Page fault in nopaged area....

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One Eyed Jack

What the heck does page fault in nonpaged area mean?
I've had this problem for quite a while, used a RAM tester, windows
tester, ROM utilities, etc. Nothing says there is a problem, but
windows crashes sometimes with a blue screen and says page fault in
nonpaged area.

Can anyone help?
Thank you
 
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Nick Le Lievre

One Eyed Jack said:
What the heck does page fault in nonpaged area mean?
I've had this problem for quite a while, used a RAM tester, windows
tester, ROM utilities, etc. Nothing says there is a problem, but
windows crashes sometimes with a blue screen and says page fault in
nonpaged area.

Can anyone help?
Thank you

You need to run your memory tester for a long time 12 hours + you don`t say
how long you ran it for but even 3 - 4 hours is not long enough believe me.
If it isn`t a actual hardware memory problem its a memory problem being
generated by a problem driver. I hope the information I provide helps you
maybe you can identify some or all of the problem symptoms in your system.

MEMORY RELATED BLUESCREENS

Sometimes its quite obvious system suddenly displays a PAGE FAULT IN NON
PAGE AREA blue screen after reset you get no display and POST error beeps
indicating memory error (so long as you have your speaker wire connected to
the right pins and find/trust the BIOS manufucterers error codes your home
dry).

I`ve personally expierienced this one on my own systems however when I
expierienced it I didn`t get any POST beeps and the speaker wire was
connected correctly - which sent me off on a path to destruction and self
loathing. I eventually found the true problem when the memory stick did
cause error code beeps in another motherboard although 1/2 the time it
booted up and "seemingly" operated correctly.

Another time its that you got a memory stick that maybe started out life in
your system ok - but for whatever reason and in my case I suspect
overclocked to too high an fsb your memory stick becomes corrupted - however
your motherboards POST error codes don`t tell you this and your PC continues
to boot up and runs "seemingly" normally - however you get the infinite loop
problem here your display goes off and after reboot a message appears on the
screen saying the device driver (yourgraphicsadapter.dll) got stuck in an
infinite loop - it puts you onto the path of true destruction as you think
its the graphics card and more depression and self loathing loom large
untill you try that stick in another board and its POST code error beeps
sound the alarm!

Finally I expierienced this type on a system I upgraded as a favour for
someone else on the cheap (ie the memory was from questionable source eg
your mate, ebay etc) well this one again needed constant attention becuase
like example number 2 its intermittement nature means you need to be around
when it happens. Basically the system was suffering from application errors
right after desktop loading eg startup apps followed by a blue screen error
but sometimes just a straight blue screen error of the following;

PAGE FAULT IN NON PAGE AREA *STOP*
PFN_LIST_CORRUPT *STOP*
MEMORY MANAGEMENT *STOP*
IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL * STOP *

Now like all memory errors there intermittent which means your system can
appear to be stable for long periods then suddenly you get two of these
errors then no more for a while - with the above scenario trying to
reinstall Windows XP results in files appearing missing during the file copy
process and then more of the blue screens as the graphic portion of the
install process tries to start.

I think the best way to "kill" or find out a failing memory module is to run
Prime 95 torture test & also if possible try the stick in other boards. In
example number 3 Prime 95 for an extended 15 hour period actually made the
errors happen more consistently to the point of instead of failure 1 or 2
times a session every session immediatly crashed to a blue screen.
 
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One Eyed Jack

I ran the memory test for 25+ hours. Where do I get Prime 95 from?

I looked at some error logs, this is the only thing I found:

AMLI: ACPI BIOS is attempting to read from an illegal IO port address
(0x71), which lies in the 0x70 - 0x71 protected address range. This
could lead to system instability. Please contact your system vendor
for technical assistance.

I'm pretty sure something is up with my Cdrom drive now, but there is
no hardware updates for it, and it is fairly new, I don't see why
anything should be amiss.

Does this information help narrow down my problem? Do I just need
a new Cdrom drive?
 
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Nick Le Lievre

One Eyed Jack said:
I ran the memory test for 25+ hours. Where do I get Prime 95 from?

While I use Prime 95 any of the memory tests memtest86 or microsofts should
tell you if there`s hardware memory problems after this length of time - I
like running Prime 95 because the operating system is running while its
running so any problems are visually noticable I`ve not used the other 2 at
length so I can`t vouch for them but im sure they do a good job too.
I looked at some error logs, this is the only thing I found:

AMLI: ACPI BIOS is attempting to read from an illegal IO port address
(0x71), which lies in the 0x70 - 0x71 protected address range. This
could lead to system instability. Please contact your system vendor
for technical assistance.

I'm pretty sure something is up with my Cdrom drive now, but there is
no hardware updates for it, and it is fairly new, I don't see why
anything should be amiss.

Does this information help narrow down my problem? Do I just need
a new Cdrom drive?

