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Guest

I am an architect who has been using 35mm slides for years. We have over
3,000 35mm slides and make slide presentations for marketing/interviews and
for client informatiuon that can be 240 slides long.

Now that we are digital (almost totally) we need software that emulates a
slide carosel projector. Dell suggested I use Movie Maker.

However, I need to make slide presentations that I control with a
forward/backward clicker, and ELIMINATE auto play. I sometimes need to stay
on the same slide/pic for 5 to 10 minutes and also have to back-up the
presentation to field questions on a past slide. I can do this in Power
Point but making shows in PP is too combersome for a 200+ slide show and it
is not intuitive (vertical slide timeline), but in Movie Maker I can only set
up an automatic show.

Can Movie Maker slide shows totally at my command, controlled solely by my
USB clicker, and without a picture duration.

If not, is there software out there that 1) in slide show assembly/set-up
looks like a regular slide sorter (multi horizontal lines of slides) with
simple drag and drop, and 2) project in "MANUAL" mode controlled by a USB
clicker just like a slide carosel projector?

Thanks to all who respond!

DFSAL
 
P

PapaJohn \(MVP\)

I don't have a suggestion but Movie Maker doesn't seem like what you want to
use.
 
J

John Inzer

DFSAL said:
I am an architect who has been using 35mm slides for
years. We have over 3,000 35mm slides and make slide
presentations for marketing/interviews and for client
informatiuon that can be 240 slides long.

Now that we are digital (almost totally) we need software
that emulates a slide carosel projector. Dell suggested
I use Movie Maker.

However, I need to make slide presentations that I
control with a forward/backward clicker, and ELIMINATE
auto play. I sometimes need to stay on the same
slide/pic for 5 to 10 minutes and also have to back-up
the presentation to field questions on a past slide. I
can do this in Power Point but making shows in PP is too
combersome for a 200+ slide show and it is not intuitive
(vertical slide timeline), but in Movie Maker I can only
set up an automatic show.

Can Movie Maker slide shows totally at my command,
controlled solely by my USB clicker, and without a
picture duration.

If not, is there software out there that 1) in slide show
assembly/set-up looks like a regular slide sorter (multi
horizontal lines of slides) with simple drag and drop,
and 2) project in "MANUAL" mode controlled by a USB
clicker just like a slide carosel projector?

Thanks to all who respond!

DFSAL
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I don't think Movie Maker is your solution.
Why? Because it makes a movie and you
need a manually controlled slide show.

I could be totally off base here...but couldn't
you do this in Windows Explorer?

Copy all the images for a particular slide
show into a new folder.

Open the folder and go to...View / Thumbnails.

The images can be sorted by drag and drop.
(if the thumbs are too small for viewing and
sorting...you can install the free PowerToy...
TweakUI and increase the size of the thumbs)

Windows XP PowerToys / free download
http://tinyurl.com/36n
(download the one that says:
TweakUI.exe 147 KB)

Once the images are sorted you can number
them by going to...Edit / Select All...right click
the first image and from the menu choose...
Rename.

Enter a name...

Slide Show (1).jpg

Press...Enter.

The remaining files will be renamed:
Slide Show (1).jpg
Slide Show (2).jpg
Slide Show (3).jpg
etc...

In your Picture Tasks pane...you can click:
"View as slide show" (this should display a
full screen slide show)

You can pause the slide show with your
Space Bar and the images can be advanced
forward or backward with your arrow keys.
(pressing the space bar again will restart the
slide show)

If you want an automatic slide show...the
duration can be adjusted with TweakUI.

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Making Good Newsgroup Posts
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
 
G

GW

That's what I'd do, too - use an HTML slideshow within a browser.
Either that or use Picasa. It will give you the advantage of not only
showing slideshows, but helping you organize your large collection with
tags.
 
G

Guest

As also an Architect, I will suggest an Alternate!!!!!!!

Having nearly died from the frustration of dealing with WMM and slides
(check my past posts), I have blown like 18 months with a 100 yr family
history slide show and WMM.

As I attempted to show version one from my computer via feed to my GTWY 42"
plasma TV, and getting stuck, my 40 yr old son came to the rescue and rattled
off the commands for the always present SLIDE SHOW option intergral with any
folder in WinXP or such.
So I did, and a happy show tho without the vintage music.

As U know, simple is often better, cleaper, cleaner, and faster. Hence my
sugggestion. I may well return to that option.

Forgedabout the carousel or such. You can feed from your lapeop, using RGB
cable if you dont have an offfice network. I use a Toshiba convertible and
works fine. You then can access ANY slides you have of other projects that
may crop up in a discussion group in the ocnf room, be it clients or yours.


