PowerPoint 2002 Crash (i'm not technical)

[Guest]

I've done my best to read all of the discussion on this board and I think I
kind of understand what is going on but I still can't figure out what to do...

I'm using PPT 2002. I've updated all of my office using Microsoft Office
Update.

Some of the people I work with are using PPT 2003 and I think my
presentations crash because I think some of the images they have saved in
2003.

I read http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00720.htm about the problem...
BUT how can I fix the issue. It says that the person who created the
presentation using 2003 has to save the image as PNG or JPG. Doughtfull that
the person on the other end will want to resave the 20+ images.

I don't want to use 2003 b/c I rely heavely on drawing straight lines with
my pen during my presentations. 2002 holding down the Shift key give me that
but 2003 they took the feature away. This is a deal breaker for me.

Really not sure why my PPT crash...

Please help,
Thanks,
Joe

 

[Echo S]

What are you doing when PPT crashes?

Do you receive any error messages? If so, what do they say?

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Can you open the presentations at all, or do they crash PPT when you try to open
them?

 

[Guest]

I couldn't narrow down the exact sequience but I was in a slide sorter view
with two differ PPT's open. I was copying a page from one PPT to another. I
would make edits and save... during a save, my PPT would crash

This happend quite a few times. Eventually the file could not open in PPT.
the error message said something like the file was not a PPT file.

What are you doing when PPT crashes?

Do you receive any error messages? If so, what do they say?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
PPTLive! Sept 17-20, 2006 http://www.pptlive.com

I've done my best to read all of the discussion on this board and I think
I
kind of understand what is going on but I still can't figure out what to
do...

I'm using PPT 2002. I've updated all of my office using Microsoft Office
Update.

Some of the people I work with are using PPT 2003 and I think my
presentations crash because I think some of the images they have saved in
2003.

I read http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00720.htm about the problem...
BUT how can I fix the issue. It says that the person who created the
presentation using 2003 has to save the image as PNG or JPG. Doughtfull
that
the person on the other end will want to resave the 20+ images.

I don't want to use 2003 b/c I rely heavely on drawing straight lines with
my pen during my presentations. 2002 holding down the Shift key give me
that
but 2003 they took the feature away. This is a deal breaker for me.

Really not sure why my PPT crash...

Please help,
Thanks,
Joe

 

[Guest]

at first yes. then eventually I couldn't open the file.

joe

 

[Echo S]

Well, if you can't open the file, that's one issue we need to tackle.

See if anything here lets you recover it:

Recovering a corrupt presentation
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00108.htm

If you get it open, I'd recommend "round tripping" it to hopefully weed out
the woollies. http://www.pptworkbench.com/html/round_trip.htm

As for PPT crashing, does it crash if you open a new, blank presentation,
add a couple of photos and cliparts, and then try to copy them to a new,
blank presentation?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
PPTLive! Sept 17-20, 2006 http://www.pptlive.com

I couldn't narrow down the exact sequience but I was in a slide sorter view
with two differ PPT's open. I was copying a page from one PPT to another.
I
would make edits and save... during a save, my PPT would crash

This happend quite a few times. Eventually the file could not open in
PPT.
the error message said something like the file was not a PPT file.

What are you doing when PPT crashes?

Do you receive any error messages? If so, what do they say?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
PPTLive! Sept 17-20, 2006 http://www.pptlive.com

I've done my best to read all of the discussion on this board and I
think
I
kind of understand what is going on but I still can't figure out what
to
do...

I'm using PPT 2002. I've updated all of my office using Microsoft
Office
Update.

Some of the people I work with are using PPT 2003 and I think my
presentations crash because I think some of the images they have saved
in
2003.

I read http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00720.htm about the problem...
BUT how can I fix the issue. It says that the person who created the
presentation using 2003 has to save the image as PNG or JPG.
Doughtfull
that
the person on the other end will want to resave the 20+ images.

I don't want to use 2003 b/c I rely heavely on drawing straight lines
with
my pen during my presentations. 2002 holding down the Shift key give
me
that
but 2003 they took the feature away. This is a deal breaker for me.

Really not sure why my PPT crash...

Please help,
Thanks,
Joe

 

[Guest]

i've given up on opening a corrupt PPT. Easier for me to just redo the file.

I can follow the "round tripping" I'll do this...

Ass for the PPT crashing... It seems to happen after I've had the file open
after making edits to slides. I am not adding any new photos or clipart.
I'm moving slides from one PPT to another. The PPT crashes when I try to
save the file. the save get about 80% saved and just dies.

Still trying to duplicate the sequesnce of events.

