raw pictures in mediacenter....not, although it could just be a dim witted pc user.

S

sferguso

in xp windows explorer shows raw ( Nikon NEF files ) thumbs, picture
and fax viewer displays raw photos. Why won't media center
recognize raw photos to view them inside that application instead of
having to exit media center and using the plain jane standard pic
viewer. isn't the point of a media pc to be able to show pictures, it
is not as if xp cant decode them, the basic programs built in to xp do
it. Am I missing something here, should not the higher end product do
it?
 
J

John Inzer

in xp windows explorer shows raw ( Nikon NEF files ) thumbs, picture
and fax viewer displays raw photos. Why won't media center
recognize raw photos to view them inside that application instead of
having to exit media center and using the plain jane standard pic
viewer. isn't the point of a media pc to be able to show pictures, it
is not as if xp cant decode them, the basic programs built in to xp do
it. Am I missing something here, should not the higher end product do
it?
=======================================
Windows XP doesn't natively support RAW files...
I suspect that someone installed the following viewer
on your system. (It looks very much like WP&F Viewer)

Microsoft RAW Image Thumbnailer
and Viewer for Windows XP
http://tinyurl.com/c4z28

And BTW...cameras released since the last updates
to this viewer will probably not be supported.

You might want to try the following freeware for
viewing RAW files:

FastStone Image Viewer
http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm

Download Irfanview
http://www.techspot.com/download299.html
(get the plug-ins too)
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/472-irfanview-plugins.html

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
G

Guest

John Inzer said:
=======================================
Windows XP doesn't natively support RAW files...
I suspect that someone installed the following viewer
on your system. (It looks very much like WP&F Viewer)

Microsoft RAW Image Thumbnailer
and Viewer for Windows XP
http://tinyurl.com/c4z28

And BTW...cameras released since the last updates
to this viewer will probably not be supported.

You might want to try the following freeware for
viewing RAW files:

FastStone Image Viewer
http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm

Download Irfanview
http://www.techspot.com/download299.html
(get the plug-ins too)
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/472-irfanview-plugins.html

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk


Install WIC and Windows Live Photo Gallery

Nikon Raw, Pentax RAW codec and Canon CR2 RAW codec (v1.2) were unofficially
support XP


but need some knowledge to manually set up the file type
 
A

Alan55

I am experiencing the same issue. I use Media Center to create DVD back-ups
of my photos (jpegs typically) . However, since Media Center will not
recognize NEF files I can't figure out how to back-up the raw files. Any
suggestions?
 
J

John Inzer

Alan55 said:
I am experiencing the same issue. I use Media Center to create DVD
back-ups of my photos (jpegs typically) . However, since Media Center
will not recognize NEF files I can't figure out how to back-up the
raw files. Any suggestions?
================================
If you have a DVD burner you should have
some software that came with it that will
allow you to burn a Data DVD that includes
any files you choose.

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
L

lsourdis

I think everyone is missing (e-mail address removed) 's point:

Yes we know we can burn CDs and DVDs outside Windows Media Center, yes we
know we can view pics from outside Windows Media Center, but no, you CAN NOT
view RAW (NEF or other format) pictures when you want to put a slide show in
WIndows Media Center in your big 16:9 HD flat screen TV.

Major short coming that windows media center pictures viewer skips anything
that is not jpeg.

Windows Media Center Ultimate or XP, same thing - There's a proliferation of
pro-consumer cameras shooting in RAW format, therefore this is a need not a
want.

Cheers, happy holidays and new year..

Desperate needing this solve to fully enjoy my pics on the big screen, with
a remote control in my hand.
 
M

Michael J. Mahon

lsourdis said:
I think everyone is missing (e-mail address removed) 's point:

Yes we know we can burn CDs and DVDs outside Windows Media Center, yes we
know we can view pics from outside Windows Media Center, but no, you CAN NOT
view RAW (NEF or other format) pictures when you want to put a slide show in
WIndows Media Center in your big 16:9 HD flat screen TV.

Major short coming that windows media center pictures viewer skips anything
that is not jpeg.

Windows Media Center Ultimate or XP, same thing - There's a proliferation of
pro-consumer cameras shooting in RAW format, therefore this is a need not a
want.

However, I believe that less than 1% of digital camera users store
photos in raw format. It's not an unreasonable tradeoff.

It isn't much of a hardship for "raw" users to create .jpg's of photos
to view a slideshow--in fact many cameras save a .jpg simultaneously
with the "raw" file.

Look how long it took for Photoshop--for which a much larger fraction of
users use raw format--to open raw images. Of course, the proliferation
of proprietary "raw" formats doesn't help...

-michael

NadaPong: Network game demo for Apple II computers!
Home page: http://members.aol.com/MJMahon/

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."
 
L

lsourdis

Both valid points, with the following observations...

- Jpeg + RAW eats up aprox. 30% of a DSLR's valuable memory, along with
camera performance - due to bufferering from shoot to shoot, having to
process / compress / write. (This is in the manual of a Nikon D300)

- Proposed alternatives are not really solutions, rather work-arounds, not
addresing the root cause of the problem, which is there's room for
improvement.

- The underestimated 1 percent, is probably the same 1 percent of WMC users
- more likely the high-end user, that owns a high-end WMC edition computer,
along with a high-end camera.

Bottom line, why wouldn't you want WMC make the pricut better, have the
native Pic Viewer able to support RAW and any other format for that matter?
It enhances the product and user experience, making it the one stop shop for
all media.

If you have a hi-def 16:9 - 1080p capable flat screen tv with 7.1 surround
system, you want to watch 1080p tv or movies someday, why settle for Standard
Definition 4:3 image with mono audio?
 

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