P4C800-Deluxe. Dual processor ?!? & 200Mhz ?!?

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Frank Guchelaar

Hi,

a couple of weeks ago I bought myself en new mobo (Asus P4C800-Deluxe), a
new processor (Intel P4 2,6Ghz FSB833) and some new memory (2x PC3200
256Mb). Mounted everyting, reinstalled WinXP. Works like a charm!

When I recently started Adobe Premiere Pro I noticed the text
'Multiprocessor' on the splash screen. Strange since I only have on
processor. So I decided to take a look at my hardware configuration:
http://members.home.nl/fguchelaar/apparaat.jpg. This isn't the cause of the
Dual Channel capabilities is it???

The second strange thing I noticed was after I ran 'Nero Infotool'. I
noticed the line 'Bus speed: 200Mhz' on the 'Hardware' tab:
http://members.home.nl/fguchelaar/nero.jpg. What does it mean?? The board
should run on 833Mhz, shouldn't it?

Any clues??
Thanks,
Frank
 
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Guest

Frank Guchelaar said:
Hi,

a couple of weeks ago I bought myself en new mobo (Asus P4C800-Deluxe), a
new processor (Intel P4 2,6Ghz FSB833) and some new memory (2x PC3200
256Mb). Mounted everyting, reinstalled WinXP. Works like a charm!

When I recently started Adobe Premiere Pro I noticed the text
'Multiprocessor' on the splash screen. Strange since I only have on
processor. So I decided to take a look at my hardware configuration:
http://members.home.nl/fguchelaar/apparaat.jpg. This isn't the cause of the
Dual Channel capabilities is it???

No, I think that's because of HyperThreading, which makes windows think
there are two seperate processors

The second strange thing I noticed was after I ran 'Nero Infotool'. I
noticed the line 'Bus speed: 200Mhz' on the 'Hardware' tab:
http://members.home.nl/fguchelaar/nero.jpg. What does it mean?? The board
should run on 833Mhz, shouldn't it?
No, it shouldn't. FSB (B of bus) = 200Mhz, which is converted by some quad
thing inside the processor to 800Mhz, certainly NOT 833 Mhz.
 
F

Frank Guchelaar

When I recently started Adobe Premiere Pro I noticed the text
No, I think that's because of HyperThreading, which makes windows think
there are two seperate processors

Sounds reasonable.
No, it shouldn't. FSB (B of bus) = 200Mhz, which is converted by some quad
thing inside the processor to 800Mhz, certainly NOT 833 Mhz.

Oops, I was confused with 533... that seems to be a legal value.

So by your opinion, everything does what it supposed to do?
 
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Guest

Frank Guchelaar said:
Sounds reasonable.


Oops, I was confused with 533... that seems to be a legal value.

So by your opinion, everything does what it supposed to do?

Yup. Windows isn't (yet) equipped to recognize HyperThreading.
You can compare the 200->800Mhz thing with the PC3200 or DDR400 notation,
it's just marketing really: high numbers sell better.
 
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Mistoffolees

Nittaku said:
Yup. Windows isn't (yet) equipped to recognize HyperThreading.
You can compare the 200->800Mhz thing with the PC3200 or DDR400 notation,
it's just marketing really: high numbers sell better.

Windows XP (and reportedly Windows 2000-SP4) works with HT. The
real holdback is the number of applications that are designed and programmed
for multi-processors. But nothing wrong with having this capability when doing
multi-tasking.
 
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Guest

Mistoffolees said:
Windows XP (and reportedly Windows 2000-SP4) works with HT.

And they do so by "thinking" there are 2 processors. They don't really
"recognize" it as a single CPU with HyperThreading activated
 
R

Rob Stow

Nittaku said:
Infotool'. I



And they do so by "thinking" there are 2 processors. They don't really
"recognize" it as a single CPU with HyperThreading activated

Windows 2000 does not distinguish between physical and logical
processors regardless of the Service Pack. Hence if you have
HT-enabled, your processor appears to the OS as two processors.

In some situations this might make it appear as if you have
more processors than your software is licensed for. In this
event, the first logical processor on each physical processor
will be used.

Windows XP behaves similarly - until you patch it so that it
know how to distinguish between physical and logical processors.
Unpatched XP will see a HT-enabled processor as two processors.
Patched it will see it as a single HT-enabled processor. I can't
remember if the patch was part of SP1 or a separate post-SP1 patch.
 
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127.0.0.1

thats normal its call hypertread technologies like having 2 cpu's but you
only have one
so enjoy that nice product lol
 
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DaveW

The FSB speed of the motherboard is 200MHz. The Intel P4 CPU you have has a
4x internal multiplier and so runs at 800MHz internally (NOT 833MHz.) The
CPU also has HyperThreading and so shows up as two processors; it can run
two threads at once.
 
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BobMarley

I run XP at home... it is hyperthreading aware.
Also running W2K SP3 at work, Server version... it's also HT aware....
 

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