Power failure during Windows 7 defrag (x64 Ultimate edition)

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helloworld

You will understand that I am both Castor Nageur and helloworld.
I am posting from 2 different usenet interfaces and always forget
this.
Sorry.
 
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Arno

That's a pity !
So the only way I have to get around this is to buy an UPS but this
will not protect against system crashes.

It will, actually. The problem is removal of power from the
disk. As long as the disk itself does not crash, you are fine
with an UPS.

Disk firmware crashes are very, very rare, the only instances
I have observed are in my 24/7 fileserver/firewall, where about
once per year one of the 3 2.5" disks drops out of the RAID
becoming completely unresponsible. A power cycle of just that
one disk is the only way to fix this. It then comes up with no
problems or errors in ints log at all. This happened with Samsung,
WD and Seagate disks. So my observed rate of 2.5" HDD
software crass is about 1 in 3 years when running them 24/7.
I never had such a crash with 3.5" drives.
I can not disagree.
I am an IT programmer and all our critical process are running on Unix
platforms.
We have some Unix workstations which have been running for 3 years non-
stop (and still running !).

That is a typical experience. Even my humble Linux firewall/fileserver
had once 400 days uptime. Then I wanted to try a new kernel ;-)

With regard to reliability, MS cannot compete on merit.
Unfortunately they do not need to.
But I prefer the Windows GUI especially the Windows 7 one :) so you
are right, this is a nice toy.

Personally, I like fvwm2 much better. I do use Win7 for gaming
though and (virtualized) in the cases where I have to work with
MS Office (another incompetently designed and implemented atrocity).

Gaming is also the one area where Linux sucks: Support for new
graphics cards is really bad and takes forever. I think this is
a result from lower customer numbers though and the x.org
project still not really having its stuff together. Although
it has gotten better when they split off from the main
xfree project. There are usable vendor drivers for a bit older
cards now and I expect the situation will get slowly better.

Arno
 
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John Turco

helloworld said:
You will understand that I am both Castor Nageur and helloworld.
I am posting from 2 different usenet interfaces and always forget
this.

"Castor Nageur"

"Guilbert Stabilo"

"Paul Laurent"

Do you have a "split personality" or something, perhaps?

It's all right.
 
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John Turco

Arno wrote:

Gaming is also the one area where Linux sucks: Support for new
graphics cards is really bad and takes forever.

<edited

Being a mature adult and a serious Swiss...why are you still a
gamer, to begin with?
 
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Arno

John Turco said:
Arno wrote:
Being a mature adult and a serious Swiss...why are you still a
gamer, to begin with?

Why "still"? I gave up TV 8 years ago (became far to infantile
and supid for me) and gaming is my most significant source
of entertainment. Maybe I am just not afraid to admit that.

Arno
 
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Castor Nageur

 "Castor Nageur"

 "Guilbert Stabilo"

 "Paul Laurent"

.... and you also forgot "helloworld" ;-)
Do you have a "split personality" or something, perhaps?

At the beginning, I was just trying to stay "anonymous" on Internet
but as you can see, I am quite bad at that.
 
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John Turco

Arno said:
Why "still"?

Oh, I simply jumble gaming and younger PC users, together. Chess
and pinball interested me most, during my early computing days
(mid-to-late 1990's).
I gave up TV 8 years ago (became far to infantile and supid for
me) and gaming is my most significant source of entertainment.

Same here, except I'd abandoned both television and magazines,
by 1999.

Although, I'm surprised Switzerland's TV programming is as
"infantile" as you describe. I thought such "pop culture"
nonsense is largely limited to English-speaking countries,
like mine (U.S.A.)?
Maybe I am just not afraid to admit that.

Arno

No shame in that.
 
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John Turco

Castor said:
... and you also forgot "helloworld" ;-)

I didn't include it, because it's just a "handle."
At the beginning, I was just trying to stay "anonymous" on Internet
but as you can see, I am quite bad at that.

