[Q] Foreign language GUI for English Win XP Pro

[Whytoi]

I have an English copy of Windows XP Pro on my laptop. Is there a way
to add a foreign language GUI to the windows environment? I am not
referring to foreign language input but to have the ability to switch
between English and foreign language GUI.

I have searched MSFT's support site and it talked about MUI etc and got
quite technical and confusing.

Can anyone tell me if this can or can not be done? If so, how in
simpler terms. Quite specifically I am interested in being able to
switch b/n simplified chinese and english GUI under Windows.

Thanks.

 

[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

I have an English copy of Windows XP Pro on my laptop. Is there a way
to add a foreign language GUI to the windows environment? I am not
referring to foreign language input but to have the ability to switch
between English and foreign language GUI.

I have searched MSFT's support site and it talked about MUI etc and got
quite technical and confusing.

Can anyone tell me if this can or can not be done? If so, how in
simpler terms. Quite specifically I am interested in being able to
switch b/n simplified chinese and english GUI under Windows.

The functionality you describe is implemented in the MUI (Multilingual User
Interface) Pack.
This is not available to retail customers only to volume licensed customers
see
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tr...hnet/prodtechnol/winxppro/evaluate/MuiOvw.asp
for a discussion about the different support for multilingual capabilities
in Windows XP Professional.


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[Whytoi]

The functionality you describe is implemented in the MUI (Multilingual User
Interface) Pack.
This is not available to retail customers only to volume licensed customers
see

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol
/winxppro/evaluate/MuiOvw.asp
for a discussion about the different support for multilingual capabilities
in Windows XP Professional.

Thanks for the very quick response. That's a shame that there's no
option for retail customers...

 

[Perdita X. Nitt]

The functionality you describe is implemented in the MUI
(Multilingual User
Interface) Pack.
This is not available to retail customers only to volume licensed
customers
see
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechn
ol/winxppro/evaluate/MuiOvw.asp
for a discussion about the different support for multilingual
capabilities
in Windows XP Professional.

Mike - could you please inform Paul Cyr of this fact? He's been following me
around like a bad smell and every time I reply to someone "no you must
purchase the full xxx version" he calls me a liar and posts the link you
just have. I've lost count of the number of times I've told him "this
applies to volume licence customers only" to which he replies that I'm a
liar again...I've given up telling him he's not helpful.

 

[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

Mike - could you please inform Paul Cyr of this fact? He's been following me
around like a bad smell and every time I reply to someone "no you must
purchase the full xxx version" he calls me a liar and posts the link you
just have. I've lost count of the number of times I've told him "this
applies to volume licence customers only" to which he replies that I'm a
liar again...I've given up telling him he's not helpful.

PXD,

As a quick FYI (that you can point PCyr to)
we now have the,

Windows MUI/LIP Knowledge Center
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/muizone.mspx


With links to:-

Windows MUI FAQ
Information about MUI for Windows XP, Windows Server 2003 Family, and
Windows 2000
- their features, how to obtain them, setup and administration,...

Including:---

General Questions
Q6. How can I acquire Windows MUI?
A. How can I acquire Windows MUI?
The Windows XP/2000 MUI is sold only through Volume Licensing programs such
as the Microsoft Open License Program (MOLP / Open), Select, and Enterprise
agreement (or with a new computer as an OEM version at customer request).
It is not available through retail channels.


Probably not much discussion needed on that answer. ;-)
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[Torgeir Bakken (MVP)]

(snip)
A. How can I acquire Windows MUI?
The Windows XP/2000 MUI is sold only through Volume Licensing programs such
as the Microsoft Open License Program (MOLP / Open), Select, and Enterprise
agreement (or with a new computer as an OEM version at customer request).
It is not available through retail channels.

Probably not much discussion needed on that answer. ;-)

Hi

Wouldn't the OEM part indicate that an end user could obtain the MUI version by
buying a OEM product that bundles the MUI?

 

[Torgeir Bakken (MVP)]

Yes, but I think Perdita and PCyr are disagreeing over the issue of
"retail" product.
I'm trying to stay well clear.

LOL, I can understand that ;-)

 

[Perdita X. Nitt]

Yes, but I think Perdita and PCyr are disagreeing over the issue of
"retail" product.
I'm trying to stay well clear.

