Photogallery problems

J

John A

I am having a problem I cannot figure out related to a new photogallery I
added. I published to my host, however, when I look at the gallery through
IE it does not display. If I open the host web directly, and look at the
page through Frontpage, the gallery displays fine. I don't see any obvious
problems. I have tried rebuilding hyperlinks on local and host webs, forcing
the navigation structure to be replaced during publishing by doing some file
renaming, deleted temp files, and tried all the tricks I know. I dont know
what to try next. The web home is http://www.attinella.com/
The specific page with the problem is:
http://www.attinella.com/Canoes/bwca2003picts.htm
The parent page that contains the link to this page and to other working
photogallery pages:
http://www.attinella.com/Canoes/bwcapictures.htm
 
J

John A

When I open my web on the host I do see
http://www.attinella.com/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm
Also, if I bring up that previous link directly I see the photo album, so I
think the real.htm file is OK. Maybe I don't totally understand what you are
saying. I thought that the "photogallery/photogallery/" looks suspicious. I
dont see two levels of the photogallery directory in my structure and if the
webbot is really trying to go down that path, it will not find it.

Regardless, I went ahead and re-published the real.htm real_p.htm and
real_x.htm files in the photo2364 directory and I still dont see any change
in the behavior. Seems to be related to the webbot not being able to expand
the html source properly. I can see this by viewing the source
bwca2003picts.htm file from IE. I do have lots of more pictures in the photo
album than the others (64), however, I wouldnt think that should be a
problem. I did notice some capitalization differences with the generated HTM
source within bwca2003picts.htm compared to the working bwca2002picts.htm.
The S-Type, S-Orientation, and S-Rendering parms passed to the webbot are
not capitalized in the working htm file. Not sure if this is related and why
it would be different.


-------------------------------------------------------------------
HTML SOURCE generated by webbot from the none-functioning photoalbum:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
<!--webbot bot="Navigation" S-Type="banner" S-Orientation="horizontal"
S-Rendering="graphics" startspan --><img
src="_derived/bwca2003picts.htm_cmp_expeditn010_bnr.gif" width="600"
height="60" border="0" alt="BWCA 2003 Pictures"><!--webbot bot="Navigation"
i-checksum="12725" endspan --><!--mstheme--></font></h2>
<p align="center">Click on the picture for a larger view: </p>
<div align="center">
<!--webbot bot="PhotoAlbum" U-Include="../photogallery/photo2364/real.htm"
clientside TAG="BODY" startspan -->

<h2 align="center"><!--mstheme--><font color="#660033">
<img src="_derived/bwca2003picts.htm_cmp_expeditn010_bnr.gif" width="600"
height="60" border="0" alt="BWCA 2003 Pictures"><!--mstheme--></font></h2>
<p align="center">Click on the picture for a larger view: </p>
<div align="center">
<strong>[photogallery/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm]</strong></div>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>

<!--webbot bot="PhotoAlbum" i-checksum="21311" endspan --></div>

-------------------------------------------------------------------
HTML SOURCE generated by webbot from the functioning photoalbum:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
<!--webbot bot="Navigation" s-type="banner" s-orientation="horizontal"
s-rendering="graphics" startspan --><img
src="_derived/bwca2002picts.htm_cmp_expeditn010_bnr.gif" width="600"
height="60" border="0" alt="BWCA 2002 Pictures"><!--webbot bot="Navigation"
i-checksum="12657" endspan --><!--mstheme--></font></h2>
<p align="center">Click on the picture for a larger view:</p>
<div align="center">
<!--webbot bot="PhotoAlbum"
U-Include="../photogallery/photo11864/real.htm" clientside TAG="BODY"
startspan -->
<picture file-href="../photogallery/photo11864/real_p.htm" />
<picture file-href="../photogallery/photo11864/real_x.htm" />
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" id="fpGalleryTable_7201">
<tr>
<tr><td height="10"></td>
</tr>
<tr />
<script language="JavaScript1.1">
if (navigator.appName == "Netscape")
document.write("<td bgcolor='#AAAAAA' width='1'>&nbsp;</td>");
</script>
<td valign="top" style="border-left-style: solid; border-left-width: 1;
border-left-color:black">
<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" align="center"
width="120">
<tr>
<td valign="top" align="center" height="106">
<a href="images/bwca0217i.jpg">
----------continues to include all of the pictures in the
album--------------


