PC TuneUp and CCleaner

[Doum]

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[Here we go again...]

Yes, here we go again: The closed minded idiots and closed minded
dummies who insist they are right in the face of millions of satisfied
users and mountains of evidence of the success of such things. That
site he references? Wrtten by one of "his" gang of cohorts amongst
their silly little group here who want to libel the companies that
make such products. He and his cohorts will lie and misinform to the
very end even though most any service shop makes good use of such
tools and understands the realities of "today".
The most interesting thing about these boobs is when you challenge
them
to show some proof of their allegations, they point to the below
useless site or one other that exists which is the same thing, and
call that proof. They cannot even come close to describing the
mechanism of their claims as any professional or logical thinking
person would be able to do.

HTH,

Twayne`
...

Boilerplate junk removed.

Out of curiosity, I downloaded and installed Ccleaner. After making an
image of my system drive, I ran CC registry cleaner, it found a lot of
stuff, associated extensions, useless DLLs, etc. I let it do what it
suggested.

AFAICT, there's nothing broken but I don't see any performance
improvement so I think I'm gonna leave the registry alone in the future
but I will check out CC other features.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Doum wrote:

Out of curiosity, I downloaded and installed Ccleaner. After making an
image of my system drive, I ran CC registry cleaner, it found a lot of
stuff, associated extensions, useless DLLs, etc. I let it do what it
suggested.

AFAICT, there's nothing broken but I don't see any performance
improvement so I think I'm gonna leave the registry alone in the future
but I will check out CC other features.

Hopefully you paid attention to CCleaner's prompt to back-up the changes you
were about to make and did so.

 

[Billns]

I wouldn't bother with either one. I use WSE (Windows Security Essentials)

Microsoft Security Essentials and these two programs have different
purposes. I haven't used PC Tuneup and use CCleaner very sparingly so I
can't really comment on the merits of either. I use MSE rather than
Norton or McAfee and am well satisfied with MSE.

Bill

 

[Doum]

Doum wrote:


Hopefully you paid attention to CCleaner's prompt to back-up the
changes you were about to make and did so.

yes

 

[Unknown]

Excuse my goof. I meant Microsoft Security Essentials ---not Windows
Security Essentials.
He-- getting old but, the alternative is most unpleasant..

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

image of my system drive, I ran CC registry cleaner, it found a lot of
stuff, associated extensions, useless DLLs, etc. I let it do what it
suggested.

AFAICT, there's nothing broken

Good. Then you were lucky. None of us has ever claimed that using a
registry cleaner causes a problem every time. Rather, there's a *risk*
in using it, and there's no reason to take the risk since ...

but I don't see any performance improvement

.... there's no corresponding benefit, and the gamble is therefore a
poor one.

so I think I'm gonna leave the registry alone in the future

Good. That's the wise thing to do.

but I will check out CC other features.

Also good. Almost everything else it does, it does well.

 

[Twayne]

In

Good. Then you were lucky. None of us has ever claimed that
using a registry cleaner causes a problem every time.
Rather, there's a *risk* in using it, and there's no reason
to take the risk since ...

Balderdash; exactly what would be expected.

... there's no corresponding benefit, and the gamble is
therefore a poor one.

BS - and you know it.

Good. That's the wise thing to do.




Also good. Almost everything else it does, it does well.

Everything it does it does well, dunderhead.

HTH,

Twayne`

 

[Twayne]

In

In

[Here we go again...]

Yes, here we go again: The closed minded idiots and closed
minded dummies who insist they are right in the face of
millions of satisfied users and mountains of evidence of
the success of such things. That site he references?
Wrtten by one of "his" gang of cohorts amongst their silly
little group here who want to libel the companies that
make such products. He and his cohorts will lie and
misinform to the very end even though most any service
shop makes good use of such tools and understands the
realities of "today". The most interesting thing about
these boobs is when you challenge them
to show some proof of their allegations, they point to the
below useless site or one other that exists which is the
same thing, and call that proof. They cannot even come
close to describing the mechanism of their claims as any
professional or logical thinking person would be able to
do.

HTH,

Twayne`
...

Boilerplate junk removed.

Sanford Aranoff wrote:
What do you think of PC TuneUP for $50 or CCleaner for
free?

Out of curiosity, I downloaded and installed Ccleaner.
After making an image of my system drive, I ran CC registry
cleaner, it found a lot of stuff, associated extensions,
useless DLLs, etc. I let it do what it suggested.

AFAICT, there's nothing broken but I don't see any
performance improvement so I think I'm gonna leave the
registry alone in the future but I will check out CC other
features.

Sounds about right; that's what most people get. As a general rule, registry
cleaners do not increase the speed of anything in any noticeable way at
least.
It can come in pretty handy when you get a problem that keep eluding you
as either a "find" for the problem or at least an exclusion of the registry
as being the cause of it. Most sources of computer slowdowns are from
sources other than the registry.

 

[milt]

Here's one of your major puppetmasters of this small group of closed minds
who wish to malign and libel the companies that have sold millions of
product to many, including those who repair computers and make good use of
same.

Anyone who repairs computers and sells people on this garbage are only
doing so in the hopes it trashes the system so they can go in and fix
the damage caused by these programs. Yes, sometimes they work, and yes,
they don't cause harm. However, they do NOTHING to speed up a system and
when they do screw up. They screw up your system BAD. Then of course
people like you go on and on about how wonderful these programs are and
how they NEVER do anything bad so what happens?

People blame Microsoft for their problems! When they should be blaming
the snake oil product that screwed up their registry to begin with!

 

[Bill in Co.]

How did you find out what city I'm in? (just curious

 

[Unknown]

I highlight your post then click 'file' (in Outlook Express). Click
properties then details.
The details of your post indicates the posting host was 67.190.90.13.
Then I use http://en.utrace.de/ to tell me where the posting host is.
Try it but don't tell anyone about it. LOL.