One verables to my environment that has changes is that I'm useing a new IBM
T60 dual processor laptop. do you think their is a conflict here?

Well, if you can't open the file, that's one issue we need to tackle.

See if anything here lets you recover it:

Recovering a corrupt presentation
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00108.htm

If you get it open, I'd recommend "round tripping" it to hopefully weed out
the woollies. http://www.pptworkbench.com/html/round_trip.htm

As for PPT crashing, does it crash if you open a new, blank presentation,
add a couple of photos and cliparts, and then try to copy them to a new,
blank presentation?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
PPTLive! Sept 17-20, 2006 http://www.pptlive.com

I couldn't narrow down the exact sequience but I was in a slide sorter view
with two differ PPT's open. I was copying a page from one PPT to another.
I
would make edits and save... during a save, my PPT would crash

This happend quite a few times. Eventually the file could not open in
PPT.
the error message said something like the file was not a PPT file.

What are you doing when PPT crashes?

Do you receive any error messages? If so, what do they say?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
PPTLive! Sept 17-20, 2006 http://www.pptlive.com


I've done my best to read all of the discussion on this board and I
think
I
kind of understand what is going on but I still can't figure out what
to
do...

I'm using PPT 2002. I've updated all of my office using Microsoft
Office
Update.

Some of the people I work with are using PPT 2003 and I think my
presentations crash because I think some of the images they have saved
in
2003.

I read http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00720.htm about the problem...
BUT how can I fix the issue. It says that the person who created the
presentation using 2003 has to save the image as PNG or JPG.
Doughtfull
that
the person on the other end will want to resave the 20+ images.

I don't want to use 2003 b/c I rely heavely on drawing straight lines
with
my pen during my presentations. 2002 holding down the Shift key give
me
that
but 2003 they took the feature away. This is a deal breaker for me.

Really not sure why my PPT crash...

Please help,
Thanks,
Joe

 

[Echo S]

Okay, then I would do all of these things:

Do this before using PowerPoint seriously
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00034.htm

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
PPTLive! Sept 17-20, 2006 http://www.pptlive.com

i've given up on opening a corrupt PPT. Easier for me to just redo the
file.

I can follow the "round tripping" I'll do this...

Ass for the PPT crashing... It seems to happen after I've had the file
open
after making edits to slides. I am not adding any new photos or clipart.
I'm moving slides from one PPT to another. The PPT crashes when I try to
save the file. the save get about 80% saved and just dies.

Still trying to duplicate the sequesnce of events.

One verables to my environment that has changes is that I'm useing a new
IBM
T60 dual processor laptop. do you think their is a conflict here?

Well, if you can't open the file, that's one issue we need to tackle.

See if anything here lets you recover it:

Recovering a corrupt presentation
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00108.htm

If you get it open, I'd recommend "round tripping" it to hopefully weed
out
the woollies. http://www.pptworkbench.com/html/round_trip.htm

As for PPT crashing, does it crash if you open a new, blank presentation,
add a couple of photos and cliparts, and then try to copy them to a new,
blank presentation?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
PPTLive! Sept 17-20, 2006 http://www.pptlive.com

I couldn't narrow down the exact sequience but I was in a slide sorter
view
with two differ PPT's open. I was copying a page from one PPT to
another.
I
would make edits and save... during a save, my PPT would crash

This happend quite a few times. Eventually the file could not open in
PPT.
the error message said something like the file was not a PPT file.



:

What are you doing when PPT crashes?

Do you receive any error messages? If so, what do they say?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
PPTLive! Sept 17-20, 2006 http://www.pptlive.com


I've done my best to read all of the discussion on this board and I
think
I
kind of understand what is going on but I still can't figure out
what
to
do...

I'm using PPT 2002. I've updated all of my office using Microsoft
Office
Update.

Some of the people I work with are using PPT 2003 and I think my
presentations crash because I think some of the images they have
saved
in
2003.

I read http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00720.htm about the problem...
BUT how can I fix the issue. It says that the person who created
the
presentation using 2003 has to save the image as PNG or JPG.
Doughtfull
that
the person on the other end will want to resave the 20+ images.

I don't want to use 2003 b/c I rely heavely on drawing straight
lines
with
my pen during my presentations. 2002 holding down the Shift key
give
me
that
but 2003 they took the feature away. This is a deal breaker for me.

Really not sure why my PPT crash...

Please help,
Thanks,
Joe

 

[Guest]

all fine stuff. I periodically do this as well. I've often review the group
discussion an have noted this as a reply for other things as well.

This, along with "round tripping" seems to help.