--
John Attinella
Tiffany K. Edmonds said:
In looking at the code, It appears that your
photogallery/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm
file is not on the server. It should be located in/at
http://www.attinella.com/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm

You should ensure that the files from the
photogallery/photogallery/photo2364/ directory and all its' contents on your
local copy are published to the live web. If for some reason FP isn't
publishing these files with a normail FILE > PUBLISH WEB - you might want to
open this folder in your folder list, select all of the files in this
directory, right click and select Publish Selected Files and see if that
will force FP to publish them and get this page working for you.

HTH
 
J

John A

Disegard the capitalization comments. Tried modify this and it did not make
a difference. Still stumped.

--
John Attinella
John A said:
When I open my web on the host I do see
http://www.attinella.com/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm
Also, if I bring up that previous link directly I see the photo album, so I
think the real.htm file is OK. Maybe I don't totally understand what you are
saying. I thought that the "photogallery/photogallery/" looks suspicious. I
dont see two levels of the photogallery directory in my structure and if the
webbot is really trying to go down that path, it will not find it.

Regardless, I went ahead and re-published the real.htm real_p.htm and
real_x.htm files in the photo2364 directory and I still dont see any change
in the behavior. Seems to be related to the webbot not being able to expand
the html source properly. I can see this by viewing the source
bwca2003picts.htm file from IE. I do have lots of more pictures in the photo
album than the others (64), however, I wouldnt think that should be a
problem. I did notice some capitalization differences with the generated HTM
source within bwca2003picts.htm compared to the working bwca2002picts.htm.
The S-Type, S-Orientation, and S-Rendering parms passed to the webbot are
not capitalized in the working htm file. Not sure if this is related and why
it would be different.


-------------------------------------------------------------------
HTML SOURCE generated by webbot from the none-functioning photoalbum:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
<!--webbot bot="Navigation" S-Type="banner" S-Orientation="horizontal"
S-Rendering="graphics" startspan --><img
src="_derived/bwca2003picts.htm_cmp_expeditn010_bnr.gif" width="600"
height="60" border="0" alt="BWCA 2003 Pictures"><!--webbot bot="Navigation"
i-checksum="12725" endspan --><!--mstheme--></font></h2>
<p align="center">Click on the picture for a larger view: </p>
<div align="center">
<!--webbot bot="PhotoAlbum" U-Include="../photogallery/photo2364/real.htm"
clientside TAG="BODY" startspan -->

<h2 align="center"><!--mstheme--><font color="#660033">
<img src="_derived/bwca2003picts.htm_cmp_expeditn010_bnr.gif" width="600"
height="60" border="0" alt="BWCA 2003 Pictures"><!--mstheme--></font></h2>
<p align="center">Click on the picture for a larger view: </p>
<div align="center">
<strong>[photogallery/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm]</strong></div>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>

<!--webbot bot="PhotoAlbum" i-checksum="21311" endspan --></div>

-------------------------------------------------------------------
HTML SOURCE generated by webbot from the functioning photoalbum:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
<!--webbot bot="Navigation" s-type="banner" s-orientation="horizontal"
s-rendering="graphics" startspan --><img
src="_derived/bwca2002picts.htm_cmp_expeditn010_bnr.gif" width="600"
height="60" border="0" alt="BWCA 2002 Pictures"><!--webbot bot="Navigation"
i-checksum="12657" endspan --><!--mstheme--></font></h2>
<p align="center">Click on the picture for a larger view:</p>
<div align="center">
<!--webbot bot="PhotoAlbum"
U-Include="../photogallery/photo11864/real.htm" clientside TAG="BODY"
startspan -->
<picture file-href="../photogallery/photo11864/real_p.htm" />
<picture file-href="../photogallery/photo11864/real_x.htm" />
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" id="fpGalleryTable_7201">
<tr>
<tr><td height="10"></td>
</tr>
<tr />
<script language="JavaScript1.1">
if (navigator.appName == "Netscape")
document.write("<td bgcolor='#AAAAAA' width='1'>&nbsp;</td>");
</script>
<td valign="top" style="border-left-style: solid; border-left-width: 1;
border-left-color:black">
<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" align="center"
width="120">
<tr>
<td valign="top" align="center" height="106">
<a href="images/bwca0217i.jpg">
----------continues to include all of the pictures in the
album--------------