Now THE SECRET. You go to the Belkin website and you buy a Belkin RF
keyboard and gesture mouse, thats RF, which means I can control the non
laptop in the loft (and thru walls), which has a AB switch to send the RGB
signal to either the Gateway Plasma on main floor, or to my upstairs monitor.
So couplea yrs ago I could browse the web sitting on my couch viewing the
web on a 42" widescreen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stupid IR controls anyway!!!!!!
Think the RF keyboard and gesture mouse pkg was about $65 or so, no more
than IR.....

SO

Now you can preload your laptop, bring along somoe cable options (15 pin
RGB0 and S video and whatever else). Set the laptop next to the clients TV
or AV console, with the RF tenna plugged into a USB in the laptop. The RF
keyboard and mouse you simply carry to your seat or place at conf table. And
away you go.

The other thing you get is MUCH BETTER picture quality, and NO HASSLES OF
conversion to DVD or AVI files or all this other garbage.

Color me Been There and why the heck didnt I stop 18 months ago when I
already had THE answer.... and am still knocking my head out trying to play
Mr. Moveee Producer. Isnt your time more valueable than that????

Lars

B Arch
from a little known school in Ohio
Michigan Registration '71
Kent State University '66

PS- my RGB feed consistss of a 12' high quality cable coupled to a 6' cable.
If using the laptop near my living room Plasma TV I use the 6' cable for
direct feed.
REMEMBER
all cable is not created equal. You must spend the $$ for a cable with the
small cylindrical devices on them. Mine probably are both Belkin.
Note I managed to talk to a VERY helpful person via E mail there and he set
me up with the various devices. However you now have the facts...
 
R

Rehan

Pleased to know you found your solution. Simpler the better.

Nevertheless I would like to mention that what you described was a
"presentation" that can be made using Microsoft Powerpoint. It allows you to
interleave text, image and video elements together. The speed and sequence
is controllable as well.

Best regards

--
Rehan
MS MVP -- Digital Media
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker
 
G

Guest

THANMKS MUCH LARS! YOURS WAS THE BEST ANSWER SO FAR.

I STILL CANNOT BELIEVE THAT THERE ISN'T A SIMPLE, SIMPLE, SIMPLE DIGITAL
SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT SIMPLY, SIMPLY SIMPLY SUBSTITUTES FOR THE OLD TWO STEP
35mm TASKS OF 1)"SORTING" LARGE GROUPS OF SLIDES AND 2) PROJECTING (VIA DLP
IN LIEU OF A CARASEL) VIA LAPTOP AND DLP. THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE. I DO
NOT NEED TRANSITIONS AND SUCH FOR A SIMPLE SLIDE PRESENTATION.

MAYBE DEVELOPING THIS SOFTWARE COULD RECUE EASTMAN KODAK????

THERE MUST BE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CAURASEL 35 MM SLIDE USERS OUT THERE
WHO WOULD BENEFIT GREATLY BY A SPECIFIC PROGRAM AND NOT A WORK-AROUND.

THANKS AGAIN!

DFSAL
 
R

Rehan

Just a quick note... Please unstuck your CAPS lock on the keyboard. It is
considered a very bad breach of net-etiquettes to post all caps messages.

Regards
 
G

Guest

IMHO the nicest feature is the FUN you can have. Its low cost, extremely
versatile, etc. The gesture mouse allows U to swipe the mouse in a C or S or
simply a downwards stroke, controlling a movement on your screen or opening a
file. Its 'programming' is literally do it and its programmed....
Other comment
IF you use a laptop, you use the two monitor option. Your laptop remains
the base and control screen with your files showing on it. Your monitor #2
is the foreign monitor, clients, or whatever there is to use. Set #2 as to
the right of #1. You bring up your files on the laptop, perhaps you have a
title page or firm name and maybe photo of the whole office group. Now you
click on your file Feedlebaum Project and its on your screen. Simply slide
it over to the right, it disappears and reapppears on the #2 screen. Sweet
is what it is.
Remember the simple is better, cheaper, smoother, and often can be literally
exquisite.

Rotsa Ruck,
Lars
 
G

Guest

Sorry, nothing intended apart from contenbt. As colors are not available to
distinguish remarplys, I chose caps. Us 50+ year olds who miss the days of
DOS based oftware that never crashed and enjoyed writing code for DOS on a
286 request some grace on this one.

Thanks

DFSAL
 
G

Guest

THERE MUST BE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CAURASEL 35 MM SLIDE USERS OUT THERE > WHO WOULD BENEFIT GREATLY BY A SPECIFIC PROGRAM AND NOT A WORK-AROUND.

