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Sparky Spartacus
Tom said:
Same is true for the Dim3000 I bought less than a year ago. I wanted to
see if the World's Greatest Authority had anything specific to say on this.
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Same is true for the Dim3000 I bought less than a year ago. I wanted to
see if the World's Greatest Authority had anything specific to say on this.
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Sparky Spartacus
Bruce said:You mean when installed on Dell computers, don't you?
What part of "The Dells don't require activation at all" is hard to
understand?
Where (as in country) or how (special purchasing agreement,
perhaps?) are you purchasing these Dell CDs (I assume they're coming
with Dell computers)? While what you describe certainly used to be the
case, the Dell OEM CDs we've been getting (or, more accurately the
random sampling I've tested) for the past 18 months or so refuse to even
install on non-Dell machines. They present an error message to the
effect that, and I paraphrase, "This CD was designed for installation
only on the Dell computer with which it was purchased."
You're smoking the bad dope again. The rest of us have all used the Dell
XP CDs to install XP on non-Dell machines and it works just fine
(provided you have a valid COA for the target machine, of course).
Maybe Dell decided to **** you over?
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Sparky Spartacus
Bob said:He never uses it. <g>
That would explain it, wouldn't it? <g>
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ANONYMOUS
I agree completely with you Ben Myers. Clean install once a year is a
necessity with all Windows products because for some unknown reasons, MS
likes to store temp files anywhere it feels like. Also, the log files
are difficult to delete unless you habitully go into safe mode.
The last thing to take any Windows advice is from an MVP who is not in
full-time employment and whose knowledge is limited to simply copying
and pasting of useless links. I manage about 900 PCs for a University
in London, UK and without clean install our systems will grind to a
complete halt because of excessive usage by students.
necessity with all Windows products because for some unknown reasons, MS
likes to store temp files anywhere it feels like. Also, the log files
are difficult to delete unless you habitully go into safe mode.
The last thing to take any Windows advice is from an MVP who is not in
full-time employment and whose knowledge is limited to simply copying
and pasting of useless links. I manage about 900 PCs for a University
in London, UK and without clean install our systems will grind to a
complete halt because of excessive usage by students.
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ANONYMOUS
Bob said:I've used Dell CDs to reinstall the O/S on other brands and using the CD
Key on the sticker on the case had no problem at all activating.
I still use them from time to time. I have pre SP1 CDs which I have
kept for such use. Sometimes, you need to use these CDs because
students can't find their original CDs and they need their laptop up and
running now! You know they had a valid license because of the age of
the system etc but like everything they can't find the CDs!.
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Bob Levine
ANONYMOUS said:I still use them from time to time. I have pre SP1 CDs which I have
kept for such use. Sometimes, you need to use these CDs because
students can't find their original CDs and they need their laptop up and
running now! You know they had a valid license because of the age of
the system etc but like everything they can't find the CDs!.
If they're not Dells it's entirely possible that they didn't get CDs.
Bob
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ANONYMOUS
If they're not Dells it's entirely possible that they didn't get CDs.
It is also entirely possible that the system is HP and therefore must
came with CDs if the buyer sought advice on this NG before parting any
money!
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Bob Levine
ANONYMOUS said:Bob Levine wrote:
It is also entirely possible that the system is HP and therefore must
came with CDs if the buyer sought advice on this NG before parting any
money!
Which newsgroup. This thread is crossposted.
Bob
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Ron Martell
My condolences to your employer.ANONYMOUS said:I agree completely with you Ben Myers. Clean install once a year is a
necessity with all Windows products because for some unknown reasons, MS
likes to store temp files anywhere it feels like. Also, the log files
are difficult to delete unless you habitully go into safe mode.
The last thing to take any Windows advice is from an MVP who is not in
full-time employment and whose knowledge is limited to simply copying
and pasting of useless links. I manage about 900 PCs for a University
in London, UK and without clean install our systems will grind to a
complete halt because of excessive usage by students.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair
"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
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Hank Arnold
Ron said:My condolences to your employer.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
Very useful......... You obviously have never supported more than a
single PC. Have you any idea what college students will do to a PC? I
support an upstate NY Hospice and we have the same problem with our
nurses and people who "know computers"....
