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Matteo Riso
Spacey Spade said:
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Why don't you try to use a PHP (or ASP) script on Pricelessware website?
It would be easier to use and it would be easier to define which programs
should be on the list.
Greetings,
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Why don't you try to use a PHP (or ASP) script on Pricelessware website?
It would be easier to use and it would be easier to define which programs
should be on the list.
Greetings,
R
Roger Spencelayh
Hope that makes sense. There are less programs than types because, for
example, the PDF Tool I use is MakePDF, which isn't listed (wasn't
'nominated' in your sample?)
Depending on how you use the results, I think it's basically a good
idea. For example, in the vote Inno Setup got 15 votes. I can easily
imagine that only maybe 16 people who voted use a setup generator,
which would rank it higher than say 1st Page 2000 with 19 votes, when
perhaps 80 voters use Web Creation software. Is that the idea behind
this? Or have I totally lost the plot somewhere
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Roger Spencelayh
Can't see why that would be 'just you'. Why would you vote for a program if
you don't use it? Seems to me if people vote for programs on the basis of
so-and-so says it's great so I'll vote for it, the results could get kinda
skewed.
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Spacey Spade
Hope that makes sense. There are less programs than types because, for
example, the PDF Tool I use is MakePDF, which isn't listed (wasn't
'nominated' in your sample?)
Depending on how you use the results, I think it's basically a good
idea. For example, in the vote Inno Setup got 15 votes. I can easily
imagine that only maybe 16 people who voted use a setup generator,
which would rank it higher than say 1st Page 2000 with 19 votes, when
perhaps 80 voters use Web Creation software. Is that the idea behind
this? Or have I totally lost the plot somewhere
Question answered in discussion thread
Spacey
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Spacey Spade
[snip]
I only put the programs that had 11 votes this go around, for briefness.
You got it. That's the idea. Spacey
Roger Spencelayh said:
I only put the programs that had 11 votes this go around, for briefness.
Depending on how you use the results, I think it's basically a good
idea. For example, in the vote Inno Setup got 15 votes. I can easily
imagine that only maybe 16 people who voted use a setup generator,
which would rank it higher than say 1st Page 2000 with 19 votes, when
perhaps 80 voters use Web Creation software. Is that the idea behind
this? Or have I totally lost the plot somewhere
You got it. That's the idea. Spacey
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Spacey Spade
Question answered in discussion thread
Spacey
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Spacey Spade
Matteo Riso said:
Because I don't know how. Did you just volunteer?
Spacey
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Dave
LEAVE ONLY THE PROGRAM TYPES THAT YOU USE OR HAVE USED.
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Spacey Spade
[snip]
Some members of our newsgroup have presented the idea of "For" and
"Against" voting. A good review here:
You are given 3 options:
If you have used a program and recommend it for Pricelessware, you leave
the "for" vote, and delete the "against" vote.
If you have used a program and don't recommend it, you delete the "for"
vote and leave the "against" vote.
If you have not used the program, you delete both votes.
So far this method appears superior to what is proposed in this thread.
Thanks again for participating.
Spacey
Some members of our newsgroup have presented the idea of "For" and
"Against" voting. A good review here:
You are given 3 options:
If you have used a program and recommend it for Pricelessware, you leave
the "for" vote, and delete the "against" vote.
If you have used a program and don't recommend it, you delete the "for"
vote and leave the "against" vote.
If you have not used the program, you delete both votes.
So far this method appears superior to what is proposed in this thread.
Thanks again for participating.
Spacey
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dszady
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:53:41 GMT Spacey Spade
<[email protected]> you said something I found
interesting in
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<[email protected]> you said something I found
interesting in
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Matteo Riso
Spacey Spade said:Because I don't know how. Did you just volunteer?
(Strange: I can't find this post in OE
so I have to reply fromGoogle)
I don't know PHP but I know some good PHP programmers. I could talk to
them if you want.
Greetings,
Matteo Riso
http://www.zipgenius.it
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Tiger
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Antoine
Spacey Spade said:
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John Fitzsimons
< snip >
I guess differently. Why vote for a program you don't use ? That
doesn't make much sense to me.
Regards, John.
J
John Fitzsimons
That is really silly advice.
Everyone
knows
that
one
should
use
"new" telephone books
for
that.
J
John Fitzsimons
Laziness will ensure that everyone will NOT do that.
Besides, "types" can/should be worked out after the vote. Doing it
before splits votes between categories like we had last year. NOT a
good idea during the initial voting process.
You could perhaps have a "category vote" AFTER the program vote.
Interesting idea perhaps ?
Laziness will ensure that everyone will NOT do that.
A solution ? As below ;
PLEASE PLACE "YES" BESIDE THE PROGRAMS YOU WANT. PUT
NOTHING BESIDE THE PROGRAMS YOU HAVEN'T USED AND
THOSE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR.
EG.
Etc. etc.
Regards, John.
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Spacey Spade
Vote disqualified. You voted for programs that belong to program types
you do not use. Please fix.
R
Roger Johansson
John Fitzsimons said:
This is a good idea. The positive votes for programs is the first step
to select what programs are very good freeware.
And I think the emphasis on categories is not needed at all.
It makes voting complicated, and categories is important only when
people search for programs.
There is very little reason for us to set a limit for the number of
programs in each category.
What does it matter if the voting results in several programs for
roughly the same purpose? It just shows that such programs are very
important and used by many, so it is natural that the voting results
in several such programs.
For the person who is looking for such a program it is just good if he
finds several programs, preferably ranked and described to help him
choose.
I think it would both simplify the voting procedure and give a fair
and useful result if we simply listed all the programs which got
enough positive votes.
(And removed those which people have justified objections to, or voted
against.)
Personally, I would even go so far as including all programs which got
more than say 3 votes, and received no or insignificant objections.
That would result in more programs on the web site, but I think that
is good for the user.
(It might not satisfy those who are trying to create a list of very
few, extremely good programs though. I don't agree with their view of
the purpose and usefulness of the list.)
J
jason
Roger said:
Heck, three votes could just be the author and two friends!
That reminds me, did we ever figure out what to do about anonymous
voters? Did we disqualify them, or did we let them vote? In the above
example, seeing the names of the 3 voters would matter a lot in sorting out
potential fraud.
R
Roger Johansson
jason said:
Maybe 4 or 5 then.
But the current system is wide open to fraud too, and we seem to trust
the current figures.
Usenet is a pretty anonymous medium anyway, it is not hard to set up a
number of identities if anybody wishes to do that, so I don't think
there is much reason to treat anonymous votes any differently than
others.
An anonymous vote is honest about his anonymity. There could be lots
of people around who use false identities without declaring it openly
as the anonymous person does.