p4 2.8 ht slower than amd +2600

[alan lim]

hi to all,

I have 2 setup of the following specs

system 1

p4 2.8c ht / msi 875P neo motherboard
Elsa Gladiac525 ti 4200 128mb video card
60 Gb SATA maxtor hd
1 GB kingston ram
tdk cyclone cd/rw
msi dvd rom

system 2

amd +2600 / abit nf7 motherboard
albatron ti 4280 128mb video card
40 GB maxtor IDE hd
1 GB kingston ram
generic cd rom
hp 8200 cd/rw

I have been working on both computers actively and have observed that my
system 1 actually perform slower than system 2.
System 1 took double the time in opening application and general working on
software like photoshop and 3dmax.

Isn't system 1 a better machine than 2? I have swap every piece of
hardware, like the ram and video card, as well as remove
cdrom. But system 2 still out perform 1 in every aspect. Or can I simply say
amd is far more superior that intel when it come to raw cpu comparison.

Could the problem be in the SATA HDD? like I might have configure wrongly.
some how.( this is my first SATA hd installed), like maybe need special
setting.

Please advise.

Thanks a million

Alan

 

[Ben]

hi to all,

I have 2 setup of the following specs

system 1

p4 2.8c ht / msi 875P neo motherboard
Elsa Gladiac525 ti 4200 128mb video card
60 Gb SATA maxtor hd
1 GB kingston ram
tdk cyclone cd/rw
msi dvd rom

system 2

amd +2600 / abit nf7 motherboard
albatron ti 4280 128mb video card
40 GB maxtor IDE hd
1 GB kingston ram
generic cd rom
hp 8200 cd/rw

I have been working on both computers actively and have observed that my
system 1 actually perform slower than system 2.
System 1 took double the time in opening application and general working on
software like photoshop and 3dmax.

Isn't system 1 a better machine than 2? I have swap every piece of
hardware, like the ram and video card, as well as remove
cdrom. But system 2 still out perform 1 in every aspect. Or can I simply say
amd is far more superior that intel when it come to raw cpu comparison.

Could the problem be in the SATA HDD? like I might have configure wrongly.
some how.( this is my first SATA hd installed), like maybe need special
setting.

Please advise.

Thanks a million

Alan

How about playing a game........
Thank you for doing this for us.
I wish you have a good day.

 

[frodo]

hi to all,

I have 2 setup of the following specs

system 1

p4 2.8c ht / msi 875P neo motherboard
Elsa Gladiac525 ti 4200 128mb video card
60 Gb SATA maxtor hd
1 GB kingston ram
tdk cyclone cd/rw
msi dvd rom

system 2

amd +2600 / abit nf7 motherboard
albatron ti 4280 128mb video card
40 GB maxtor IDE hd
1 GB kingston ram
generic cd rom
hp 8200 cd/rw

etc etc etc

You are right, I would expect system 1 to be faster, if setup correctly.

1) are memory timings set optimally? and set to 1:1? and dual-channel
w/ only two DIMMS (in the right slots)? 875 should cook w/ the right
ram.
2) is DMA enabled for the HD's in both systems? Is the SATA on ICH5 or a
third party chip? Are both systems NTFS, w/ 4K cluster, created by XP
setup
and NOT by a previous windows version's FDISK (older versions did
not align partitions properly and can cause ntfs volumes w/ 512 byte
clusters, which REALLY slow down the system). How is it partitioned,
several 20-30 gig partitions will work better than one big one.
3) is XP's prefetching working on both systems?
4) run some proc, mem, and HD benchmarks to get hard data. I recommend
SiSoft Sandra.

As a general rule, AMD processors will out-run Intel for "bussiness type"
applications, due to their shorter pipelines which favor "branchy code",
but Intel will out-run AMD for computationally heavy tasks, such as
audio/video encoding/decoding, or heavy floating-point stuff.

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I'd recommend you frequent an MSI forum or newsgroup and ask other MSI
owners for tips w/ that motherboard {especially related to the ICH5 SATA;
you probably want it is RAID "enhanced" mode, even tho you're not raid'ing
it (yet)}. It should cook!