Re: And then there were three ... hard drive manufacturers

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Yousuf Khan

http://www.buzzfeed.com/tommywilhelm/how-three-hard-drive-companies-gobbled-up-the-indu
from http://boingboing.net/2012/06/01/and-then-there-were-three.html ...
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From around a dozen two decades ago, to just 3 now. Is it any wonder
why the prices of hard drives aren't falling anymore? It's got nothing
to do with floods in Thailand, those happened nearly 2 years ago.

The price competition has stopped, and now you'll see that the capacity
competition has stagnated too. I previously thought that SSD's will
catch upto hard drives in about 10 years, I now think it'll be in about
5 years, possibly as fast as 3 years from now!

This is turning into a buggy-whip industry. The last companies still
producing horse buggy whips, just as cars are taking over the world.

Yousuf Khan
 
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4783l

Yousuf Khan said:
Ant wrote
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From around a dozen two decades ago, to just 3 now. Is it any wonder why
the prices of hard drives aren't falling anymore?
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They are, actually.
It's got nothing to do with floods in Thailand,
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Wrong, as always.
those happened nearly 2 years ago.
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Doesn't mean that those factorys are churning out
drives at the same rate they did before the floods tho.
The price competition has stopped,
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Wrong, as always.
and now you'll see that the capacity competition has stagnated too.
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Wrong, as always.
I previously thought that SSD's will catch upto hard drives in about 10
years, I now think it'll be in about 5 years, possibly as fast as 3 years
from now!
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Not a chance, you watch.

You're completely off with the ****ing fairys, as always.
This is turning into a buggy-whip industry.
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You're completely off with the ****ing fairys, as always.
The last companies still producing horse buggy whips, just as cars are
taking over the world.
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You're completely off with the ****ing fairys, as always.
 
N

Noob

4783l said:
They are, actually.
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Please explain what you mean.

One year ago, the typical 2-TB 5400-RPM HDD cost 60-70 euros.
Today, the typical 2-TB 5400-RPM HDD cost 100-110 euros, and
these prices have been stable for 3 months.
 
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Rod Speed

Please explain what you mean.
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I meant what I said, the prices have dropped since the floods.
One year ago, the typical 2-TB 5400-RPM HDD cost 60-70 euros.
Today, the typical 2-TB 5400-RPM HDD cost 100-110 euros, and
these prices have been stable for 3 months.
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That's just because the euro has gone down the pan in the last 3 months.

When priced in USD, the best prices for 2TB and 3TB
drives have dropped substantially in the last 6 months.
 
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GMAN

I meant what I said, the prices have dropped since the floods.


That's just because the euro has gone down the pan in the last 3 months.

When priced in USD, the best prices for 2TB and 3TB
drives have dropped substantially in the last 6 months.
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Agreed, i can now get 2TB WD drives again around the $80 stateside now and 3TB
for around $129
 
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Rod Speed

Agreed, i can now get 2TB WD drives again around
the $80 stateside now and 3TB for around $129
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We've actually seen some crossover on $/GB with those drives in some markets
too.
 
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Noob

It's true that HDD prices have indeed come down from their local max
in Q4 2011. However, they are still higher than pre-flood.

In the summer 2011, the EUR oscillated between 1.39 and 1.48 USD.
Thus 60 EUR = 83-89 USD.

Today, the EUR hovers around 1.25 USD.
Thus 100-110 EUR = 125-137 USD.

In the euro zone, cheap 2-TB disks are still 50% more expensive now
than they were in the summer 2011, considering prices in USD.
(75% more expensive considering prices in EUR).
Agreed, i can now get 2TB WD drives again around the $80 stateside now and 3TB
for around $129
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Really?! The cheapest 2-TB internal drives from Newegg cost 120 USD.
Do you have a link to 80 USD for 2-TB?
 
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Rod Speed

Noob said:
It's true that HDD prices have indeed come down from their local max
in Q4 2011. However, they are still higher than pre-flood.

In the summer 2011, the EUR oscillated between 1.39 and 1.48 USD.
Thus 60 EUR = 83-89 USD.

Today, the EUR hovers around 1.25 USD.
Thus 100-110 EUR = 125-137 USD.

In the euro zone, cheap 2-TB disks are still 50% more expensive now
than they were in the summer 2011, considering prices in USD.
(75% more expensive considering prices in EUR).


Really?! The cheapest 2-TB internal drives from Newegg cost 120 USD.
Do you have a link to 80 USD for 2-TB?
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...f.,cf.osb&fp=d04e746611f6f2d1&biw=643&bih=362
 
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Rod Speed

Gerald Abrahamson said:
Notice the problem with the product?
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There is no problem with that product.
It is Hitachi--or it was. Now WD--or will be.
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Irrelevant to the fact that you get a lot
more than just the hard drive for $80
Plus, this is an external 2TB drive, not an internal drive.
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So you get more than just the drive.
Discontinued or clearance? Most likely. Warranty by who?
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WD, because they bought that operation.
How long? 30-30 warranty (30-ft or 30 sec, whichever comes first)?
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You'll end up completely blind if you don't watch out.
Hitachi or WD? Doesn't say....
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Who cares what they say, legally WD has to honor
the warranty because they bought that operation.
Ships direct from mfr--RIIIIGHT.....
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No reason why it cant.
 
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shawn

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...f.,cf.osb&fp=d04e746611f6f2d1&biw=643&bih=362
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Sorry, but the only one that shows up with the $80 price is actually
for this CCD camera
http://compare.ebay.com/like/150826999778?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y

Sorting on price and ignoring the fake entry (the actual Hitachi drive
under that 80 dollar listing goes for 210 dollars) the next lowest
entry is the 2nd one from Bacucountry for $108.79. That's definitely
down from the high after the the floods but still not down to the lows
we saw before the floods. Chances are the prices may never hit that
low since we don't have as many competitors now along with the SSDs
starting to move in on the lower capacity drives.
 
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JW

Notice the problem with the product? It is Hitachi--or it
was. Now WD--or will be. Plus, this is an external 2TB
drive, not an internal drive. Discontinued or clearance?
Most likely. Warranty by who? How long? 30-30 warranty
(30-ft or 30 sec, whichever comes first)? Hitachi or WD?
Doesn't say.... Ships direct from mfr--RIIIIGHT.....
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The bigger problem is that it's $104.89, not $80.
 
Y

Yousuf Khan

Rod, the lowest price from your original Google listing showed only $91,
not bad, but certainly not $80. Then that specific Hitachi external
product you displayed from SeaBoom shows $104.89 -- after a $96.10
discount! Still not $80, BTW.

Yousuf Khan
 
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GMAN

Rod, the lowest price from your original Google listing showed only $91,
not bad, but certainly not $80. Then that specific Hitachi external
product you displayed from SeaBoom shows $104.89 -- after a $96.10
discount! Still not $80, BTW.

Yousuf Khan
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The place have been seeing $80 2TB drives pop up all the time lately are on
the newsletters i get daily in my email from Newegg, Tigerdirect and Compusa.
 

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