On Usenet, I've always used my real name, dating to February of 1996.
 
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Rod Speed

John Turco wrote
Arno wrote
Oh, I simply jumble gaming and younger PC users,
together. Chess and pinball interested me most,
during my early computing days (mid-to-late 1990's).
Same here, except I'd abandoned both television and magazines, by 1999.

You're missing out on quite a bit, particularly Ric Burn's magnificent documentarys.

Niel Ferguson too.

So what do you do instead ?
Although, I'm surprised Switzerland's TV programming is as
"infantile" as you describe. I thought such "pop culture" nonsense
is largely limited to English-speaking countries, like mine (U.S.A.)?

Fraid not, for the same reason.
 
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John Turco

Rod said:
You're missing out on quite a bit, particularly Ric Burn's magnificent
documentarys.

Niel Ferguson too.

Are such individuals "poms" and/or Aussies (as I suspect), or what?
So what do you do instead ?

I obtain the vast majority of my information/entertainment, online.
Fraid not, for the same reason.

C'mon, Rod, let's face it: Outside of literature, what have "Anglo-Saxon"
countries accomplished, artistically? They've never been noted for great
music or painting, I fear.

However, science and technology are completely different matters. Those
haughty Germans haven't monopolized either area, despite any delusions
to the contrary.
 
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Rod Speed

John Turco wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Are such individuals "poms" and/or Aussies (as I suspect), or what?

Ferguson is a pom, since moved to the US.

Burn is a yank.
I obtain the vast majority of my information/entertainment, online.

Clearly you havent managed to find either of them.
C'mon, Rod, let's face it: Outside of literature, what have
"Anglo-Saxon" countries accomplished, artistically?

Oh, just a few useless baubles like Reich, Glass, Purcell, Pollack, the Beatles etc etc etc.

And you cant just ignore literature either, in spades when Shakespeare is in there.
They've never been noted for great music or painting, I fear.

You're wrong.
 
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Arno

Are such individuals "poms" and/or Aussies (as I suspect), or what?
I obtain the vast majority of my information/entertainment, online.
C'mon, Rod, let's face it: Outside of literature, what have "Anglo-Saxon"
countries accomplished, artistically? They've never been noted for great
music or painting, I fear.
However, science and technology are completely different matters. Those
haughty Germans haven't monopolized either area, despite any delusions
to the contrary.

You will find that they usually were just a little behind. For
example, Newtons integral Theory was later found to be basically
unusable (except by physicists) and replaced by the one frm
Leibnitz. Which Newton tried to have suppressed.

Arno
 
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John Turco

Rod said:
Ferguson is a pom, since moved to the US.

Burn is a yank.

Good for him!
Clearly you havent managed to find either of them.

I've done all right, I think.
Oh, just a few useless baubles like Reich, Glass, Purcell, Pollack, the
Beatles etc etc etc.

No, I'm meant classical music, not "Beatles" fluff.
And you cant just ignore literature either, in spades when Shakespeare
is in there.

I didn't "ignore" ol' Bill and his ilk, as I'd plainly written, "Outside
of literature..."
You're wrong.

Ya see, Rod, I give credit where it's due! The "Industrial Revolution"
began in Great Britain (Scotland, specifically) and reached its zenith
in the United States.

The "Johanns-come-latelies" got off to a relatively tardy start, and
never quite caught up.
 
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John Turco

Arno said:
You will find that they usually were just a little behind.

The Anglo-Saxons >came< from Germany, ironically enough. Both English and
German are members of the "West Germanic" language branch.

Surprisingly, then, German is closer to English, than it is (for example)
to Swedish, which is North Germanic.
For example, Newtons integral Theory was later found to be basically
unusable (except by physicists) and replaced by the one frm Leibnitz.
Which Newton tried to have suppressed.

Nonetheless, Issac Newton is generally considered to be history's greatest
scientist.
 
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Rod Speed

John Turco wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Good for him!

I used to claim that the yanks had never produced a
doco worth watching until his magnificent Civil War series.