--
John Attinella
Tiffany K. Edmonds said:
In looking at the code, It appears that your
photogallery/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm
file is not on the server. It should be located in/at
http://www.attinella.com/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm

You should ensure that the files from the
photogallery/photogallery/photo2364/ directory and all its' contents on your
local copy are published to the live web. If for some reason FP isn't
publishing these files with a normail FILE > PUBLISH WEB - you might
want
to
open this folder in your folder list, select all of the files in this
directory, right click and select Publish Selected Files and see if that
will force FP to publish them and get this page working for you.

HTH
--
Tiffany K. Edmonds
-----------------------------
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
www.dynamite-it.com
www.at-frontpage.com
www.anyfrontpage.com
photogallery
 
T

Tiffany K. Edmonds

Unfortunatly I don't work with the photo gallery feature much at all. I do
see on the page that something has changed since last I looked at it.
http://www.attinella.com/Canoes/bwca2003picts.htm

previously, the page had [photogallery/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm] on
it, and now it has
[Canoes/photogallery/photo29772/photogallery/photo29772/real.htm] on it.

I notice in view source in IE that the include code:
<!--webbot bot="PhotoAlbum" U-Include="photogallery/photo29772/real.htm"
clientside TAG="BODY" startspan --> which actually should pull the page
correctly.

I vaguely recall hearing that the photo gallery feature may have a limit to
the number of photo's it can handle??? Hopefully someone who knows will
chime in on this one, because I don't know any of the details or if this was
found to be true or not.


--
Tiffany K. Edmonds
-----------------------------
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
www.dynamite-it.com
www.at-frontpage.com
www.anyfrontpage.com





John A said:
Disegard the capitalization comments. Tried modify this and it did not make
a difference. Still stumped.

--
John Attinella
John A said:
When I open my web on the host I do see
http://www.attinella.com/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm
Also, if I bring up that previous link directly I see the photo album,
so
I
think the real.htm file is OK. Maybe I don't totally understand what you are
saying. I thought that the "photogallery/photogallery/" looks
suspicious.
I
dont see two levels of the photogallery directory in my structure and if the
webbot is really trying to go down that path, it will not find it.

Regardless, I went ahead and re-published the real.htm real_p.htm and
real_x.htm files in the photo2364 directory and I still dont see any change
in the behavior. Seems to be related to the webbot not being able to expand
the html source properly. I can see this by viewing the source
bwca2003picts.htm file from IE. I do have lots of more pictures in the photo
album than the others (64), however, I wouldnt think that should be a
problem. I did notice some capitalization differences with the generated HTM
source within bwca2003picts.htm compared to the working bwca2002picts.htm.
The S-Type, S-Orientation, and S-Rendering parms passed to the webbot are
not capitalized in the working htm file. Not sure if this is related and why
it would be different.


-------------------------------------------------------------------
HTML SOURCE generated by webbot from the none-functioning photoalbum:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
<!--webbot bot="Navigation" S-Type="banner" S-Orientation="horizontal"
S-Rendering="graphics" startspan --><img
src="_derived/bwca2003picts.htm_cmp_expeditn010_bnr.gif" width="600"
height="60" border="0" alt="BWCA 2003 Pictures"><!--webbot bot="Navigation"
i-checksum="12725" endspan --><!--mstheme--></font></h2>
<p align="center">Click on the picture for a larger view: </p>
<div align="center">
<!--webbot bot="PhotoAlbum" U-Include="../photogallery/photo2364/real.htm"
clientside TAG="BODY" startspan -->

<h2 align="center"><!--mstheme--><font color="#660033">
<img src="_derived/bwca2003picts.htm_cmp_expeditn010_bnr.gif" width="600"
height="60" border="0" alt="BWCA 2003
Pictures"> said:
<p align="center">Click on the picture for a larger view: </p>
<div align="center">
<strong>[photogallery/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm]</strong></div>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>