This is a REPLY to the 'younger set' that continues to forget those persons
who have much disposable income and can affford the new digital toys and such.

The disi wizards have NO IDEA ahout failing eyesight, coordination, et al.
So we keep getting tinier and tiner machines with corresponding tiny text.
AAARRRRGHHHHH!!!!!

Of course my Toshiba can tralk and I can talk to it and get my speeech
transcribed into txt. (for those interested I suggest the latest Dragon
speaking naturally, a good mike and headset, and whatever laptop U R now
using.

I use a base color PDA, aint that FUN pickin and a grinnin all the while the
leeedle letters bounce and miss thanks to the gorky flexible screen.

I had not heard the birds sing in my yard for 4 years, until I spent
several grand for ITC hearing aids. However, wonderful to lose too.

TIME TO THINK OF YOUR ELDERS KOMPUTER WORLD. You too will be old or older
some day.

I use a 19" dell and it helps for my screen, oh yeah right now I am using
the RF keyboard and mouse. Belkin GYRATION GOP130, mouse GYRATION ULTRA GT.

CAPS SWEARING DUUUHHHHHHHH. To @#)*$)(*@*)(*)()$*)$( with this
plebian garbage, do you want our messages or not?

After 4 yrs in the NAVY and a Father that swore, you have NO idea....

L.
 
J

Jim

LarryINmich said:
This is a REPLY to the 'younger set' that continues to forget those persons
who have much disposable income and can affford the new digital toys and
such.

The disi wizards have NO IDEA ahout failing eyesight, coordination, et al.
So we keep getting tinier and tiner machines with corresponding tiny text.
AAARRRRGHHHHH!!!!!

Of course my Toshiba can tralk and I can talk to it and get my speeech
transcribed into txt. (for those interested I suggest the latest Dragon
speaking naturally, a good mike and headset, and whatever laptop U R now
using.

I use a base color PDA, aint that FUN pickin and a grinnin all the while the
leeedle letters bounce and miss thanks to the gorky flexible screen.

I had not heard the birds sing in my yard for 4 years, until I spent several
grand for ITC hearing aids. However, wonderful to lose too.

TIME TO THINK OF YOUR ELDERS KOMPUTER WORLD. You too will be old or older
some day.

I use a 19" dell and it helps for my screen, oh yeah right now I am using the
RF keyboard and mouse. Belkin GYRATION GOP130, mouse GYRATION ULTRA GT.

CAPS SWEARING DUUUHHHHHHHH. To @#)*$)(*@*)(*)()$*)$( with this plebian
garbage, do you want our messages or not?

After 4 yrs in the NAVY and a Father that swore, you have NO idea....

L.

I am not alone after all. Not quite ready for the hearing aids, but got new
knees, new teeth, new inserts in my veins, and assorted other stuff.<G>

J.
 
W

Wojo [MVP]

You miss 286 machines?
How about 8086 and 8088 machines?
Or my favorite was my first computer. A Radio Shack TRS80 with tape drive!
I don't miss any of them. :)
-Wojo
 
G

Guest

TO

Reviewed yer post again and my answer IS the answer. Your 4d(my term)
gesture mouse need NOT be loafing on the table but in the air.
ALSO
Having just returned from Barnes & Noble and browsing computer and also
photo/digital mags, you may wish to check out that arena. There is lots
there, my gut says too much, back to simple is better AND reliable.
ALSO ALSO
I did use a trial (I think) of a photo filing program about 3 4 months ago.
I quickly bailed because it was Gathering into One Huge Fold all of my
digital images. Haviing no prior knowlege of just what was going to happen I
shut down and didnt touch it since, and dont even know its name or mfg.......
SIMILARLY
you COULD start prowling the digital photo areas but again IMHO you are in
another world and another learning curve, meaning TIME and MONEY.....

think thats all...
L
 
G

Guest

As a LAST post.option, here is a little slide show device I bought think 2
yrs ago, just prior to 'discovering' the grinch named WMM. It shows on TV or
any monitor, has S video out etc, and does VERY WELL for what you want to do,
includes a remote at LOW price.

I HAVE THIS UNIT IMHO ITS A GEM NO INTERNAL SOUND OF COURSE
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006JKIC0/103-7230378-9960661?v=glance&n=172282
http://www.shopping.com/xPR-SanDisk..._TV_Memory_Card_Reader_SDV1_R~RD-209803185796

Bought 4 about 2 yrs ago at Best Buy for a deal, about $25 each for Xmas
gifts.I keep it attached to the Plasma TV for looking at images I have just
taken.


A few other THINGS listed, just found in browsing.

L

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdpcm/is_200506/ai_n14682210

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1832385,00.asp
 

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