Question, it there a version of PPT later then version 2002 that offers the
presenter the ability to draw a straight line when in PEN mode?

Can I just upgrade PowerPoint and not the other office applications (excel,
word etc.)?

Thanks,
Joe

Okay, then I would do all of these things:

Do this before using PowerPoint seriously
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00034.htm

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
PPTLive! Sept 17-20, 2006 http://www.pptlive.com

i've given up on opening a corrupt PPT. Easier for me to just redo the
file.

I can follow the "round tripping" I'll do this...

Ass for the PPT crashing... It seems to happen after I've had the file
open
after making edits to slides. I am not adding any new photos or clipart.
I'm moving slides from one PPT to another. The PPT crashes when I try to
save the file. the save get about 80% saved and just dies.

Still trying to duplicate the sequesnce of events.

One verables to my environment that has changes is that I'm useing a new
IBM
T60 dual processor laptop. do you think their is a conflict here?

Well, if you can't open the file, that's one issue we need to tackle.

See if anything here lets you recover it:

Recovering a corrupt presentation
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00108.htm

If you get it open, I'd recommend "round tripping" it to hopefully weed
out
the woollies. http://www.pptworkbench.com/html/round_trip.htm

As for PPT crashing, does it crash if you open a new, blank presentation,
add a couple of photos and cliparts, and then try to copy them to a new,
blank presentation?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
PPTLive! Sept 17-20, 2006 http://www.pptlive.com


I couldn't narrow down the exact sequience but I was in a slide sorter
view
with two differ PPT's open. I was copying a page from one PPT to
another.
I
would make edits and save... during a save, my PPT would crash

This happend quite a few times. Eventually the file could not open in
PPT.
the error message said something like the file was not a PPT file.



:

What are you doing when PPT crashes?

Do you receive any error messages? If so, what do they say?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
PPTLive! Sept 17-20, 2006 http://www.pptlive.com


I've done my best to read all of the discussion on this board and I
think
I
kind of understand what is going on but I still can't figure out
what
to
do...

I'm using PPT 2002. I've updated all of my office using Microsoft
Office
Update.

Some of the people I work with are using PPT 2003 and I think my
presentations crash because I think some of the images they have
saved
in
2003.

I read http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00720.htm about the problem...
BUT how can I fix the issue. It says that the person who created
the
presentation using 2003 has to save the image as PNG or JPG.
Doughtfull
that
the person on the other end will want to resave the 20+ images.

I don't want to use 2003 b/c I rely heavely on drawing straight
lines
with
my pen during my presentations. 2002 holding down the Shift key
give
me
that
but 2003 they took the feature away. This is a deal breaker for me.

Really not sure why my PPT crash...

Please help,
Thanks,
Joe

 

[Echo S]

all fine stuff. I periodically do this as well. I've often review the
group
discussion an have noted this as a reply for other things as well.

This, along with "round tripping" seems to help.

Well, I'm glad to hear those helped. If you haven't already, you might try
locating your *.PCB file and deleting it. Do this while PPT is closed! The
*.PCB is your toolbar. PPT will regenerate its default toolbars when you
next start it up, but you'll lose any customizations you may have made.

Regardless, it often helps with those oddball crashes that can't be pinned
down to anything specific.

Question, it there a version of PPT later then version 2002 that offers
the
presenter the ability to draw a straight line when in PEN mode?

Unfortunately, no. 2003 doesn't (as you're aware, it seems), and I just
tried in 2007 Beta 2, and it doesn't seem to do it, either.

Can I just upgrade PowerPoint and not the other office applications
(excel,
word etc.)?

Absolutely.

 

[Guest]

Thanks again, I'm doing everything you suggest. I just deleted the PCB file.
I did/do use a customized toolbar. Are you suggesting the I don't make any
custimzations to PPT Toolbars?

 

[Echo S]

Thanks again, I'm doing everything you suggest. I just deleted the PCB
file.
I did/do use a customized toolbar. Are you suggesting the I don't make
any
custimzations to PPT Toolbars?

No, you can make customizations. It's just that, over time, sometimes the
PCB file gets wonky. I know I had one that grew to, like, 1.5MB in size!
That's crazy big! I deleted it, and a whole slew of oddball crashes went
away.

----
Your replied also said that I can upgrade just specific application like
PowerPoint to 2003 and not the others. Maybe I'm new to this but
everytime I
go into a store I only see Office upgrades not PPT. How can I upgrade
just
one or a few of the applictions in Office?

You may have to order the PPT 2003 Upgrade online. I suspect most bricks and
mortar stores don't carry it because most of their customers will want to
just upgrade Office.