<!--webbot bot="PhotoAlbum" i-checksum="21311" endspan --></div>

-------------------------------------------------------------------
HTML SOURCE generated by webbot from the functioning photoalbum:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
<!--webbot bot="Navigation" s-type="banner" s-orientation="horizontal"
s-rendering="graphics" startspan --><img
src="_derived/bwca2002picts.htm_cmp_expeditn010_bnr.gif" width="600"
height="60" border="0" alt="BWCA 2002 Pictures"><!--webbot bot="Navigation"
i-checksum="12657" endspan --><!--mstheme--></font></h2>
<p align="center">Click on the picture for a larger view:</p>
<div align="center">
<!--webbot bot="PhotoAlbum"
U-Include="../photogallery/photo11864/real.htm" clientside TAG="BODY"
startspan -->
<picture file-href="../photogallery/photo11864/real_p.htm" />
<picture file-href="../photogallery/photo11864/real_x.htm" />
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" id="fpGalleryTable_7201">
<tr>
<tr><td height="10"></td>
</tr>
<tr />
<script language="JavaScript1.1">
if (navigator.appName == "Netscape")
document.write("<td bgcolor='#AAAAAA' width='1'>&nbsp;</td>");
</script>
<td valign="top" style="border-left-style: solid; border-left-width: 1;
border-left-color:black">
<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" align="center"
width="120">
<tr>
<td valign="top" align="center" height="106">
<a href="images/bwca0217i.jpg">
----------continues to include all of the pictures in the
album--------------


--
John Attinella
Tiffany K. Edmonds said:
In looking at the code, It appears that your
photogallery/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm
file is not on the server. It should be located in/at
http://www.attinella.com/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm

You should ensure that the files from the
photogallery/photogallery/photo2364/ directory and all its' contents
on
your
local copy are published to the live web. If for some reason FP isn't
publishing these files with a normail FILE > PUBLISH WEB - you might
want
to
open this folder in your folder list, select all of the files in this
directory, right click and select Publish Selected Files and see if that
will force FP to publish them and get this page working for you.

HTH
--
Tiffany K. Edmonds
-----------------------------
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
www.dynamite-it.com
www.at-frontpage.com
www.anyfrontpage.com


I am having a problem I cannot figure out related to a new
photogallery
I
added. I published to my host, however, when I look at the gallery through
IE it does not display. If I open the host web directly, and look at the
page through Frontpage, the gallery displays fine. I don't see any obvious
problems. I have tried rebuilding hyperlinks on local and host webs,
forcing
the navigation structure to be replaced during publishing by doing some
file
renaming, deleted temp files, and tried all the tricks I know. I
dont
know
what to try next. The web home is http://www.attinella.com/
The specific page with the problem is:
http://www.attinella.com/Canoes/bwca2003picts.htm
The parent page that contains the link to this page and to other working
photogallery pages:
http://www.attinella.com/Canoes/bwcapictures.htm
 
J

John A

Yes, I decided to start totally from scratch and create a new photo album
(the photogallery support has always seemed a little unstable). That is why
you are seeing a different photo directory and a different path.
Unfortuately it is failing the same way. I did play with some directories
and I think you were originally on the right path. I am now suspecting that
the "current directory" that the page/webbot is running in is incorrect.
The root error is that it cannot find:

Canoes/photogallery/photo29772/photogallery/photo29772/real.htm.

Thats because it should be looking in:

Canoes/photogallery/photo29772/real.htm

It appears that the U-Include="photogallery/photo29772/real.htm" statement
in bwca2003picts.htm expects the "current directory" to be Canoes/. If we
happen to be running in Canoes/photogallery/photo29772/ , then trying to
look in photogallery/photo29772/real.htm would produce this result. WEIRD.
My host provider is in the process of converting our web space to separate
Virtual Dedicated Servers (week long period, supposedly transparent). I am
beginning to wonder if there is some funny business going on possibly with
symbolic links or something else related to the conversion that is underway.
When I publish my file based web to my localhost, I can access the
photogallery fine from IE. I have submitted an email to my host provider.
(www.westhost.com)

Thanks for the assistance, and if you or anyone else has any other ideas, I
would like to hear them. When I get it solved, I will post my findings.

