Product Key required

[Guest]

I want to trial vista beta2 build 5384 - but the product key I have has been
used 10 times - that is the limt number for each key - Microsoft advise me
they can't generate more at this time - suggested I grab one off anyone who
is not going to use theirs 10 times - so is there anyone willing to give me 1
of the 10 Product key regos.
If so I would appreciate it

 

[Beck]

I want to trial vista beta2 build 5384 - but the product key I have has
been
used 10 times - that is the limt number for each key - Microsoft advise me
they can't generate more at this time - suggested I grab one off anyone
who
is not going to use theirs 10 times - so is there anyone willing to give
me 1
of the 10 Product key regos.
If so I would appreciate it

That is what happens when keys get shared around and pirated.
You are stuck sorry.
Nobody is going to share their key with anybody else here. If the key was
yours in the first place why did you share it with people?
If you have an original key and not shared it with anyone, then try entering
the key again, you may have made a key error.

 

[Guest]

thanks - but this was Microsofts suggestion - computer crash caused the loss
of my key

 

[Steve Cochran]

It is illegal to use someone else's key.

steve

thanks - but this was Microsofts suggestion - computer crash caused the
loss
of my key

 

[Beck]

thanks - but this was Microsofts suggestion - computer crash caused the
loss
of my key

I doubt it. MS would not suggest you ask someone for a key as it is against
the terms.

 

[MICHAEL]

Microsoft allows the beta key to be used on *ten*
machines. 99.9% of users do not have *ten* computers.
I would assume Microsoft fully understands this fact.
Obviously, for the beta, I don't think they give a darn
whether the keys are used under one roof.

If I am wrong, show me where it says these beta
keys can not be given out. Why else allow one key
to be installed on ten different computers?


-Michael

 

[MICHAEL]

I doubt it. MS would not suggest you ask someone for a key as it is against
the terms.

I believe the rules are different for this beta. The key can be
used on ten different computers. Show me where it states that
those computers must be under *one* roof. How many users
actually have that many computers? I think Microsoft intended
for the beta keys to be shared. Please, prove me wrong if I am,
indeed, wrong.


-Michael

 

[Beck]

I believe the rules are different for this beta. The key can be
used on ten different computers. Show me where it states that
those computers must be under *one* roof. How many users
actually have that many computers? I think Microsoft intended
for the beta keys to be shared. Please, prove me wrong if I am,
indeed, wrong.

Its the same for previous versions.
From the license...
"You may install and use any number of copies of the software on your
premises to design, develop and test your programs for use with the
software. You may use as many copies of the software as the product key
permits."

Up to 10 computers allows for businesses to test the OS on a limited
environment. It doesn't mean that people can share them out. Don't get me
wrong, I do not see anything wrong with passing it to a friend (apart from
what it says in the license), I am just stating out that MS would not refer
somebody to this newsgroup to get a key.

 

[MICHAEL]

Its the same for previous versions.
From the license...
"You may install and use any number of copies of the software on your
premises to design, develop and test your programs for use with the
software. You may use as many copies of the software as the product key
permits."

Up to 10 computers allows for businesses to test the OS on a limited
environment. It doesn't mean that people can share them out. Don't get me
wrong, I do not see anything wrong with passing it to a friend (apart from
what it says in the license), I am just stating out that MS would not refer
somebody to this newsgroup to get a key.

I just read the terms again. Yes, I see all that mumbo jumbo. However,
Beta 2 build 5384 was specifically targeted to individual users. Many businesses
have other means and programs to obtain Vista beta.

What I find funny, under number 9 (Scope of license) it states that the user
can not tell a "third party" any benchmark results. So, strictly speaking, sharing
your "Windows Experience Index" would be a violation of the terms. It also says,
"You may not work around any technical limitations in the software". That is
a very broad statement. All those users who have had to use WinXP drivers
or, basically, work around any bug, have violated the terms.


-Michael

 

[MICHAEL]

Its the same for previous versions.
From the license...
"You may install and use any number of copies of the software on your
premises to design, develop and test your programs for use with the
software. You may use as many copies of the software as the product key
permits."

Up to 10 computers allows for businesses to test the OS on a limited
environment. It doesn't mean that people can share them out. Don't get me
wrong, I do not see anything wrong with passing it to a friend (apart from
what it says in the license), I am just stating out that MS would not refer
somebody to this newsgroup to get a key.

I do notice that number 5. Product Keys
states- "You should not share keys with third parties."

It doesn't say "may not" or "can not". There is a
difference. Look at all the other places "may not"
is used.


-Michael

 

[Beck]

I do notice that number 5. Product Keys
states- "You should not share keys with third parties."

It doesn't say "may not" or "can not". There is a
difference. Look at all the other places "may not"
is used.

Well English language aside, the point is more that MS would not refer him
to this newsgroup to get a key

 

[Tim Payne]

I disagree that the Beta 2 was targetted solely at individuals. It's
targetted at any Microsoft customer (the Customer Preview Program), and
businesses are the biggest customers of Microsoft.

Yes, businesses can join Technet and the other developer/integrator/reseller
programs and get their betas that way, but the majority of businesses don't
(if they don't do heavy in-house development, for example). So, the CPP is
their best opportunity to try out new releases of Windows, Office, whatever
the product is, in their business environments.

The license agreement applies to either the business entity or individual
who agreed to it. To me, I interpret that, as an individual, I can install
Beta/pre-RC1 on up to 10 of MY computers. So I don't share it with others.

Would the Feds come knockin' if I did? Prolly not. But that's what I
agreed to.

 

[Guest]

Can't be - it was Microsofts who instructed me to try here

 

[Guest]

Exactly = thanks Michael
--
roscoerp

Microsoft allows the beta key to be used on *ten*
machines. 99.9% of users do not have *ten* computers.
I would assume Microsoft fully understands this fact.
Obviously, for the beta, I don't think they give a darn
whether the keys are used under one roof.

If I am wrong, show me where it says these beta
keys can not be given out. Why else allow one key
to be installed on ten different computers?


-Michael

 

[Guest]

Well your wrong as it was Microsoft Australia who suggested I try here!!!

 

[Guest]

Well they did!!!!
--
roscoerp

Its the same for previous versions.
From the license...
"You may install and use any number of copies of the software on your
premises to design, develop and test your programs for use with the
software. You may use as many copies of the software as the product key
permits."

Up to 10 computers allows for businesses to test the OS on a limited
environment. It doesn't mean that people can share them out. Don't get me
wrong, I do not see anything wrong with passing it to a friend (apart from
what it says in the license), I am just stating out that MS would not refer
somebody to this newsgroup to get a key.