This is odd - Torgeir's post didn't appear on my server - if you'd not
quoted him, I'd have assumed you'd finally flipped (or I'd pushed you over
the edge! ;o))

 

[PCyr]

Oh, here as some of those rude posts of yours:

1)

You do what you should have done before posting - you search the
group(s) to see if anyone might conceivably have had a similar
problem. Had you done so, you'd have found at least 5,000 answers to
your question - please visit the first link in my signature for
answers to this - and all other - FAQs.

Perdita X. Nitt;

Do you get some kind of graticication from trying to offend OP's with your
mean attitude.

Nobody asked anything from you personally, so why not say nothing if you're
unable to show any pleasant disposition to people.



2)
It would be nice to think that we could forgive cultural differences and
accept that we all have differing levels of ability re. use of english and
associated grammar.. surely we are here to help people with computer
problems, and not to judge their ability to be 100% coherent in their use of
the english language..

Please see link three in my signature to learn how to post to newsgroups
properly and effectively.

3) Even Bruce thought you were wrong on this one:
Greetings --

Recognized by whom, other than yourself?

Bruce Chambers

I gave you an answer - NIS slows
your system down - it's a recognised fact...if you don't like the answer
don't read it.

4)
Because this is an XP news group. And who in the hell are you to jump on
someone like that?

No idea..why are you posting this here anyway? MS doesn't customise XP for
Dell...Why aren't you asking Dell?

5)

You search the damned group! And I must say that's very funny logic...

Hi Perdita X. Nitt. I'm not really certain what you are attempting to do
other than piss people off. These newsgroups exist to provide support to
people. It is completely within a poster's rights to ask questions
pertaining to technical issues here. There is no requirement to search
through prior newsgroup posts or search the internet before asking their
question.

While some people might want to do their own searches there are many others
who simply come here first. My advice to you is if you do not wish to answer
a question that has been asked and answered previously then just by-pass the
message. BTW you might want to add these links to the list in your sig line
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/participate.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/default.asp



6)
Maybe they are a bit challenged. Stop being an ass and help. It took you
more time to write a criticism then it would have taken you to answer the
damn question.

Are you really so challenged that you can't scroll back through 45 minutes
worth of posts? I did some calculations earlier and this question is asked
every 2 hours - yep, that's right, folks TWELVE times a day!

7)

Do a search, using the first link in my signature, and you'll find all the
information you need.

Damn, Cassandra, at least help the guy, you are making us real
bitches look bad. Looka here, think about why these people are here,
esp. new users. Alot of new users are at their wits end and have
searched through Microsoft mazes and not found their answers, but
instead *did* use one of the options "use newsgroups". Oh, I have
bitched about posters not scrolling down and searching for an answer,
but then I remember the first time I used a newsgroup. Great as Google
may be, my answer did not exist in Google.

Star



8)
It's just plain and simple bud. Perdita is an ass and everyone on this
board thinks so. You know the saying, "3 billion chinese people can't be
wrong (when it comes to eating rice).(or something like that.)" Apply that
to the users here and their views on Perdita the pinhead.

???

Wow, you're remarkably rude to strangers on usenet! Does it make you
feel big to be mean and insulting?

I did look, but my news server doesn't seem to carry the groups you
mentioned. If I wasn't bright enough to find them then so be it, but
you must be puddled if you imagine I'd bother to lie about checking
for NGs before asking for help.

If you imagine that people politely requesting help on Usenet are
liars simply because they don't appear to know all that you know then
maybe you need to take a close look at yourself.


Sincerely,

and it goes on...

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1) You are such an moron, cretin, f**kwit (take your pick). The argument
wasn't whether or not MUI is available for XP Pro retail or VL, but whether
or not it's available for the Windows operating system, AT ALL.

Here you go:

ME: I heard something about a Multilingual User Interface component for
Pro.
It's from MS, but I'm not sure if it's included in Pro.

PXD: You are wrong (again!), no such thing exists. There is a MUI for Office
(applies to VL only) but not Windows.

-So according to you, you can get a MUI for Office VL, but not for Windows
AT ALL.

ME: Maybe you need to do a little research (again!)
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/choosing2.asp
it's right down at the very bottom.
Please keep your rudeness and ignorance to yourself.

PXD: That's for OL/VL only. This http://tinyurl.com/iz3k is a link to at
least
three dozen people who agree with me. Guess I'm not the ignorant one, huh?

ME: Hey ignoranus, thats not what you said. You said, "There is a MUI for
Office
(applies to VL only) but not Windows."

