Problem with Hebrew in Windows XP on laptop from the US

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Noam Nelke

Hi!

I bought a laptop in the US and enabled Hebrew on it. I can now read
hebrew on the net and use it in Word and so on, but...

In some cases it doesn't work... For example: In Word, I can't use
some fonts (Like most of the Guttman fonts) that I installed myself.
When I try, it'll just substitute it with another font. I C-A-N use
these fonts in other applications, though. I've also noticed that on
my home computer (Purchased in Israel - also XP) I have font
variations like "Tahoma (Hebrew)", "Arial (Hebrew)" and so on, but I
can't find those on my laptop.

Another problem, for example, is that when I search in Kazaa (in
Hebrew) it shows up fine, but the moment I press Enter (or Search Now)
the hebrew text is transformed into ???? ?????? and it doesn't find
anything.

I'm totaly frustrated, I feel like I've tried everything. I would
appriciate any thoughts/comments on what I could try to do. If anyone
has the same problem write to me cause I feel like I'm the only one...

Another comment: Are there localized versions of Windows XP (In
English)? Cause the one I have on my home computer came with all these
Hebrew fonts (like the Guttmans), and doesn't cause me any problems,
whereas the US one came with hardly any Hebrew fonts.

Thanks in advance...... ;-) Noam Nelke.
 
D

David H. Lipman

Maybe what you need is the Hebrew version of WinXP ?

Good Yom Tov and Happy Pesach.

Dave



| Hi!
|
| I bought a laptop in the US and enabled Hebrew on it. I can now read
| hebrew on the net and use it in Word and so on, but...
|
| In some cases it doesn't work... For example: In Word, I can't use
| some fonts (Like most of the Guttman fonts) that I installed myself.
| When I try, it'll just substitute it with another font. I C-A-N use
| these fonts in other applications, though. I've also noticed that on
| my home computer (Purchased in Israel - also XP) I have font
| variations like "Tahoma (Hebrew)", "Arial (Hebrew)" and so on, but I
| can't find those on my laptop.
|
| Another problem, for example, is that when I search in Kazaa (in
| Hebrew) it shows up fine, but the moment I press Enter (or Search Now)
| the hebrew text is transformed into ???? ?????? and it doesn't find
| anything.
|
| I'm totaly frustrated, I feel like I've tried everything. I would
| appriciate any thoughts/comments on what I could try to do. If anyone
| has the same problem write to me cause I feel like I'm the only one...
|
| Another comment: Are there localized versions of Windows XP (In
| English)? Cause the one I have on my home computer came with all these
| Hebrew fonts (like the Guttmans), and doesn't cause me any problems,
| whereas the US one came with hardly any Hebrew fonts.
|
| Thanks in advance...... ;-) Noam Nelke.
 
C

CS

On 11 Apr 2004 16:48:16 -0700, (e-mail address removed) (Noam Nelke)
wrote:

What you're experiencing is normal for a non Roman alphabet language
such as Hebrew or one of the many Asian languages installed to an
English copy of XP. The only way to guarantee all your sites, fonts,
searches, etc. appear in Hebrew is to install the Hebrew version of
XP.

The home computer you purchased in Israel probably has a localized
version of XP installed including all the Hebrew fonts you need, and
as such can display all properly. Here's a suggestion you might
consider: Install a Hebrew copy of XP on your laptop and dual boot it
with the English copy.
 
N

Noam Nelke

CS said:
What you're experiencing is normal for a non Roman alphabet language
such as Hebrew or one of the many Asian languages installed to an
English copy of XP. The only way to guarantee all your sites, fonts,
searches, etc. appear in Hebrew is to install the Hebrew version of
XP.

The home computer you purchased in Israel probably has a localized
version of XP installed including all the Hebrew fonts you need, and
as such can display all properly. Here's a suggestion you might
consider: Install a Hebrew copy of XP on your laptop and dual boot it
with the English copy.

I thought one of the advantages of WinXP is that it's globaly equal.
Guess I was wrong...

But the thing is: the version of Windows I have on my home computer
(purchased in Israel) is the English version. Do you think there's a
localized English version in addition to the Hebrew version? I really
don't want all my menus to be in hebrew, and I don't think I have to
(like on my home computer - where the menus are in English but Hebrew
supprot is full). Besides does Microsoft expect me to go and buy a new
version of Windows? Isn't there a patch I can use or something?
 
C

CS

I thought one of the advantages of WinXP is that it's globaly equal.
Guess I was wrong...

But the thing is: the version of Windows I have on my home computer
(purchased in Israel) is the English version. Do you think there's a
localized English version in addition to the Hebrew version? I really
don't want all my menus to be in hebrew, and I don't think I have to
(like on my home computer - where the menus are in English but Hebrew
supprot is full). Besides does Microsoft expect me to go and buy a new
version of Windows? Isn't there a patch I can use or something?

There is no patch available. But as I stated above, the computer you
purchased in Israel (English version of XP) was probably setup for
that local area. That's why you have the fonts. Why don't you copy
the fonts from your desktop to the laptop? Copy them to a temp
folder on the laptop and then use Control Panel, Fonts, to install
them. If the fonts are very large (most Asian fonts are 10mb and
larger but I do not know the size of Hebrew fonts) you can burn them
to a CDRW or CDR and transfer them that way.

That may give you the Hebrew language support you need without
necessarily installing a Hebrew copy of XP. Good luck.
 
N

Noam Nelke

CS said:
There is no patch available. But as I stated above, the computer you
purchased in Israel (English version of XP) was probably setup for
that local area. That's why you have the fonts. Why don't you copy
the fonts from your desktop to the laptop? Copy them to a temp
folder on the laptop and then use Control Panel, Fonts, to install
them. If the fonts are very large (most Asian fonts are 10mb and
larger but I do not know the size of Hebrew fonts) you can burn them
to a CDRW or CDR and transfer them that way.

That may give you the Hebrew language support you need without
necessarily installing a Hebrew copy of XP. Good luck.

Well, I've already done that. I have a home network so I didn't need
to burn the fonts. The problem is, as I stated before, that I can't
use some (most) of the fonts in Word, and that I can't see hebrew
variations of fonts (eventhough I can use them). It's really
frustrating... I consider myself computer literate and I keep
convincing myself there's a setting I've overlooked or something, but
as time goes by, and I talk to more people I come closer and closer to
the conclusion that it's probably a different version of Windows after
all. It's just a bummer, that's all. Again, I'd feel much better if I
talked to someone else with the same problem..... There's a saying in
Hebrew: A problem of many is half a consolation.

Thanks anyhow...
 
A

ayadam

I have that problem on 3 computers in my office all win and office xp
[Hebrew: A problem of many is half a consolation.

Thanks anyhow... [/B


-
ayada
 
Y

yoni

Hi, I've got an american laptop with american windows xp home editio
freshly installed. I had some problems with hebrew but they are al
solved (hopefully...).

try: control panel -> regional and languege options ->

advanced tab -> languege for non-unicode programs -> choose hebrew

and also at the same tab: code page conversion tables -> put a V i
every checkbox with "hebrew" in the text next to it

Hope it helps

Yon


-
yon
 
F

Fabian

Hi it is the same type of problem I have but experienced differently. I
use a swedish WinXp and the keyboard set for swedish letters. But I also
develop projects in different languages i Macromedia Director which
does not support Unicode.
Right now I cannot get the Portuguese version of the project to work on
my computer even if I mark all conversion files containing Latin,
Portuguese, Eur etc.

This realy will kill this multilanguage project and all project CDs
distributed all over. And, I will probably lose my customer,,,
/Fabian
 

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