PM 8 doesn't move NTFS partitions?

[Guest]

I've been trying to use Partition Magic 8 to move a partition on a hard drive.
It tells me it has to shut down to do this, and eveything else looks ok but when
I restart the partition is the same as before. I've tried this several times.
Using on Win 2000 Pro, 9 gig SCSI with 2 partitions (C: @ 3.5 gb and D: @ 5.5
gb). I want C: @ 5 gb and D: @ 4 gb.

 

[Michael Kimmer]

I've been trying to use Partition Magic 8 to move a partition on a
hard drive. It tells me it has to shut down to do this, and eveything
else looks ok but when I restart the partition is the same as before.
I've tried this several times. Using on Win 2000 Pro, 9 gig SCSI with
2 partitions (C: @ 3.5 gb and D: @ 5.5 gb). I want C: @ 5 gb and D:
@ 4 gb.

And when you start PM 8 directly from the CD and do the same as you did in
Windows?
If that works then the problem is something in Windows...

Moving an NTFS (either Windows 2000 or XP) partition should not cause a
problem...done it so many times already!

--
M.f.G.
Michael Kimmer

"Ein Tag an dem Du nicht lächelst ist ein verlorener Tag"
"Eine Nacht in der Du nicht schläfst ist eine verschlafene Nacht"

 

[Mr. Grinch]

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Moving an NTFS (either Windows 2000 or XP) partition should not cause a
problem...done it so many times already!

The last version of PM I tried did complain if it saw that I had "server"
versions of 2000. They sell the product to use for "servers" under another
name... forget which. But the poster says he's using Pro so it shouldn't be
an issue... unless he's also got a copy of server somewhere as well.

 

[Michael Kimmer]

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The last version of PM I tried did complain if it saw that I had
"server" versions of 2000. They sell the product to use for
"servers" under another name... forget which. But the poster says
he's using Pro so it shouldn't be an issue... unless he's also got a
copy of server somewhere as well.

The 'PartitionMagic for servers' is called VolumeManage 2.0.
http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?ProductID=345&EID=0

he's using Pro so it shouldn't be an issue... unless he's also got a
copy of server somewhere as well.

Not very likely. If PM 8.0 finds a W2K server installation during setup it
will abandon the installation.
The fact that the NTFS volume is untouched indicates that there is an issue
on NTFS level.

Best thing for him to try is to CHKDSK the partition to be moved prior to a
PM session and do it outside Windows. Just start M 8.0 directly from the PM
8.0 CD or rescue disks

--
M.f.G.
Michael Kimmer

"Ein Tag an dem Du nicht lächelst ist ein verlorener Tag"
"Eine Nacht in der Du nicht schläfst ist eine verschlafene Nacht"

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

And when you start PM 8 directly from the CD and do the same as you did in
Windows?
If that works then the problem is something in Windows...

Yeah, obviously can't be PM. They only needed 8 tries to get it right.
But then, maybe they didn't.

 

[Joep]

Everything looks okay ... What do you mean by that? *What* do you actually
see? After PM reboots the PC it will run in the pre-boot mode. It will first
check the disk and if it finds anomalies, it will print an error message and
reboot again. What does it tell you?

 

[Joep]

Yeah, obviously can't be PM. They only needed 8 tries to get it right.
But then, maybe they didn't.

Although at some point I even thought to myself "well, maybe Folkert ain't
that bad after all" (although you may not even care what I think), lately
you're really succeeding in behaving like a complete prick. All you can do
is ridiculing other people's contributions and at the same time you fail to
make any constructive comments or suggest solutions of your own. You're
whining about how people set up (or fail to) their news reader is becoming
pretty boring as well. It is good to correct people when they have their
facts wrong, the way you do it is a bit silly. Just tell 'm where they went
wrong and replace false facts with the right ones.

If you did indeed memorize ATA specs then maybe you can distill some useful
comments and suggestions out of that 'knowledge'. So, if someone posts an
erroronous comment, rather than suggesting that they don't know what they're
on about, you may want to correct their view with some facts from the ATA
specs. When doing so, please keep in mind that many people who request help
are looking for solutions, not some boring ATA facts. Try to keep it
practical.

