question about xcopy

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Professor Joe

Good morning all, here's hoping you have a great week!

Am leaving tomorrow, so hoping we get a great answer to our question.
Am going to have the computer students take over while I am gone.




we are needing to copy everything from a 60gig hard drive to another
one, all storage files, no Windows files.

We experimented with a couple small directories yesterday in regular
desktop XP mode and the fans (2) ran and ran. Don't want to burn up
anything.

Can we do this in safe mode/XP DOS/command prompt and still secure the
integrity of all files we need to copy? Our goal is to not have the
fan run constantly during this process.

our command is
xcopy f:\*.* g:\*.* /i /e

Not knowing here, can we just put a manual fan on the machine with the
side cover off for extra cooling or _______(process)__________?


Also can we estimate how long this process may take?

Professor Joe, thanking you great people!
 
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thecreator

Hi Professor Joe,

The Fans are not controlled by the operating system, but by temperature
and Computer BIOS.

So the fans in the computer, will always be running.

And since we are talking about XP and those files are on NTFS File
System(?), DOS can't see anything on NTFS File System from DOS.

You must move the files in Windows or using another program like
BootItNG from http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html, where it can
clone an entire partition, in maintenance mode, in Partition Work within
BootItNG program.
 
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Professor Joe

It happens that thecreator formulated :
Hi Professor Joe,

The Fans are not controlled by the operating system, but by temperature
and Computer BIOS.

So the fans in the computer, will always be running.

And since we are talking about XP and those files are on NTFS File
System(?), DOS can't see anything on NTFS File System from DOS.

You must move the files in Windows or using another program like BootItNG
from http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html, where it can clone an
entire partition, in maintenance mode, in Partition Work within BootItNG
program.

thanks Creator :)
Interesting tho, files/drive is NFTS....moved small directories that
way yesterday, impeccably.

Will check into your suggestions. Much thanks.

Profesor Joe
 
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James Silverton

thecreator wrote on Tue, 8 May 2007 11:03:01 -0400:

t> The Fans are not controlled by the operating system, but
t> by temperature and Computer BIOS.

t> So the fans in the computer, will always be running.

t> And since we are talking about XP and those files are on
t> NTFS File System(?), DOS can't see anything on NTFS File
t> System from DOS.

t> You must move the files in Windows or using another
t> program like BootItNG from
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html, where it can
t> clone an entire partition, in maintenance mode, in Partition
t> Work within BootItNG program.

To be precise, Windows XP does not know anything about DOS. It
can execute xcopy from a command prompt and can see NTFS files.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not
 
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Professor Joe

After serious thinking James Silverton wrote :
thecreator wrote on Tue, 8 May 2007 11:03:01 -0400:

t> The Fans are not controlled by the operating system, but
t> by temperature and Computer BIOS.

t> So the fans in the computer, will always be running.

t> And since we are talking about XP and those files are on
t> NTFS File System(?), DOS can't see anything on NTFS File
t> System from DOS.

t> You must move the files in Windows or using another
t> program like BootItNG from
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html, where it can
t> clone an entire partition, in maintenance mode, in Partition
t> Work within BootItNG program.

To be precise, Windows XP does not know anything about DOS. It can execute
xcopy from a command prompt and can see NTFS files.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

thank you James, very much...that makes sense why it moved them
yesterday :)
Will give it a go in safemode, for less memory draw.

Professor Joe
 
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Professor Joe

Professor Joe expressed precisely :
Good morning all, here's hoping you have a great week!

Am leaving tomorrow, so hoping we get a great answer to our question. Am
going to have the computer students take over while I am gone.




we are needing to copy everything from a 60gig hard drive to another one, all
storage files, no Windows files.

We experimented with a couple small directories yesterday in regular desktop
XP mode and the fans (2) ran and ran. Don't want to burn up anything.

Can we do this in safe mode/XP DOS/command prompt and still secure the
integrity of all files we need to copy? Our goal is to not have the fan run
constantly during this process.

our command is
xcopy f:\*.* g:\*.* /i /e

Not knowing here, can we just put a manual fan on the machine with the side
cover off for extra cooling or _______(process)__________?


Also can we estimate how long this process may take?

Professor Joe, thanking you great people!

just an update to help others:


in our XP / safe mode / command prompt and earlier command I posted:
just purring along, copying impeccably from one drive to the other in
NFTS.

Much thanks to both of you for your input.
Professor Joe
:)
 
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Poprivet

thecreator said:
Hi Professor Joe,

The Fans are not controlled by the operating system, but by
temperature and Computer BIOS.

So the fans in the computer, will always be running.

Not necessarily and not necessarily at the same speed, but ... that's a
strange comment from the OP any way you look at it.
And since we are talking about XP and those files are on NTFS File
System(?), DOS can't see anything on NTFS File System from DOS.

Read the post again: he's calling it XP's DOS, meaning the Command Prompt,
I'm pretty sure. Anyway you look at it, an imaging prog isn't his answer
for the time he has allotted.

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Poprivet

Professor Joe wrote:
....
We experimented with a couple small directories yesterday in regular
desktop XP mode and the fans (2) ran and ran. Don't want to burn up
anything.
....
That makes no sense. Unless you have a bastardized computer somehow, the
fans are doing their jobs. Even if the temps did go too high, all that
would happen is a shut down, not "burn up" anything.

Let the fans do their jobs. Do the copies.

No data was provided to allow estimating elapsed time to copy those files,
so there's no answer there without futher information.

HTH
Pop`
 
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Poprivet

James said:
thecreator wrote on Tue, 8 May 2007 11:03:01 -0400:

t> The Fans are not controlled by the operating system, but
t> by temperature and Computer BIOS.

t> So the fans in the computer, will always be running.

t> And since we are talking about XP and those files are on
t> NTFS File System(?), DOS can't see anything on NTFS File
t> System from DOS.

t> You must move the files in Windows or using another
t> program like BootItNG from
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html, where it can
t> clone an entire partition, in maintenance mode, in Partition
t> Work within BootItNG program.

To be precise, Windows XP does not know anything about DOS. It
can execute xcopy from a command prompt and can see NTFS files.

I'm pretty sure he's just calling the Command Prompt DOS. It's not unusual
and even MS refers to it as the DOS window in several places. At any rate,
for his purposes, the Command Prompt will do what he needs to do.

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thecreator

Hi Professor,

Rethinking. If you are not connected to the Internet from that computer
and an Anti-Virus program is installed, just disable the Anti-Virus program,
when you need to copy the files and folders. This would speed up the moving
of the files and folders. You don't need Safe mode or DOS, just Explore.
 

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