Recent pop up

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Guest

We just started receiving a pop up labeled "Messenger service" that claims we
have 55 critical system errors and should immediately go to:
www.regfixit.com and install registry update.

We ran all of our anti virus software and nothing came up.

1. Is this just a pop up to sell us something we don't need?
2. How do we get rid of it?
 
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David H. Lipman

From: "Donny Broome" <[email protected]>

| It's probably some type of spyware infection. Your AV software won't catch
| it, necessarily. The page below details several fine products that might
| help.
| http://www.broomeman.com/spyware/
|

No Donny. He indicated the windows box was entitled "Messenger service". This is
indicative of a NetBIOS Pop-Up such as by using the "Net Send" utility and switch.
 
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David H. Lipman

From: "dave" <[email protected]>

| We just started receiving a pop up labeled "Messenger service" that claims we
| have 55 critical system errors and should immediately go to:
| www.regfixit.com and install registry update.
|
| We ran all of our anti virus software and nothing came up.
|
| 1. Is this just a pop up to sell us something we don't need?
| 2. How do we get rid of it?
|

This is a NetBIOS Pop-Up spam message received via the Messenger Service.

Open a Command Prompt and type the following commands...

sc stop Messenger
sc config Messenger start= disabled

It also means that you MS Networking is open to the Internet.

If you are connected to Broadband Internet I strongly suggest a Cable/DSL Router such as the
Linksys BEFSR41. If you had this in place, you would NOT have received these Pop-Ups.

As always I suggest blocking both TCP and UDP ports 135 ~ 139 and 445 on *any* SOHO Router.
This will completely block out these NetBIOS messages and block hackers and Internet worms
from attacking your PC.

I also suggest that you install WinXP SP2. It would have disabled the Messenger Service and
provided the FireWall and other security measures.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

dave said:
We just started receiving a pop up labeled "Messenger service" that
claims we have 55 critical system errors and should immediately go to:
www.regfixit.com and install registry update.

We ran all of our anti virus software and nothing came up.
1. Is this just a pop up to sell us something we don't need?

Yes.


2. How do we get rid of it?


You are not running a firewall., which is why you get messenger service
popups. But the popups are the least of your problem. Without a firewall,
you are vulnerable to all sorts of malware.

Enable the Windows firewall immediately, or better, choose oneof the more
capable third-party firewalls.
 
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David H. Lipman

From: "Plato" <|@|.|>

|
| Yes.
||
| http://www.bootdisk.com/xptop20.htm#3
|

I looked a the University of VA directions...

This is much easier.

Open a Command Prompt and type the following commands...

sc stop Messenger
sc config Messenger start= disabled

They are also incorrect about Win98/ME
They say.. "Windows Messenger Service cannot be disabled"

Not True ! Don't load; WINPOPUP.EXE which is not loaded automatically.
 
G

Guest

Messenger service not is windows messenger and msn messenger, you not need it.
install microsoft antispyware, and use a firewall like norton or SP2
 
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Bruce Chambers

dave said:
We just started receiving a pop up labeled "Messenger service" that claims we
have 55 critical system errors and should immediately go to:
www.regfixit.com and install registry update.

We ran all of our anti virus software and nothing came up.

1. Is this just a pop up to sell us something we don't need?
2. How do we get rid of it?


It's a scam, plain and simple. It's from a very unscrupulous
"business." They're trying to sell you patches that Microsoft provides
free-of-charge, and using a very intrusive means of advertising. It's
also demonstrating that your PC is very unsecure.

This type of spam has become quite common over the past couple of
years, and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It
demonstrates that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised
by these specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit,
you most definitely open to other threats, such as the Blaster,
Welchia, and Sasser Worms that still haunt the Internet. Install and
use a decent, properly configured firewall. (Merely disabling the
messenger service, as some people recommend, only hides the symptom,
and does little or nothing to truly secure your machine.) And
ignoring or just "putting up with" the security gap represented by
these messages is particularly foolish.

Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893

Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904

Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Whichever firewall you decide upon, be sure to ensure UDP ports 135,
137, and 138 and TCP ports 135, 139, and 445 are all blocked. You
may also disable Inbound NetBIOS over TCP/IP). You'll have
to follow the instructions from firewall's manufacturer for the
specific steps.

