outlook express

[qcanpc18]

Confused- will I lose outlook express when new version comes out? Do I have
to leave xp? Will xp support outlook express so I do not have to chose a new
e mail program? If I has to chose what do I use safely? The reason I am
asking is because people at cloudeight say we should not use program that
will be in the 7 upgrade- not to check it off i download- I am so confused-
perhaps I should just use outlook even if I have to buy it. Thanks in advance

 

[Alias]

Confused- will I lose outlook express when new version comes out? Do I have
to leave xp? Will xp support outlook express so I do not have to chose a new
e mail program? If I has to chose what do I use safely? The reason I am
asking is because people at cloudeight say we should not use program that
will be in the 7 upgrade- not to check it off i download- I am so confused-
perhaps I should just use outlook even if I have to buy it. Thanks in advance

OE is being put out to pasture. Windows 7 will come with access to
Windows Live Mail which is just as bad as OE. I would recommend
Thunderbird. It's free and you can get it at www.mozilla.com/thunderbird.

Alias

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Confused- will I lose outlook express when new version comes out? Do I
have
to leave xp? Will xp support outlook express so I do not have to chose a
new
e mail program? If I has to chose what do I use safely? The reason I am
asking is because people at cloudeight say we should not use program that
will be in the 7 upgrade- not to check it off i download- I am so
confused-
perhaps I should just use outlook even if I have to buy it. Thanks in
advance

You write "when new version comes out?" New version of what? Anyway, since
you're asking about OE, it would be best to ask the experts in an OE
newsgroup.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Confused- will I lose outlook express when new version comes out?

Exactly what do you mean by "when new version comes out"?

Do I have
to leave xp?

Do you mean when Windows 7 is released? Of course you don't have to
leave XP. The choice of whether or not to do so is yours.

Will xp support outlook express so I do not have to chose a new
e mail program?

XP already supports Outlook Express. If you are asking about XP, it
doesn't appear that you are asking about Windows 7, so I repeat my
original question above.

If I has to chose what do I use safely?

Are you now asking what E-mail program you can use safely? Safety has
almost nothing to do with the question. You can use whatever E-mail
you prefer as long as it runs on the operating system you are using.
Outlook Express is only one of many E-mail programs that run on
Windows XP, and you can choose among them now. I personally use
Outlook under Windows XP, because I prefer it to Outlook Express.

On Windows Vista, the E-mail program that comes with it is called
Windows Mail, but, despite the new name, it's essentially just the new
version of Outlook Express. On my Windows Vista computers, I also run
Outlook, because I prefer it to Windows Mail or other alternatives.

I haven't seen the Windows 7 beta myself, but my understanding is that
no E-mail program comes with it. So if at some point you upgrade to
Windows 7, you will have to choose what E-mail program you prefer.

The reason I am
asking is because people at cloudeight say we should not use program that
will be in the 7 upgrade

I don't know who the "people at cloudeight" are or why you feel their
advice should be trusted, but if they are talking about the E-mail
program that comes with Windows 7, they don't know what they are
talking about, since there is no such program.

- not to check it off i download- I am so confused-
perhaps I should just use outlook even if I have to buy it. Thanks in advance

Your choice of E-mail programs, both now and at any time in the
future, should be the one that *you* like the best. Ignore my opinion
that Outlook is better than Outlook Express or anyone else's opinion
about what's best. We all use these programs differently and different
features can be important to you than to me or anyone else. Try
several (many are freeware or shareware with a trial period) and
decide which *you* prefer.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

[x-post to OE General & OE Stationery newsgroups]

If you're referring to upgrading to or installing Windows 7, as I suspect
your are, Windows 7 will not include OE or any other default Mail Client
*including* Windows Live Mail.

I suspect you grew concerned when you read
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/windows7.htm. Whoever wrote that needs to
do some additional research: While many OEMs (e.g., Dell) will be
preinstalling Windows Live Essentials in Windows 7, that does not mean any
Windows Live application are installed. Windows Live Essentials is the
installer used to download/install applications such as Windows Live Mail
and Windows Live Messenger.

 

[Mick Murphy]

In XP, you can use Outlook Expressas long as you like.
It is part of XP, and you can use XP as long as you want to.
Microsoft will support XP until 2014, but it will still work after that..

In Vista, Outlook Express has been replaced by Windows Mail, which is
inferior to Outlook Express.
And, Outlook Express can NOT be installed on Vista.

In Windows 7 Beta(testing purpose only), there is no email Program
pre-installed with it at the present time(if ever!).
And, you will not be able to install Outlook Express in Windows 7.

