Polish 214 keyboard flaws

[Guest]

The Polish 214 keyboard has the following flaws:

It is impossible to enter characters: [ (opening bracket), ] (closing
bracket), | (vertical bar). One has to switch the keyboard or enter with
Alt-91, Alt-93, Alt-124 respectively. On the contrary, it is easier to do it
with {}\ (Alt-B, Alt-N, Alt-Q). Alt-W translates to ¦ (broken vertical bar),
a completely useless character.

Letters ą (a with ogonek), ę (e with ogonek), ś (es with acute accent), ć
(ce with acute accent), ż (zed with dot above), ń (en with acute accent), ó
(o with acute accent), ź (zed with acute accent) do not change to their upper
case conuterparts when the Caps Lock key is pressed. They should because
they are letters. Caps Lock should affect all letters.

The combination ˇl (caron + el) should produce the composite letter ľ (el
with caron) by analogy to the method to obtain Ä (ce with caron). The same
for the uppercase counterpart, Ľ. The only workaround is to type Alt-150 and
Alt-149.

 

[Wesley Vogel]

How many folks here, do ya suppose, are using a Polish keyboard?

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[Guest]

It is not a question of using, it is a question of designing. I have to use
what you design, right? How many folks down there design keyboard layouts?
I hope there is at least one.

Chris

How many folks here, do ya suppose, are using a Polish keyboard?

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Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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The Polish 214 keyboard has the following flaws:

It is impossible to enter characters: [ (opening bracket), ] (closing
bracket), | (vertical bar). One has to switch the keyboard or enter with
Alt-91, Alt-93, Alt-124 respectively. On the contrary, it is easier to
do it with {}\ (Alt-B, Alt-N, Alt-Q). Alt-W translates to ¦ (broken
vertical bar), a completely useless character.

Letters Ä… (a with ogonek), Ä™ (e with ogonek), Å› (es with acute
accent), ć (ce with acute accent), ż (zed with dot above), ń (en with
acute accent), ó (o with acute accent), ź (zed with acute accent) do
not change to their upper case conuterparts when the Caps Lock key is
pressed. They should because they are letters. Caps Lock should affect
all letters.

The combination ˇl (caron + el) should produce the composite letter ľ
(el with caron) by analogy to the method to obtain Ä (ce with caron).
The same for the uppercase counterpart, Ľ. The only workaround is to
type Alt-150 and Alt-149.

 

[Wesley Vogel]

If you had to use what I designed, you'd be even worse off. ;-)

I am just an electrician that knows a little about Windows, I do not design
anything.

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Wes
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It is not a question of using, it is a question of designing. I have to
use what you design, right? How many folks down there design keyboard
layouts? I hope there is at least one.

Chris

How many folks here, do ya suppose, are using a Polish keyboard?

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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The Polish 214 keyboard has the following flaws:

It is impossible to enter characters: [ (opening bracket), ] (closing
bracket), | (vertical bar). One has to switch the keyboard or enter
with Alt-91, Alt-93, Alt-124 respectively. On the contrary, it is
easier to
do it with {}\ (Alt-B, Alt-N, Alt-Q). Alt-W translates to ¦ (broken
vertical bar), a completely useless character.

Letters Ä… (a with ogonek), Ä™ (e with ogonek), Å› (es with
acute accent), ć (ce with acute accent), ż (zed with dot above),
ń (en with acute accent), ó (o with acute accent), ź (zed
with acute accent) do
not change to their upper case conuterparts when the Caps Lock key is
pressed. They should because they are letters. Caps Lock should affect
all letters.

The combination ˇl (caron + el) should produce the composite letter
ľ (el with caron) by analogy to the method to obtain Ġ(ce with
caron).
The same for the uppercase counterpart, Ľ. The only workaround is to
type Alt-150 and Alt-149.

 

[Guest]

I hope there are also other readers to this group. Microsoft product
engineers in particular.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

I hope there are also other readers to this group. Microsoft product
engineers in particular.

It appears that you think you are addressing Microsoft here. But you're not.
This is peer support newsgroup. We are all just Windows XP users, helping
each other when we can. We are not Microsoft employees; even those of us
with the Microsoft MVP title are just volunteers who have been recognized by
Microsoft for supplying consistently helpful advice. You see a very
occasional Microsoft employee here, but when you do, he's here posting
unofficially on his own time.

So if you have suggestions for Microsoft to improve their products, this
isn't a good place to do it, and you should contact Microsoft directly.

 

[Guest]

Oh I see. Could someone please forward the problem to Microsoft? I cannot
because I have got an OEM OS and they would not listen to me because of my
product ID.

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Report a Microsoft Product Bug
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/contactbug

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[Guest]

It was a very bad idea. I wasted a 10 min call from Poland to the US. The
assistant that answered the call had a terrible Hindi accent. It was nearly
impossible to understand it. She listened to my description and… asked me
for the product ID. She did it because she thought I wanted technical
assistance. It is definitely not the place to report any bugs.
Chris

 

[Guest]

And besides, the description of the link contradicts the page title. It
starts with "If you think you have found a bug in a Microsoft product", and
it should rather end with "you are terribly wrong" than "call us"—according
to Microsoft's attitude. It would save me time and money I have to pay for
the long-distance call.
Chris

 

[Wesley Vogel]

It was a very bad idea. I wasted a 10 min call from Poland to the US.

The assistant that answered the call had a terrible Hindi accent.

Your call went ot India, not the U.S. At least it was toll free. ;-)

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[Guest]

Your call went ot India, not the U.S. At least it was toll free. ;-)

I do not think so. I was warned at the beginning that international rates
apply.
Chris