You can test your firewall at:

Symantec Security Check
http://security.symantec.com/ssc/vr_main.asp?langid=ie&venid=sym&plfid=23&pkj=GPVHGBYNCJEIMXQKCDT

Security Scan - Sygate Online Services
http://www.sygatetech.com/

Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to computer
security. The real problem is not the messenger service pop-ups;
they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by acting as
a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer, and
you've been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful?

Additionally, manual removal instructions for the most common
varieties of scumware are available here:

PC Hell Spyware and Adware Removal Help
http://www.pchell.com/support/spyware.shtml

More information and assistance is available at these sites:

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

The Parasite Fight
http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm

Neither adware nor spyware, collectively known as scumware,
magically install themselves on anyone's computer. They are almost
always deliberately installed by the computer's user, as part of some
allegedly "free" service or product.

While there are some unscrupulous malware distributors out there,
who do attempt to install and exploit malware without consent, the
majority of them simply rely upon the intellectual laziness and
gullibility of the average consumer, counting on them to quickly click
past the EULA in his/her haste to get the latest in "free" cutesy
cursors, screensavers, "utilities," and/or wallpapers.

If you were to read the EULAs that accompany, and to which the
computer user must agree before the download/installation of the
"screensaver" continues, most adware and spyware, you'll find that
they _do_ have the consumer's permission to do exactly what they're
doing. In the overwhelming majority of cases, computer users have no
one to blame but themselves.

There are several essential components to computer security: a
knowledgeable and pro-active user, a properly configured firewall,
reliable and up-to-date antivirus software, and the prompt repair (via
patches, hotfixes, or service packs) of any known vulnerabilities.

The weakest link in this "equation" is, of course, the computer
user. No software manufacturer can -- nor should they be expected
to -- protect the computer user from him/herself. All too many people
have bought into the various PC/software manufacturers marketing
claims of easy computing. They believe that their computer should be
no harder to use than a toaster oven; they have neither the
inclination or desire to learn how to safely use their computer. All
too few people keep their antivirus software current, install patches
in a timely manner, or stop to really think about that cutesy link
they're about to click.

Firewalls and anti-virus applications, which should always be used
and should always be running, are important components of "safe hex,"
but they cannot, and should not be expected to, protect the computer
user from him/herself. Ultimately, it is incumbent upon each and
every computer user to learn how to secure his/her own computer.


To learn more about practicing "safe hex," start with these links:

Protect Your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/default.asp

Home Computer Security
http://www.cert.org/homeusers/HomeComputerSecurity/

List of Antivirus Software Vendors
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;49500

Home PC Firewall Guide
http://www.firewallguide.com/

Scumware.com
http://www.scumware.com/


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Bruce Chambers

Haggis said:
see Gibson's Research notes on "shoot the messenger"

here

http:


I realize that you're trying to help, and that such an intent is
commendable, but please don't post potentially harmful advice.

Merely disabling the messenger service, as Gibson's utility does,
is a dangerous "head in the sand" approach to computer security that
leaves the PC vulnerable to threats such as the W32.Blaster,
W32.Welchia, and W32,Sasser worms.

The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups; they're
actually providing a useful, if unintentional, service by acting as a
security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer, and your
only advice, however well-intended, was to turn off the warnings. Was
this truly helpful?

Equivalent Scenario: You over-exert your shoulder at work or play,
causing bursitis. After weeks of annoying and sometimes excruciating
pain whenever you try to reach over your head, you go to a doctor and
say, while demonstrating the motion, "Doc, it hurts when I do this." The
doctor, being as helpful as you've been, replies, "Well, don't do that."

The only true way to secure the PC, short of disconnecting it from
the Internet, is to install and *properly* configure a firewall; just
installing one and letting it's default settings handle things is no
good. Unfortunately, this does require one to learn a little bit more
about using a computer than used to be necessary.

Gibson is a very poor source for computer security advice. Gibson
has been fooling a lot of people for several years, now, so don't feel
too bad about having believed him. He mixes just enough facts in with
his hysteria and hyperbole to be plausible. Despicably, Gibson is
assuming a presumably morally superior pose as a White Knight out to
rescue the poor, defenseless computer user, all the while offering
solutions that do no good whatsoever.

Perhaps you should read what real computer security specialists
have to say about Steve Gibson's "security" expertise. You can start here:
http://www.grcsucks.com/


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Bruce Chambers

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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
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