The workaround for you, as you like Outlook Express, is to install Outlook,
if you ever go to Vista or Windows 7, as you can save, import contacts and
messages into it from Outlook Express..

 

[qcanpc18]

Thankyou Mr Murphy for your very nice answer, I appreciated what you told me,
I am sorry if I posted this question in the wrong place. You told me what I
was hoping for because as a senior citizen I am very comfortable with xp pro.
I have had no problems with it or outlook express so now I do not have to
rush into any changes. Now how do I go about getting outlook? Also , when
windows 7 is offered as a download can I not install it?

 

[peter]

Outlook is a purchased program in MS Office...an expensive suite of programs
Windows 7 will NOT be offered for download....it is a "new" operating system
that is supposed to replace Vista.
Just like Vista was supposed to replace XP. .and as such needs to be bought.
At the present time it is offered in a BETA format for testing purposes only
and as such expires in Aug/09.. at which point thereafter
it will be offered for sale.
and I would not suggest you to install a BETA program onto your system.

If you are aiming to upgrade to Windows 7 in the future might I suggest you
download and install Windows Live Mail and use it along side
Outlook Express. In this manner you could familiarize yourself with a new
program while still having and using the old one.

peter

 

[qcanpc18]

thank you all, I feel much more informed now-

Outlook is a purchased program in MS Office...an expensive suite of programs
Windows 7 will NOT be offered for download....it is a "new" operating system
that is supposed to replace Vista.
Just like Vista was supposed to replace XP. .and as such needs to be bought.
At the present time it is offered in a BETA format for testing purposes only
and as such expires in Aug/09.. at which point thereafter
it will be offered for sale.
and I would not suggest you to install a BETA program onto your system.

If you are aiming to upgrade to Windows 7 in the future might I suggest you
download and install Windows Live Mail and use it along side
Outlook Express. In this manner you could familiarize yourself with a new
program while still having and using the old one.

peter

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or disruptive,please ignore it.
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[Kelly]

Hi There,

No one can force you to leave XP. Goes along with the old adage: If it
ain't broke don't fix it.

Other than that, Outlook comes with the Office package and if you haven't
purchased it by now, then you don't need it.

For XP: Outlook Express
For Vista: Windows Mail
For W7: Windows Live Mail

OE comes with XP, Windows Mail comes with Vista and Windows Live Mail is a
free download for Windows 7 -which prompts you upon request - no searching
needed.

Takes a bit of getting used to, but it can be modified to even look as XP-OE
did and does, plus more.

Personally, I miss OE. )

--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm

 

[Kelly]

Great response, 'Bear.

--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm

[x-post to OE General & OE Stationery newsgroups]

If you're referring to upgrading to or installing Windows 7, as I suspect
your are, Windows 7 will not include OE or any other default Mail Client
*including* Windows Live Mail.

I suspect you grew concerned when you read
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/windows7.htm. Whoever wrote that needs to
do some additional research: While many OEMs (e.g., Dell) will be
preinstalling Windows Live Essentials in Windows 7, that does not mean any
Windows Live application are installed. Windows Live Essentials is the
installer used to download/install applications such as Windows Live Mail
and Windows Live Messenger.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Confused- will I lose outlook express when new version comes out? Do I
have
to leave xp? Will xp support outlook express so I do not have to chose a
new
e mail program? If I has to chose what do I use safely? The reason I am
asking is because people at cloudeight say we should not use program that
will be in the 7 upgrade- not to check it off i download- I am so
confused-
perhaps I should just use outlook even if I have to buy it. Thanks in
advance

 

[Mick Murphy]

Glad to help.


--
Mad Mike

Thankyou Mr Murphy for your very nice answer, I appreciated what you told me,
I am sorry if I posted this question in the wrong place. You told me what I
was hoping for because as a senior citizen I am very comfortable with xp pro.
I have had no problems with it or outlook express so now I do not have to
rush into any changes. Now how do I go about getting outlook? Also , when
windows 7 is offered as a download can I not install it?

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

The Crystal Ball© came up with it, I just posted it.

Great response, 'Bear.

[x-post to OE General & OE Stationery newsgroups]

If you're referring to upgrading to or installing Windows 7, as I suspect
your are, Windows 7 will not include OE or any other default Mail Client
*including* Windows Live Mail.