--
John Attinella

Tiffany K. Edmonds said:
Unfortunatly I don't work with the photo gallery feature much at all. I do
see on the page that something has changed since last I looked at it.
http://www.attinella.com/Canoes/bwca2003picts.htm

previously, the page had [photogallery/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm] on
it, and now it has
[Canoes/photogallery/photo29772/photogallery/photo29772/real.htm] on it.

I notice in view source in IE that the include code:
<!--webbot bot="PhotoAlbum" U-Include="photogallery/photo29772/real.htm"
clientside TAG="BODY" startspan --> which actually should pull the page
correctly.

I vaguely recall hearing that the photo gallery feature may have a limit to
the number of photo's it can handle??? Hopefully someone who knows will
chime in on this one, because I don't know any of the details or if this was
found to be true or not.


--
Tiffany K. Edmonds
-----------------------------
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
www.dynamite-it.com
www.at-frontpage.com
www.anyfrontpage.com





John A said:
Disegard the capitalization comments. Tried modify this and it did not make
a difference. Still stumped.

--
John Attinella
so you
are suspicious. if
the generated
HTM and
why at
the
 
J

John A

Microsoft Knowlege Base Article 813736

Wow, the description of this article is misleading, however, my problem
appears to be a manifestation of this. I modified the WEBBOT parms as
described in the article to get around the problem and it started to work.
Well, lesson learned, I must broaden my searches for existing problems.

Thanks Tiffany for your help.


Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 813736
FP2002: Photo Gallery May Not Show All Images

--
John Attinella
John A said:
Yes, I decided to start totally from scratch and create a new photo album
(the photogallery support has always seemed a little unstable). That is why
you are seeing a different photo directory and a different path.
Unfortuately it is failing the same way. I did play with some directories
and I think you were originally on the right path. I am now suspecting that
the "current directory" that the page/webbot is running in is incorrect.
The root error is that it cannot find:

Canoes/photogallery/photo29772/photogallery/photo29772/real.htm.

Thats because it should be looking in:

Canoes/photogallery/photo29772/real.htm

It appears that the U-Include="photogallery/photo29772/real.htm" statement
in bwca2003picts.htm expects the "current directory" to be Canoes/. If we
happen to be running in Canoes/photogallery/photo29772/ , then trying to
look in photogallery/photo29772/real.htm would produce this result. WEIRD.
My host provider is in the process of converting our web space to separate
Virtual Dedicated Servers (week long period, supposedly transparent). I am
beginning to wonder if there is some funny business going on possibly with
symbolic links or something else related to the conversion that is underway.
When I publish my file based web to my localhost, I can access the
photogallery fine from IE. I have submitted an email to my host provider.
(www.westhost.com)

Thanks for the assistance, and if you or anyone else has any other ideas, I
would like to hear them. When I get it solved, I will post my findings.

--
John Attinella

Tiffany K. Edmonds said:
Unfortunatly I don't work with the photo gallery feature much at all. I do
see on the page that something has changed since last I looked at it.
http://www.attinella.com/Canoes/bwca2003picts.htm

previously, the page had [photogallery/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm] on
it, and now it has
[Canoes/photogallery/photo29772/photogallery/photo29772/real.htm] on it.

I notice in view source in IE that the include code:
<!--webbot bot="PhotoAlbum" U-Include="photogallery/photo29772/real.htm"
clientside TAG="BODY" startspan --> which actually should pull the page
correctly.

I vaguely recall hearing that the photo gallery feature may have a limit to
the number of photo's it can handle??? Hopefully someone who knows will
chime in on this one, because I don't know any of the details or if this was
found to be true or not.


--
Tiffany K. Edmonds
-----------------------------
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
www.dynamite-it.com
www.at-frontpage.com
www.anyfrontpage.com





John A said:
Disegard the capitalization comments. Tried modify this and it did not make
a difference. Still stumped.

--
John Attinella
When I open my web on the host I do see
http://www.attinella.com/photogallery/photo2364/real.htm
Also, if I bring up that previous link directly I see the photo
album,
so
I
think the real.htm file is OK. Maybe I don't totally understand what you
are
saying. I thought that the "photogallery/photogallery/" looks suspicious.
I
dont see two levels of the photogallery directory in my structure
and
if webbot
are
contents
on if
that
look
 

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