our swiss
suppermarket chain, no real brand on it.
What ever I try with my photosmart 2575, the picts are exactly the
same as on the HP original paper, so I have decided not to bother abt
the different thing like HP photo.. HP photo plus .. etc.

While they may look the same after printing, you will probably find that
the lightfastness is much different. See Henry Wilhelm's lightfastness
site at: http://www.wilhelm-research.com/, in particular page five of
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/hardcopy/WIR_AftermarketTests2006_05.pdf
where you can look at the lightfastness ratings of various papers
compared to the HP solution.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging

 

[Michael J. Mahon]

While they may look the same after printing, you will probably find that
the lightfastness is much different. See Henry Wilhelm's lightfastness
site at: http://www.wilhelm-research.com/, in particular page five of
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/hardcopy/WIR_AftermarketTests2006_05.pdf
where you can look at the lightfastness ratings of various papers
compared to the HP solution.

I would find this much more convincing if it were done by Consumer
Reports rather than by an industry trade group.

-michael

Home page: http://members.aol.com/MJMahon/

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it is seriously underused."

 

[J. Clarke]

I would find this much more convincing if it were done by Consumer
Reports rather than by an industry trade group.

Consumer reports does fine at telling you which toaster is least likely to
burn the toast. When it comes to a matter as technical as the archival
durability of various imaging materials they are so far out of their core
competency that one may as well just put samples up on a dartboard and
throw a dart blindfolded.

And why would an industry trade group have a vested interest in supporting
one manufacturer's product over another? If it did that it would find
itself a one-member trade group right quick.

 

[Kevin Agard]

Thanks, but I'm in England. I'll look around..

There are Costcos in the UK.

 

[Calum Benson]

There are Costcos in the UK.

However, due to their association with the culpable homicide of one of
our finest singing/songwriting talents of the last 20 years, your
conscience may ask you to look elsewhere.

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/ask-jean-maccoll.shtml)

 

[Michael J. Mahon]

However, due to their association with the culpable homicide of one of
our finest singing/songwriting talents of the last 20 years, your
conscience may ask you to look elsewhere.

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/ask-jean-maccoll.shtml)

What? Costco is a very ethical, customer-oriented, publicly traded
US firm, with international operations.

What, exactly, is the claimed connection?

-michael

Home page: http://members.aol.com/MJMahon/

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it is seriously underused."

 

[J. Clarke]

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/ask-jean-maccoll.shtml)

What? Costco is a very ethical, customer-oriented, publicly traded
US firm, with international operations.

What, exactly, is the claimed connection?

Guillermo Nova, who holds the Mexican franchise for Costco, was out in his
boat and it collided with Kirsty MacColl while she was diving. The
helmsman was charged and let off with what in the US would be considered a
light fine. How this was Costco's fault is a mystery to me.

 

[eyalnevo]

I subscribe to only 2 groups- Photography and Mac. To the very last
post I was sure I was on the photography group. What in the world does
any of this have to do with Mac?

 

[Edwin Pawlowski]

I subscribe to only 2 groups- Photography and Mac. To the very last
post I was sure I was on the photography group. What in the world does
any of this have to do with Mac?

Northing. If you don't subscribe to comp.periphs.printers yet you post
here.