I suspect you grew concerned when you read
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/windows7.htm. Whoever wrote that needs
to
do some additional research: While many OEMs (e.g., Dell) will be
preinstalling Windows Live Essentials in Windows 7, that does not mean
any
Windows Live application are installed. Windows Live Essentials is the
installer used to download/install applications such as Windows Live Mail
and Windows Live Messenger.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Confused- will I lose outlook express when new version comes out? Do I
have
to leave xp? Will xp support outlook express so I do not have to chose a
new
e mail program? If I has to chose what do I use safely? The reason I am
asking is because people at cloudeight say we should not use program
that
will be in the 7 upgrade- not to check it off i download- I am so
confused-
perhaps I should just use outlook even if I have to buy it. Thanks in
advance

 

[Alias]

Why don't you honestly say that is your opinion?

I wrote the post so obviously it's my opinion. Had I wrote "Microsoft
says" then it would be Microsoft's opinion. English 101.

You're posting emotions
not facts.

I posted two facts and one opinion. See below.

Obvious fact.

Windows 7 will come with access to Windows

Obvious fact.

I would recommend Thunderbird. It's

Obvious opinion.

Do you really need to have everything spelled out for you?

Alias

 

[qcanpc18]

I thank you all for enlighting me, I think perhaps I will just keep my xp and
outlook express, if its good until 2014 that is ok with me- installing
outlook would be the way to go if I had to, prices are coming down-

 

[Frank Slootweg]

In Vista, Outlook Express has been replaced by Windows Mail, which is
inferior to Outlook Express.
And, Outlook Express can NOT be installed on Vista.

In which way do you think Windows Mail is inferior to Outlook Express?

As far as I can tell (I use both), there's nothing different, let
alone 'inferior', at the normal user level. 'Under the hood', there are
changes, mainly the message database format, but, as far as I'm
concerned, that is an *improvement*, i.e. less likely to lose many/all
messages at once due to a crash, etc..

[...]

 

[qcanpc18]

You all are great, perhaps in my lifetime, which by the way is 3/4 over,
microsoft will listen and keep things which have proven good- I too would
miss oe, however I will keep it as long as I can- Kelly, my late father used
that expression to us all the time- Thanks -

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

In which way do you think Windows Mail is inferior to Outlook Express?

As far as I can tell (I use both), there's nothing different, let
alone 'inferior', at the normal user level.

"*Nothing* different" is somewhat of an overstatement, but you're
right that (except for what's under the hood) there isn't a lot that's
different. That's because Windows Mail is essentially just the newest
version of Outlook Express. For a long time, many people confused the
two very different programs, Outlook and Outlook Express, so Microsoft
took the good step of changing Outlook Express's name instead of just
giving it a new version number.

Unfortunately, they also created a whole new round of confusion of
similar names, with "Windows Mail" sounding very much like "Windows
Live Mail," etc.

'Under the hood', there are
changes, mainly the message database format, but, as far as I'm
concerned, that is an *improvement*, i.e. less likely to lose many/all
messages at once due to a crash, etc..

[...]

 

[Kelly]

Ah, do you have an extra one? )

--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm

The Crystal Ball© came up with it, I just posted it.

Great response, 'Bear.

[x-post to OE General & OE Stationery newsgroups]

If you're referring to upgrading to or installing Windows 7, as I
suspect
your are, Windows 7 will not include OE or any other default Mail Client
*including* Windows Live Mail.

I suspect you grew concerned when you read
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/windows7.htm. Whoever wrote that needs
to
do some additional research: While many OEMs (e.g., Dell) will be
preinstalling Windows Live Essentials in Windows 7, that does not mean
any
Windows Live application are installed. Windows Live Essentials is the
installer used to download/install applications such as Windows Live
Mail
and Windows Live Messenger.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

qcanpc18 wrote:
Confused- will I lose outlook express when new version comes out? Do I
have
to leave xp? Will xp support outlook express so I do not have to chose
a
new
e mail program? If I has to chose what do I use safely? The reason I am
asking is because people at cloudeight say we should not use program
that
will be in the 7 upgrade- not to check it off i download- I am so
confused-
perhaps I should just use outlook even if I have to buy it. Thanks in
advance

 

[Alias]

You all are great, perhaps in my lifetime, which by the way is 3/4 over,
microsoft will listen and keep things which have proven good- I too would
miss oe, however I will keep it as long as I can- Kelly, my late father used
that expression to us all the time- Thanks -

If you knew how easy it is to back up and restore Thunderbird, you would
never use OE again. Not to mention the fact that OE has limits on each
..dbx file and compacting messages can nuke all your emails, whereas
T-Bird has no such limits. In addition, Thunderbird has an excellent
junk mail feature and corrects spelling on the fly and OE doesn't.

Alias