So it doesn`t look like an actual hardware memory problem (usually you get
other blue screen errors as well as the page fault in non-paged area if
there is a hardware memory fault) it sounds like one of your device drivers
is performing an illegal operation causing this problem in memory.
 
T

TOM

Nick said:
You need to run your memory tester for a long time 12 hours + you don`t say
how long you ran it for but even 3 - 4 hours is not long enough believe me.
If it isn`t a actual hardware memory problem its a memory problem being
generated by a problem driver. I hope the information I provide helps you
maybe you can identify some or all of the problem symptoms in your system.

MEMORY RELATED BLUESCREENS

Sometimes its quite obvious system suddenly displays a PAGE FAULT IN NON
PAGE AREA blue screen after reset you get no display and POST error beeps
indicating memory error (so long as you have your speaker wire connected to
the right pins and find/trust the BIOS manufucterers error codes your home
dry).

I`ve personally expierienced this one on my own systems however when I
expierienced it I didn`t get any POST beeps and the speaker wire was
connected correctly - which sent me off on a path to destruction and self
loathing. I eventually found the true problem when the memory stick did
cause error code beeps in another motherboard although 1/2 the time it
booted up and "seemingly" operated correctly.

Another time its that you got a memory stick that maybe started out life in
your system ok - but for whatever reason and in my case I suspect
overclocked to too high an fsb your memory stick becomes corrupted - however
your motherboards POST error codes don`t tell you this and your PC continues
to boot up and runs "seemingly" normally - however you get the infinite loop
problem here your display goes off and after reboot a message appears on the
screen saying the device driver (yourgraphicsadapter.dll) got stuck in an
infinite loop - it puts you onto the path of true destruction as you think
its the graphics card and more depression and self loathing loom large
untill you try that stick in another board and its POST code error beeps
sound the alarm!

Finally I expierienced this type on a system I upgraded as a favour for
someone else on the cheap (ie the memory was from questionable source eg
your mate, ebay etc) well this one again needed constant attention becuase
like example number 2 its intermittement nature means you need to be around
when it happens. Basically the system was suffering from application errors
right after desktop loading eg startup apps followed by a blue screen error
but sometimes just a straight blue screen error of the following;

PAGE FAULT IN NON PAGE AREA *STOP*
PFN_LIST_CORRUPT *STOP*
MEMORY MANAGEMENT *STOP*
IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL * STOP *

Now like all memory errors there intermittent which means your system can
appear to be stable for long periods then suddenly you get two of these
errors then no more for a while - with the above scenario trying to
reinstall Windows XP results in files appearing missing during the file copy
process and then more of the blue screens as the graphic portion of the
install process tries to start.

I think the best way to "kill" or find out a failing memory module is to run
Prime 95 torture test & also if possible try the stick in other boards. In
example number 3 Prime 95 for an extended 15 hour period actually made the
errors happen more consistently to the point of instead of failure 1 or 2
times a session every session immediatly crashed to a blue screen.

I've been mostly lurking here for several month, but decided to take
this opportunity to thank you for an invaluable tip:

I was having the same problem for the past month:

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
PFN_LIST_CORRUPT

but thought it was a driver or video card problem. I ran Memtest86 (SP?)
for four hours but nothing showed up. I had never heard of Prime95 until
you mentioned it so downloaded it and ran the stress test. It ran for
about 20 seconds before stopping with an error message. I tried it
again, same results, so I removed the 256Mb DIMM that was installed
about 6 months ago. Prime95 ran for over an hour and completed all tests
without skipping a beat.

I never thought of a memory problem, mainly because it had been in the
circuit for so long with no apparent problems. Live and learn...

Again, a big thank you for the tip!!!

Tom - Vista, CA
 
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Nick Le Lievre

TOM said:
Nick Le Lievre wrote:

I've been mostly lurking here for several month, but decided to take
this opportunity to thank you for an invaluable tip:

I was having the same problem for the past month:

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
PFN_LIST_CORRUPT

but thought it was a driver or video card problem. I ran Memtest86 (SP?)
for four hours but nothing showed up. I had never heard of Prime95 until
you mentioned it so downloaded it and ran the stress test. It ran for
about 20 seconds before stopping with an error message. I tried it
again, same results, so I removed the 256Mb DIMM that was installed
about 6 months ago. Prime95 ran for over an hour and completed all tests
without skipping a beat.

I never thought of a memory problem, mainly because it had been in the
circuit for so long with no apparent problems. Live and learn...

Again, a big thank you for the tip!!!

Tom - Vista, CA

No problem I`m glad it helped - interesting feedback about Prime 95 its good
becuase it runs under the operating system while memtest86 and the microsoft
memory test program run under DOS for anyone else who reads this and
recognises the symptoms download Prime 95 here

http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm

It doesn`t always find problems so quickly it can sometimes take hours and
hours best to run it for 12 hours + before giving it the all clear.
 
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Thanks for all the advice. I downloaded Prime 95 and it suggested that I had a hardware problem. I removed my oldest memory stick from my PC and now my PC does not suffer from regular crashes.
 

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