 

[Twayne]

In

Anyone who repairs computers and sells people on this
garbage are only doing so in the hopes it trashes the
system so they can go in and fix the damage caused by these
programs.

Giving away your secrets, eh? No ethical scrupulouw person would EVER charge
a customer for any problems he caused, no matter what it was.

Yes, sometimes they work, and yes, they don't

cause harm. However, they do NOTHING to speed up a system

Speeding up a system is one of many, many things a cleaner might do. I
haven't seen anyone claim that in this thread either.

and when they do screw up. They screw up your system BAD.

Nope, just not true unless it's a no-name from junk.com, same as with any
other software.

Then of course people like you go on and on about how
wonderful these programs are and how they NEVER do anything
bad so what happens?

Those are lies. I never said they were "wonderful" and they inherently do
NOT do anything "bad". Your reading comprehension forces you to create lies
and misinterpret what was said; you need help.

People blame Microsoft for their problems! When they should
be blaming the snake oil product that screwed up their
registry to begin with!

lol, you're maroon for sure. When you unnstall a program, it does EXACTLY
what a cleaner would do. Should we stop uninstalling programs?

 

[John John - MVP]

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Giving away your secrets, eh? No ethical scrupulouw person would EVER charge
a customer for any problems he caused, no matter what it was.

Yes, sometimes they work, and yes, they don't

Speeding up a system is one of many, many things a cleaner might do. I
haven't seen anyone claim that in this thread either.


Nope, just not true unless it's a no-name from junk.com, same as with any
other software.


Those are lies. I never said they were "wonderful" and they inherently do
NOT do anything "bad". Your reading comprehension forces you to create lies
and misinterpret what was said; you need help.

lol, you're maroon for sure. When you unnstall a program, it does EXACTLY
what a cleaner would do. Should we stop uninstalling programs?

No, it doesn't! When you uninstall a program an uninstall string is
launched by the uninstaller and a specific uninstall routine is
launched, often times the application has an install/uninstall log and
the installer will execute uninstall routines based on these logs or
based on other such files provided by the application vendor. In
addition to removing relevant registry entries the uninstaller also
removes files which were installed when the application was installed,
this is not restricted to the program's directory, the uninstaller
will/should also remove any dll or other files which might have been
created when the program was installed. Registry cleaners do nothing of
the such, but then none of us here would expect you to know any better,
you wear blinders and your ignorance in these matters is clearly evident.

John

 

[Unknown]

In

Giving away your secrets, eh? No ethical scrupulouw person would EVER
charge a customer for any problems he caused, no matter what it was.

Yes, sometimes they work, and yes, they don't

Speeding up a system is one of many, many things a cleaner might do. I
haven't seen anyone claim that in this thread either.


Nope, just not true unless it's a no-name from junk.com, same as with any
other software.


Those are lies. I never said they were "wonderful" and they inherently do
NOT do anything "bad". Your reading comprehension forces you to create
lies and misinterpret what was said; you need help.

lol, you're maroon for sure. When you unnstall a program, it does EXACTLY
what a cleaner would do. Should we stop uninstalling programs?

A cleaner does the same as uninstalling a program is the most incorrect, bad
information you
have ever posted on these newsgroups other than the usefulness of registry
cleaners.
.. When are you going to quit making an idiot of yourself?

 

[Doum]

John John - MVP <[email protected]> écrivait

In
addition to removing relevant registry entries the uninstaller also
removes files which were installed when the application was installed,
this is not restricted to the program's directory, the uninstaller
will/should also remove any dll or other files which might have been
created when the program was installed.

John

Question here, what if a dll is shared by other applications and an
uninstall procedure removes it, won't it screw up the other applications
that were using it?

 

[John John - MVP]

John John - MVP <[email protected]> écrivait




Question here, what if a dll is shared by other applications and an
uninstall procedure removes it, won't it screw up the other applications
that were using it?

It will almost always ask for delete confirmation if it thinks that the
file is shared, if you are unsure you can keep the file.

John

 

[Bill in Co.]

A cleaner does the same as uninstalling a program is the most incorrect,
bad
information you
have ever posted on these newsgroups other than the usefulness of registry
cleaners.
. When are you going to quit making an idiot of yourself?

2050?

 

[Twayne]

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I highlight your post then click 'file' (in Outlook
Express). Click properties then details.
The details of your post indicates the posting host was
67.190.90.13. Then I use http://en.utrace.de/ to tell me
where the posting host is. Try it but don't tell anyone
about it. LOL. "Bill in Co."

Not very accurate; careful of depending on it too much. It shows me in
Syracuse, too but in reality I am 120 miles north and a bit east of
Syracuse. You forget, that's the scope for the IP, not where the person
using the IP is. Tracert wll get you the same thing as will many other
programs. Tracking stops where the IP is living, not where the computer the
IP was assigned to is located.
And, IPs change periodically scheduled or otherwise with every time the
modem is reset/restarted/rebooted. There is no way of telling whether the
user you "located" was even assigned that IP at the time you looked; it
could have been someone else entirely. In 24 hours the IP will almost
certainly have changed and earlier if the user restarted/rebooted or used
ipconfig or depending on where it was in its 24 hr cycle.
Knowing the city does no good at all unless the person admits/volunteers
their own location in that city.
Anyone with Verizon in the whole northeast US could show as being located
in Syracuse - or Ottawa - or Rochester/Buffalo - or Toronto - or cities in
PA, CT, etc. etc. etc..

HTH,

Twayne`

 

[Unknown]

Will registry cleaners be extinct then?

2050?

 

[Bob I]

As long as the marks keep appearing!

Will registry cleaners be extinct then?