We maintain a Ghost image for each model of PC. Periodically, we have to
bring one in and re-image it. A year is, frankly, at end of a typical
period. Usual trigger is complaints about how "the damned PC is running
slower than sh*t"..........
Regards,
Hank Arnold
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Colin Wilson
The last thing to take any Windows advice is from an MVP who is not in
Depending on how the computers are allowed to be used, there are PCI
based hardware devices that will effectively "lock" the existing drive
image and restore it upon the next reboot - I think they're about £10-
£12 each.
Whether that might be any easier / cheaper than maintaining an image for
each type of machine and flattening the lot once in a while is another
question :-}
full-time employment and whose knowledge is limited to simply copying
and pasting of useless links. I manage about 900 PCs for a University
in London, UK and without clean install our systems will grind to a
complete halt because of excessive usage by students.
Depending on how the computers are allowed to be used, there are PCI
based hardware devices that will effectively "lock" the existing drive
image and restore it upon the next reboot - I think they're about £10-
£12 each.
Whether that might be any easier / cheaper than maintaining an image for
each type of machine and flattening the lot once in a while is another
question :-}
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Ron Martell
Very useful......... You obviously have never supported more than a
single PC. Have you any idea what college students will do to a PC?
Yes. An "F" grade or two usually puts an end to the shenanigans.
I
support an upstate NY Hospice and we have the same problem with our
nurses and people who "know computers"....
Again, a few transfers to the local unemployment insurance agency
usually do wonders for staff behavior.
We maintain a Ghost image for each model of PC. Periodically, we have to
bring one in and re-image it. A year is, frankly, at end of a typical
period. Usual trigger is complaints about how "the damned PC is running
slower than sh*t"..........
Reimaging to solve problems is sometimes a viable solution. But the
best long-term fix is to do something about the underlying cause.
College students wreak havoc on computers because they are allowed to
get away with it. If there were meaningful consequences associated
with these activities the incidents would decrease dramatically.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair
"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
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Ben Myers
College students wreak havoc on computers because they are allowed to
get away with it. If there were meaningful consequences associated
with these activities the incidents would decrease dramatically.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
Actually, a more secure operating system would work wonders. An operating
system that could be locked down to prevent shenanigans done by people at the
keyboard and from the outside via the internet. But then, we would not be
talking about Windows, either, would we? ... Ben Myers
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Bob I
Ben said:Actually, a more secure operating system would work wonders. An operating
system that could be locked down to prevent shenanigans done by people at the
keyboard and from the outside via the internet. But then, we would not be
talking about Windows, either, would we? ... Ben Myers
You are talking about removing the freedom of use people expect from an
operating system, has nothing to do with Windows itself, and you know it.
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Ben Myers
Whatever. People have different requirements for their operating systems,
don't they? I, too, have supported personal computers in an environment of
hostile use, a public library. Some people who wander in are malicious. Others
do dumb things unwittingly to muck up a computer. You or I probably do not
need to be protected from ourselves, so we can accept something less secure. But
let's face it, Windows security continues to be a serious issue, no matter now
many billions Bill and Steve pour down the rat hole. In fact, one might say
that Windows security is Microsoft's Iraq war... Ben Myers
don't they? I, too, have supported personal computers in an environment of
hostile use, a public library. Some people who wander in are malicious. Others
do dumb things unwittingly to muck up a computer. You or I probably do not
need to be protected from ourselves, so we can accept something less secure. But
let's face it, Windows security continues to be a serious issue, no matter now
many billions Bill and Steve pour down the rat hole. In fact, one might say
that Windows security is Microsoft's Iraq war... Ben Myers
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Sparky Spartacus
Bob said:You are talking about removing the freedom of use people expect from an
operating system, has nothing to do with Windows itself, and you know it.
"freedom of use people expect from an operating system"? What the devil
are you talking about?
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