Question about Athlon X2

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A question about Athlon X2 :

Does it offer any improvement over non X2 versions,

under WindowsXP and no other software optimized

for X2 ?

I know the software will not use the two cores, but

will I be able to launch two or more programs, which each

using one of the cores ?
 
R

Roger Hamlett

Natéag said:
A question about Athlon X2 :

Does it offer any improvement over non X2 versions,

under WindowsXP and no other software optimized
for X2 ?

I know the software will not use the two cores, but

will I be able to launch two or more programs, which each

using one of the cores ?
AMD, are very 'underclaiming', about the performance of the X2. The quoted
figure, corresponds to about a 30% improvement on a single core processor,
and this is less than most general application 'mixes' should get. In fact
on some applications, which are multi-threaded, you can get nearer to 180%
of the single core performance. you generally don't see 'double', because
there is a cost in the OS kernel, associated with supporting SMP, and the
performance of other system components limit the speed.
As an example, running a single DOS application in a XP command prompt
window, I see perfomance about 5% slower than a 3700+, while running a
4800+. This is because of these extra overheads in the kernel. However
running Photoshop, basic manipulation operations, push to over 175% of the
3700+ performance (effectively a 6400+!). Running a single disk/network
intensive operation, gives performance about 15% better than the 3700+,
with the I/O operations being handled by the second processor. Running two
applications, gives results ranging between the two extremes, depending on
whether the applications are limited by processor performance, memory, or
disk. The 4800 figure is a very 'reasonable' estimation of the sort of
processor performance level that most people should see, and many will see
levels well above this. One thing that is always very noticeable on SMP
machines is how much less prone to a complete 'hang' they are, when a
single process hogs the entire processor time.
It is sometimes suprising which packages will use multiple cores. I have
some very old Win32 applications, that are beautifully multi-threaded, yet
many expensive modern applications are basically single threaded...

Best Wishes
 
R

Robert Hancock

Natéag said:
A question about Athlon X2 :

Does it offer any improvement over non X2 versions,

under WindowsXP and no other software optimized

for X2 ?

I know the software will not use the two cores, but

will I be able to launch two or more programs, which each

using one of the cores ?

Programs don't need to be specifically optimized for dual-core CPUs,
multiple CPUs or hyperthreading. Anything that is multi-threaded can
benefit, which is most Windows applications. Just how much they benefit
depends on how they were written.

And yes, multiple single-threaded applications will see a speedup as well.
 
M

Mercury

One thing that is always very noticeable on SMP machines is how much less
prone to a complete 'hang' they are, when a single process hogs the entire
processor time.


I call this 'smooth' user experience. Duas are Smooth, you can biff a lot
more at 2 processors and the User experience is non stop smooth.

Hangs? Never had an app cause a UI hang IDE CDRoms excepted. SCSI is the
solution there.

The OS automatically balances CPU workloads with the active app gettinga
priority boost so pushing other hogs off the CPU the active app is on -
watch Task Manager.
 

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