And then you said that there was one for OL (what ever that is)/VL.

"I've lost count of the number of times I've told him "this applies to

volume licence customers only"
I guess you can't count, because other than the instant I just quoted, there
was only one other instant.

2) I *NEVER* called you a liar about this. I never implied it either,
there's a difference between lying and being a liar. That's why I didn't
call you a liar. And I still don't think you lied, just misunderstood.

3) I thought it was in a one of the worst things you could in a newsgroup
was to post personal information? Well, at least that's what you said. I
never told you my name, and although the information is available on the
web, it is completely inappropriate to post my name.

4) It's funny, you say I'm not helpful, meanwhile you get flamed by many
users for your rude language. And although, I don't post as much as you, my
percentage of non-helpful posts is definitely not as high as yours.

Please learn the story correctly before telling others.


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5 Steps to computer safety:
1) Use a good quality anti-virus, and keep it up-to-date.
2) Use a firewall. The one in XP works fine, but there are better ones out
there.
3) Keep Windows up-to-date. It's your choice whether or not you want the
recommended updates, but the critical updates are just that - critical.
4) Beware of adware and spyware. There are many programs that will help to
protect your computer, but it's up to you to prevent it as well. Make sure
you read the agreement of the software before you install it. It should
tell you if it will be installing any additional programs.
5) Be cautious of attachments. Microsoft NEVER sends out attachments via
email. Always scan all attachments before opening them.

Email address is fake to prevent SPAM.
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Change the obvious to the obvious.
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message
Hi

Wouldn't the OEM part indicate that an end user could obtain the MUI
version by buying a OEM product that bundles the MUI?

Yes, but I think Perdita and PCyr are disagreeing over the issue of
"retail" product.
I'm trying to stay well clear.

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Mike

message "Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" wrote:

"Perdita X. Nitt! wrote:

I've lost count of the number of times I've told him "this
applies to volume licence customers only" to which he replies that
I'm a liar again...I've given up telling him he's not helpful.

(snip)
A. How can I acquire Windows MUI?
The Windows XP/2000 MUI is sold only through Volume Licensing
programs such as the Microsoft Open License Program (MOLP / Open),
Select, and Enterprise agreement (or with a new computer as an OEM
version at customer request). It is not available through retail
channels.

Probably not much discussion needed on that answer. ;-)

Hi

Wouldn't the OEM part indicate that an end user could obtain the MUI
version by buying a OEM product that bundles the MUI?


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This is odd - Torgeir's post didn't appear on my server - if you'd not
quoted him, I'd have assumed you'd finally flipped (or I'd pushed you over
the edge! ;o))

 

[PCyr]

An eye for eye makes the world blind. But then people can't see other
people's hand gestures.

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5 Steps to computer safety:
1) Use a good quality anti-virus, and keep it up-to-date.
2) Use a firewall. The one in XP works fine, but there are better ones out
there.
3) Keep Windows up-to-date. It's your choice whether or not you want the
recommended updates, but the critical updates are just that - critical.
4) Beware of adware and spyware. There are many programs that will help to
protect your computer, but it's up to you to prevent it as well. Make sure
you read the agreement of the software before you install it. It should
tell you if it will be installing any additional programs.
5) Be cautious of attachments. Microsoft NEVER sends out attachments via
email. Always scan all attachments before opening them.

Email address is fake to prevent SPAM.
Real email address is pcyr2000 AT hotmail DOT com
Change the obvious to the obvious.
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[PCyr]

Oh by the way, those insults at the beginning are the ones she uses on
innocent users - poetic justice.

Hmmm? She still hasn't responded to this post, and she calls other people
trolls?

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5 Steps to computer safety:
1) Use a good quality anti-virus, and keep it up-to-date.
2) Use a firewall. The one in XP works fine, but there are better ones out
there.
3) Keep Windows up-to-date. It's your choice whether or not you want the
recommended updates, but the critical updates are just that - critical.
4) Beware of adware and spyware. There are many programs that will help to
protect your computer, but it's up to you to prevent it as well. Make sure
you read the agreement of the software before you install it. It should
tell you if it will be installing any additional programs.
5) Be cautious of attachments. Microsoft NEVER sends out attachments via
email. Always scan all attachments before opening them.

Email address is fake to prevent SPAM.
Real email address is pcyr2000 AT hotmail DOT com
Change the obvious to the obvious.
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