About PM: It may have it's flaws, like any other software will have it's
flaws. I can surely point out some things I'd like them to handle in a
different manner. If you claim they needed 8 versions to get it right, you
obviously don't have a clue what you're on about. Since PM was introduced,
disks have grown, file systems have changed, new file systems saw the light
and new functionality has been added. Those are facts. Yes, and it's also a
fact that people have lost data after using PM, it's why they recommend
backups before using it. I use it years already and have never lost any data
while using the program, I am sure many others have used it succesfully,
it's the people that don't post. Your contribution didn't help anyone one
bit.

 

[Carl Farrington]

And when you start PM 8 directly from the CD and do the same as you
did in
Windows?
If that works then the problem is something in Windows...

Yeah, obviously can't be PM. They only needed 8 tries to get it right.[/QUOTE]

I regularly use PM 4 since it doesn't differentiate between a NT/2000 Server
and Workstation.
You are obviously talking utter crap.

 

[That guy]

I've been trying to use Partition Magic 8 to move a partition on a

And when you start PM 8 directly from the CD and do the same as you did in
Windows? If that works then the problem is something in Windows...

Haven't tried it. Shouldn't it work within Windows? I didn't read anything in
the Help files mentioning booting up with it.

 

[That guy]

Moving an NTFS (either Windows 2000 or XP) partition should not cause a

The last version of PM I tried did complain if it saw that I had "server"
versions of 2000. They sell the product to use for "servers" under another
name... forget which. But the poster says he's using Pro so it shouldn't be
an issue... unless he's also got a copy of server somewhere as well.

Not a server. Just Win 2000 Pro with latest updates.

 

[That guy]

I've been trying to use Partition Magic 8 to move a partition on a

Yeah, obviously can't be PM. They only needed 8 tries to get it right.
But then, maybe they didn't.

Does anyone have any recommendations for other software to move Partitions in
Win 2000 Pro?

 

[That guy]

I've been trying to use Partition Magic 8 to move a partition on a hard

Everything looks okay ... What do you mean by that?

It doesn't give me any errors. Actually it fixed an error then there were no
more.

*What* do you actually see?

It tells me it has to restart to complete its tasks. After restarting the
partitions are the same as before.

After PM reboots the PC it will run in the pre-boot mode.

It didn't. It restarted normally. I'm not running PM off the CD. Do I need
to?

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

I regularly use PM 4 since it doesn't differentiate between a NT/2000
Server and Workstation.

Oops, that obviously must have hurted their sales.

 

[Joep]

It didn't. It restarted normally. I'm not running PM off the CD. Do I need
to?

Well you can try. Error messages (if any) will be more clear. By running the
DOS version you also skip the reboot thing, once you click apply it will
immediately ... apply. Also, you may be able to find out what's wrong by
having a look at PM's logfile pq_debug in the windows/system32 folder.
Actual error numbers should be reported there.

 

[Mr. Grinch]

Not a server. Just Win 2000 Pro with latest updates.

Thought as much. Just mentioned it on the slim chance that you might have
it.

This probably is not much help if you really want to use PM. I gave PM a few
chances, and didn't like the results. I wanted the results to be the same as
if I'd run fdisk, but often I came up with different results. On top of
that, I hated doing a backup before running PM, then sitting and waiting to
see if PM would work for me or not. I mean, if I have the time to do a
backup, then why not just blow away the partitions and go crazy with fdisk,
then restore? Many times I felt that doing a restore was faster than letting
PM do it's thing and hoping that it worked OK. At least with a restore I
knew exactly what I was getting. If I'm going through all the trouble of
making a good backup, why not use it?

What I do is backup all non-system partitions just with robocopy to another
volume or disk. If for some reason I don't want to re-install the OS, then I
backup the boot / os partition with a disk-imaging system like Ghost. Then
run fdisk, set things up the way I want them, and restore the boot OS with
Ghost. Boot up into my restored OS, and run robocopy to copy the data back
to the resized volume I want.

Right now I have my first drive as dual boot, C: is WinME, D: is 2003, and E:
has some apps/drivers/app installs. I keep running out of space on D: so I'll
be doing the partition image backup / resize with fdisk / restore process
rather than use PM. It's free, it works, and I know what the results will be.
The only thing that bugs me fdisk is how long it takes when making /
verifying large partitions, but it's not that bad.

Usually I create several partition images for each OS. One with the vanilla
OS install, another with all the windows updates / service packs, another
with drivers updated, and a final with all apps installed. If I blow
something up that I can't fix, I go back to one of the earlier images as
needed.