print Grayscale(x-rays) and color (clinical image) on the same page

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AndreiB

Dear Sirs:

I would like to print some grayscale images (x-rays) and some clinical
pictures (jpg) on the same page.

I create the file using adobe, and that file has the xrays and the
clinical images. And when I print the file the xrays images are not
grayscale but colour.

When I print x-rays alone in a pdf, (with no clinical images), I can
see grayscale with no problem.

It seems that the combination of grayscale and colour make the printer
(HP Color Laserjet 2600n) print all in colour.

I would like to know if there is a solution.-

Thanks in Advance

Bless,

andrei

(e-mail address removed)
 
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measekite

AndreiB said:
Dear Sirs:

I would like to print some grayscale images (x-rays) and some clinical
pictures (jpg) on the same page.

I create the file using adobe, and that file has the xrays and the
clinical images. And when I print the file the xrays images are not
grayscale but colour.

When I print x-rays alone in a pdf, (with no clinical images), I can
see grayscale with no problem.

It seems that the combination of grayscale and colour make the printer
(HP Color Laserjet 2600n) print all in colour.

I would like to know if there is a solution.-

Thanks in Advance

Bless,

andrei

(e-mail address removed)
Why don't you try a 2 pass solution. First print the greyscale file.
Then using the same paper print the color file. Make sure that each
registers at the appropriate place on the page.
 
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AndreiB

Thanks to everyone for your help.

I think its difficult to print twice, I dont have much time. Its any
other way? a software?

Thanks
Andrei
 
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Bob AZ

Thanks to everyone for your help.

I think its difficult to print twice, I dont have much time. Its any
other way? a software?

Thanks
Andrei








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Bob AZ

I think its difficult to print twice, I dont have much time. Its any
other way? a software?

Thanks

Andrei

I do something similar to this using WordPerfect. Somewhat clumsy
until you figure it out but the results are great.

I import the first image, place it as desired and do it again with the
second image. It would probably go better if the first image was above
the second but you could always do a swap from Portrait to Landscape
as necessary.

Bob AZ
 
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tomm42

Dear Sirs:

I would like to print some grayscale images (x-rays) and some clinical
pictures (jpg) on the same page.

I create the file using adobe, and that file has the xrays and the
clinical images. And when I print the file the xrays images are not
grayscale but colour.

When I print x-rays alone in a pdf, (with no clinical images), I can
see grayscale with no problem.

It seems that the combination of grayscale and colour make the printer
(HP Color Laserjet 2600n) print all in colour.

I would like to know if there is a solution.-

Thanks in Advance

Bless,

andrei

(e-mail address removed)


I do this all the time with retinal images, one color and 3 b&w. My
best results are with an HP B9180 printing on HP Advanced Gloss paper,
though I also had reasonable success with an HP Officejet on HP glossy
film (since discontinued). This is from a noncolor corrected prigram
just setting the Advanced Glossy profile in the printer's preferences
under "color management" in Windows 2000. If you are printing out of
Photoshop make sure you set the correct profile for you printer and
paper. Use a photo paper as a copier paper is useless in this type of
application. So:
1: Use Print With Preview or in PSCS3 Print
2: Have Photoshop Manage Colors checked
3: Use the correct profile, intent should be Relative Colormetric
4: In the printer driver set the correct paper, and size
5: Under Advanced (Epson) or Color (HP) turn off ICM or check
Application Managed Color
6: Go back to Photoshop and print
Using a photo paper greatly helps, copier, plain papers are useless
Helps to have a printer with gray inks
If your program is not color aware learn how to set a profile in
Windows

Tom
 
B

Burt

Thanks to everyone for your help.

I think its difficult to print twice, I dont have much time. Its any
other way? a software?

Thanks
Andrei

It is difficult to get neutral gray tones in color mode with some inkjet
printers. You might try using Photoshop elements or another program to
strip the color out of the xray image before including it in the document
you wish to print. Xrays often have a slight greenish tint which you might
be able to eliminate. The other possibility would be to have a custom
profile made with that would give a more neutral black/gray scale image.
You would then have to know how to deal with custom profiles. There were
some HP inkjet printers that had additional black/gray cartridges that were
to deal with black and white printing. Since I'm happy with my Canon
printers I've not explored the HP line. I have noticed that my ip5000 (four
dye based carts plus a black pigment based cart for text on plain paper)
prints much more neutral grays in black and white pics on photo paper than
my i960 (six dye based carts).
 
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Arthur Entlich

OK, let's see if I have this correct. The x-rays are in monochrome
black and white. They normally have no color. The clinical images are
in color. When they are both printed together, the printer uses colored
inks on both the clinical and X-ray images.

When you say the X-rays are in color, what do you mean by that? Do they
print with a tint all the same color, or are there a number of colors
involved in the Xray images when they print in color?

If they print with a tint, your color management is off. The proper
solution would be to calibrate your computer and printer so that neutral
gray would come out gray on the printer, even if the color inks are used.

You could try converting the X-rays to grayscale images first with
Photoshop and then paste them back into the pages with the colored
clinical images. They *may* neutralized the color cast/tint. If not,
you may have to print as two runs, first print the color images
(Clinical) and then print the paper again, this time printing with the
printer drivers in grayscale for the X-ray images.

Many color inkjet printer will use full color when printing pages that
have some full color portions in them, and will only print in pure black
ink when either told to in the driver, or if the filed detects a very
neutral black or gray image.

Art

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