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[Shenan Stanley]

Can you talk about other stuff execpt hardware?
i don`t think Microsoft or Windows will know about it
will they?

You ask the difference between 'etiquette' and 'reality'.

Can you talk about other stuff except hardware?
Well, sure. Etiquette might say you should try a newsgroup better suited to
your topic, but if you want to post about your chronic foot pain here - go
for it.

Will "Microsoft" (as if they are some single entity) know about the posts
you put here?
Uhm - some people from Microsoft might. Caring and knowing - two different
things.

 

[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

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Can you talk about other stuff execpt hardware? i don`t think Microsoft or
Windows will know about it will they?

Sure let's start with the moronic FW who deliberately posts in HTML and post
dates. You have been told Hades knows how many times to *FIX YOUR
CALENDAR*, but you have failed to do so. Microsoft can - and very often do -
ban deliberate - and persistent - post-daters.

 

[*Vanguard*]

Can you talk about other stuff execpt hardware? i don`t think
Microsoft or Windows will know about it will they?

Posting about, for example, why Outlook Express won't allow access to
attachments obviously has nothing to do with hardware. If you post off
topic, expect to get ignored or harangued by the user community that
habitates the newsgroup.

Posting in HTML format is usually considered a wrong format. Many users
will have already configured their newsreader client to read in
plain-text to avoid the fluff of HTML since it is rarely required,
resulting in the HTML version of post appearing as an attachment to it.
Many participants will not bother to open the HTML attachment and may,
as a matter of security, never open any attachments. So don't waste
HTML in posts where that formatting is extraneous fluff that is ignored,
considered hazardous, or simply wastes more space in your posts for a
plain-text copy and a duplicated HTML copy. In OE, you can select which
format to use for e-mail and for newsgroups, and they can be different.
Configure for plain-text for newsgroups, please.

Also, the signature delimiter of "-- " means everything below it is your
signature. Newsreaders may strip off signatures since often it is
egocentric fluff, may contain links, and everything under it may get
stripped out in a reply to your post (which would then also include your
message). Basically you posted your question as part of your signature.
Since you are using Outlook Express, and since you obviously recorded a
signature which is also configured to get added to every message, you
wrongly added your message *after* (and within) your signature instead
of before it.

 

[PCyr]

Your language is inappropriate.

1) It's not 1990 anymore. There are no *rules* against posting in HTML, if
you want your plain text, then that's *your* problem. If you don't like it,
*ask* him not to post in HTML.

2) How many Hades times has he post dated? Twice. Annoying yes, but maybe
if your posts didn't start by calling him an FW, he might actually continue
reading your post and change his clock.

abuse report sent to: (e-mail address removed)

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[Nathan McNulty]

First, what is a FW? Second, he has post dated 3 times and about topics
that don't have anything to do with this NG. He has spammed this
newsgroup about something he supposedly made (like anyone would buy it
anyways). He just needs to be banned if he can't follow the guidelines.

 

[PCyr]

A FW is a f**kwit. It's a term the MPT uses often.

If Zachary D. Wilson can not follow the rules by postdating and spamming,
then he should be banned.

If MPT can not follow the rules by swearing and insulting other users
(deserving or innocent), then she should be banned.

You don't actually thing that swearing at the guy is going to make him stop?
Do you? There is no justification for it, and it is rude to the other users
here that read MPT's profane posts.

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[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

First, what is a FW? Second, he has post dated 3 times and about
topics that don't have anything to do with this NG. He has spammed
this newsgroup about something he supposedly made (like anyone would
buy it anyways). He just needs to be banned if he can't follow the
guidelines.

Ignore it, Nathan. Pot. Kettle. Paulie here has been banned from the groups
at least once himself. I have had his Hotmail account terminated twice
because he sent me a barrage of viruses and abusive emails. He is about 14
and only posts here because he's procrastinating.

Hotmail's T&C state that if you are banned from Hotmail you stay banned.
They lie. Nevermind, he's back in the bozo-bin.

 

[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

A FW is a f**kwit. It's a term the MPT uses often.

If Zachary D. Wilson can not follow the rules by postdating and
spamming, then he should be banned.

If MPT can not follow the rules by swearing and insulting other users
(deserving or innocent), then she should be banned.

You don't actually thing that swearing at the guy is going to make
him stop? Do you? There is no justification for it, and it is rude
to the other users here that read MPT's profane posts.

Paul I think I hear your mother calling you. Don't you have something to do,
like tidying your bedroom, or washing the car? Or your homework.

If you're going to accuse someone of something, at least get your facts
straight. I have never once used an obscenity anywhere in these groups.

Back in the bozo-bin with you.

 

[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

Your language is inappropriate.

I'm not going to be dictated to by someone who is (almost) young enough to
be my son.

1) It's not 1990 anymore. There are no *rules* against posting in
HTML, if you want your plain text, then that's *your* problem. If
you don't like it, *ask* him not to post in HTML.

What would you know about 1990? You weren't even BORN!

HTML is considered bad form for several reasons

1) Waste of bandwidth (a 5-line message written in HTML can take up to
TWENTY times the amount of bandwidth than if it was written in plain text.
IOW, a message that would be 2K if written in plain text could take up as
much as 40K if written in HTML. That means he's hogged the bandwidth that
could have been used for TWENTY other messages.

2) It can harbour script viruses (OK, they're not so common these days,
but they're still around).

