Recent Vista updates --> Bluescreens

[wwallick]

After the recent, six I believe, updates, I started getting random
"Bluescreens" in Vista Ultimate.

At first I thought I was having memory problems, but after doing a
system restore back to before the updates, there were no more
bluescreens.

So I redid the updates and got the random bluescreens again.

After another system restore, I have no more bluescreens.

Now I'm afraid to do any more updates.

I guess "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" applies here?

Any ideas?

WLW

 

[Alias]

After the recent, six I believe, updates, I started getting random
"Bluescreens" in Vista Ultimate.

At first I thought I was having memory problems, but after doing a
system restore back to before the updates, there were no more
bluescreens.

So I redid the updates and got the random bluescreens again.

After another system restore, I have no more bluescreens.

Now I'm afraid to do any more updates.

I guess "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" applies here?

Any ideas?

WLW

Did you disable your anti virus auto scan before installing the updates?

 

[Kerry Brown]

Can you post the details from the "bluescreens". There are very specific
error messages with numbers associated with each screen. These can usually
be used to at least point the way to the cause of the error.

 

[Alias]

Did you disable your anti virus auto scan before installing the updates?

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Alias
To email me, remove shoes

Hi Alias,
Do you normally disable yours prior to installing MS updates?
I do not disable my anti virus prior to install windows update? I have
had no problem so far.
Now I said it I may get problem?
So what is the correct procedure?

Need or NO need to disable anti-virus scan prior windows updates?
snow

I disable my anti virus real time scan before installing *anything*.

 

[dennis@home]

I disable my anti virus real time scan before installing *anything*.

Including viruses?
Apart from maybe being a bit quicker (but probably not) what positive
benefits does it have?

 

[Alias]

Including viruses?

Of course not.

Apart from maybe being a bit quicker (but probably not) what positive
benefits does it have?

If you want your AV to check everything while you're installing
something, be my guest. Sooner or later, it will come back to haunt you.

 

[Alias]

I disable my anti virus real time scan before installing *anything*.

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Alias
To email me, remove shoes

Hi Alias,
How is that going to be possible to many of us who are not that computer
wizards!!
Most of us with VISTA have selected for the automatic windows updates to
install at a chosen time.
This takes place behind the scene without the user even knowing that the
updtates being installed.

How could these majority of the VISTA users go about the disabling
virus-scan prior to install latest microsoft's windows updates?

Any suggestion?
snow

Always do Windows/Office Updates manually. I'm not sure why Microsoft
has the auto update with auto install. I would never, ever, choose that
option.

 

[dennis@home]

Of course not.


If you want your AV to check everything while you're installing something,
be my guest. Sooner or later, it will come back to haunt you.

How?

 

[KickinChicken]

Get a good AV program like NOD32, and you will have no need to disable it
during updates.

Old AV programs were always infamous for reeking havoc on updates, that is
why many people simply disable AV...out of habit.

Norton and McAfee are viruses you buy, avoid them.

 

[Alias]

How?

By screwing up the install, of course! Have you ever noticed how some
programs ask you if you have anything running before you install? Why do
you think that is?

 

[KickinChicken]

I DO NOT disable NOD32 when I apply updates.
If I had Norton or McAfee, I would disable them.
---actually I would never install Norton or McAfee.
So, it depends on what AV you use.

Just giving you the idea that better AV programs don't need to be disabled
(3 years using NOD32, never a problem.)

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

I DO NOT disable NOD32 when I apply updates.
If I had Norton or McAfee, I would disable them.
---actually I would never install Norton or McAfee.
So, it depends on what AV you use.

Just giving you the idea that better AV programs don't need to be disabled
(3 years using NOD32, never a problem.)

Does NOD32 disable and replace Defender? I use Symantec Antivirus
Corporate, which is actually very good, and nothing like the Norton consumer
range. This disables and replaces Defender, and was wondering if NOD32 does
the same.

ss.

 

[KickinChicken]

No

Does NOD32 disable and replace Defender? I use Symantec Antivirus
Corporate, which is actually very good, and nothing like the Norton
consumer range. This disables and replaces Defender, and was wondering if
NOD32 does the same.

ss.

 

[dennis@home]

8<

By screwing up the install, of course! Have you ever noticed how some
programs ask you if you have anything running before you install? Why do
you think that is?

For some urban myth.
I never disable avast when I do an install even if the program says I
should.
What sort of program needs to disable AV software?

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

No

'No, sir', you top-posting arsewipe!

ss.

 

[Peter Foldes]

I am with Alias on this. Disabling your AV,Anti Spam, Anti Phising is a good idea. It will install without having the previous running but it is a very dangerous way of installing any Updates ,Hotfixes etc to the OS. The result can be and most likely will be that the install will probably get corrupted and in a way that it is not noticed until it is called on.

This is a proven fact with many posters . Want to take a look in the Windows Update and other similar groups.

 

[KickinChicken]

F-You...Only little tranny bisexuals post from the bottom.
I hear u like it in the bottom.
U and your symantec garbage...you know nothing.

 

[wwallick]

Can you post the details from the "bluescreens". There are very specific
error messages with numbers associated with each screen. These can usually
be used to at least point the way to the cause of the error.

First, I run NOD32 and no, I have never disabled the antivirus, etc.
software that is running.

I do get messages with numbers, etc. each time and there are
statements that the dump and txt files are located in either my "user"
directory or the "windows\temp" directory. When I go to look, they are
never there.?

I will start monitoring the "update" group.

Thanks

WLW

 

[HeyBub]

For some urban myth.
I never disable avast when I do an install even if the program says I
should.
What sort of program needs to disable AV software?

Those that make registry entries.

 

[dennis@home]

Those that make registry entries.

I have installed programs (including java, openoffice, office 2003 and 2007,
vs, sql server, civ 4) that do that with the AV turned on and there is not a
problem.