We've since seen plenty in the American Experience series worth watching and
the other Burns has more recently done one hell of a series on New York too.
I've done all right, I think.

I dont given that you have missed all of those.
No, I'm meant classical music,

Thats what Reich, Glass, Cage, :purcell etc etc etc are.
not "Beatles" fluff.
I didn't "ignore" ol' Bill and his ilk, as I'd plainly written, "Outside of literature..."

I meant that that 'outside of literature' makes no sense.
Ya see, Rod, I give credit where it's due! The "Industrial Revolution"
began in Great Britain (Scotland, specifically) and reached its zenith
in the United States.
The "Johanns-come-latelies" got off to a relatively tardy start, and never quite caught up.

Like hell they didnt with the car industry most obviously.
 
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Rod Speed

John Turco wrote
Arno wrote

A mere child.

A long way behind even on such basic stuff as credit cards etc even now.
The Anglo-Saxons >came< from Germany, ironically enough.

And the Normans didnt.
Both English and German are members of the "West Germanic" language branch.
Surprisingly, then, German is closer to English, than it
is (for example) to Swedish, which is North Germanic.
Nonetheless, Issac Newton is generally considered to be history's greatest scientist.

Thats very arguable indeed.
 
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Arno

The Anglo-Saxons >came< from Germany, ironically enough. Both English and
German are members of the "West Germanic" language branch.
Surprisingly, then, German is closer to English, than it is (for example)
to Swedish, which is North Germanic.
Nonetheless, Issac Newton is generally considered to be history's greatest
scientist.

I know. He definitely does not deserve that. He is not even history's
greates physicist. There, he is one in a row of others and quite a few
were at least as good. And he was a really bad mathematician,
possibly due to an oversized Ego. Einstein got Lorenz to do the
mathematics for him and only did the physics (which he was good
at) himself. (Yes, that is a "Lorenz-Transformation", not an
"Einstein-Transformation"). Newton did the mathematics himself and
botched it rather badly. Without the actual real-world model, he
would not even have been able to do that.

He certainly could be the physicist with the biggest ego ever.
And he did invest considerably in self-promotion. Which makes him
better known and a worse scientist.

Arno
 
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John Turco

Rod said:
I used to claim that the yanks had never produced a doco worth watching until
his magnificent Civil War series.

We've since seen plenty in the American Experience series worth watching and
the other Burns has more recently done one hell of a series on New York too.

I'm sure they're all very engrossing, but...how accurate are they?
I dont given that you have missed all of those.

My early recollections as a child (late 1950's/early 1960's), involve watching
the U.S. documentary shows of that era (e.g., "Biography" and "20th Century").
They were fascinating to me, even then; alas, I question their objectivity and
depth, now.
Thats what Reich, Glass, Cage, :purcell etc etc etc are.

No Beethovens nor Bachs in that bunch, unfortunately.
I meant that that 'outside of literature' makes no sense.

It >does<, to a fair degree.

Define "great" for me, then.
Like hell they didnt with the car industry most obviously.

When did Germany's automotive production overtake Japan's, may I ask?
Johann still ain't the world's "No. 1" industrial power, by a long
shot -- and he >never will be<, either.
 
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John Turco

Rod said:
A mere child.

Yes, one might say so. I started out with a "Pionex" 486DX2/66MHz
tower (4MB RAM, 425MB hard disk); it cost circa $500.00 USD, in
1995.

(Pretty powerful puppy in its day, and a relative latecomer.)
A long way behind even on such basic stuff as credit cards etc
even now.

Doesn't Britain lead the world, in credit card transactions? (Or
were you referring to Germany, instead?)
And the Normans didnt.

No, but, they were descended from Vikings. I'm aware that's trivial,
as the Normans were thoroughly Frenchified and strongly altered the
English language, causing it to diverge from German.
Thats very arguable indeed.

Which is why the word "generally" was used. Opinions vary widely, and
cultural bias always exists.
 

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