3) Some servers delete HTML from where it doesn't belong (if he had
wanted help, he'd have seriously curtailed his chances of receiving any).

2) How many Hades times has he post dated? Twice. Annoying yes, but
maybe if your posts didn't start by calling him an FW, he might
actually continue reading your post and change his clock.

May I suggest you sign up for Remedial Maths 101? He has posted FOUR times
and his clock has been off by a month each time. I wasn't the only one to
tell him.

Why post-dating is a bad idea: -

1) It's incredibly rude - it's the Usenet equivalent of queue jumping.

2) It's a tactic used by spammers (like our friend here) and many servers
will delete the posts.

3) MS isn't averse to removing post-dated messages if they are
signifcantly off.

4) Many won't respond to post-dated posts (other than to tell the poster
their settings are wrong).

5) Because of all of the above, he most likely won't be assisted and some
will even kill-flike (which is just what I'm going to do to you).

abuse report (including full headers) sent to (e-mail address removed).

 

[PCyr]

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Paul I think I hear your mother calling you. Don't you have something to
do,
like tidying your bedroom, or washing the car? Or your homework.

Well your a poopie head! - You don't have anything better to say then
personal attacks? LOL! At least I'm able to attack your actions, instead
of arguing like a 5 year old and calling names that could apply to anyone.
You see, that's the difference between arguing well, and arguing like a 5
year old - when you argue well, you attack the facts at hand and point out
the flaws in the person's reasoning. When you argue like a 5 year old, you
say the same thing to everyone, regardless of what's being talked about, and
has no relevence to the .

If you're going to accuse someone of something, at least get your facts
straight. I have never once used an obscenity anywhere in these groups.

Wow, for someone with an "English degree", you are sure having trouble
reading.

"...start with the moronic FW who deliberately..."

Now, let's take a look at the definition of obscenity:
(http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=obscenity)


4 entries found for obscenity.

ob·scen·i·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (b-sn-t, b-)
n. pl. ob·scen·i·ties
-The state or quality of being obscene.
-Indecency, lewdness, or offensiveness in behavior, expression, or
appearance.
-Something, such as a word, act, or expression, that is indecent or lewd.
-Something that is offensive or repulsive to the senses: "What had once been
a gentle hill covered with lush grass turned into a brown obscenity of bare
earth and smoke" (Tom Clancy).


Now, let's take a look at indecent, since this definition for obscenity is a
bit vauge (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=indecent):


2 entries found for indecent.

in·de·cent ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-dsnt)
adj.
-Offensive to good taste; unseemly.
-Offensive to public moral values; immodest. See Synonyms at improper.


Hmm... so calling someone a moronic f**kwit isn't offensive to good taste?
Maybe in the streets of downtown New York or something.

Back in the bozo-bin with you.

How do I keep getting out? You've said this about 5 times now, but I
somehow escape! Care to clarify?

 

[PCyr]

LOL! Oh, I'm going to enjoy tearing into these "facts"

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Ignore it, Nathan. Pot. Kettle. Paulie here has been banned from the
groups
at least once himself.

Really you ugly poopie head? I'm surprised I never realized that. Could
you tell me when that happened?

I have had his Hotmail account terminated twice

Really? Which ones? I know there was the (e-mail address removed), but what
was the other one?

because he sent me a barrage of viruses and abusive emails.

Abusive, yes, containing viruses, no.

He is about 14

Stuck in a timewarp? When I started posting here I was 15, and that was
almost a year ago.

And what does age have to do with it? Does age somehow disqualify me from
making an arguement?

If I used you as an example, I'd say everyone over 40 or how ever old you
are can't make an arguement without slinging what's in their diapers at the
poster.

and only posts here because he's procrastinating.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=procrastinating

So what am I putting off? I just got a new grade 11 chemistry credit at
summer school with an 89%. So what is it that I'm supposed to be doing, but
am not.

I see you got your crystal ball in the mail, and now know so much about me.

At least I don't call every other person a moronic f**kwit, who can spell,
while making my own share of spelling mistakes. So what is a brancell?

Hotmail's T&C state that if you are banned from Hotmail you stay banned.
They lie. Nevermind, he's back in the bozo-bin.

And yet I keep getting out! Something wrong with your mouse? Can't hit the
Block Senders List... selection without hitting Cancel?


And you really expect users to believe someone who's abusive to innocent
users, proven to lie and habitually acts like a hypocrite?

 

[PCyr]

LOL! Oh, I'm going to enjoy tearing into these "facts"

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Ignore it, Nathan. Pot. Kettle. Paulie here has been banned from the
groups
at least once himself.

Really you ugly poopie head? I'm surprised I never realized that. Could
you tell me when that happened?

I have had his Hotmail account terminated twice

Really? Which ones? I know there was the (e-mail address removed), but what
was the other one?

because he sent me a barrage of viruses and abusive emails.

Abusive, yes, containing viruses, no.

He is about 14

Stuck in a timewarp? When I started posting here I was 15, and that was
almost a year ago.

And what does age have to do with it? Does age somehow disqualify me from
making an arguement?

If I used you as an example, I'd say everyone over 40 or how ever old you
are can't make an arguement without slinging what's in their diapers at the
poster.

and only posts here because he's procrastinating.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=procrastinating

So what am I putting off? I just got a new grade 11 chemistry credit at
summer school with an 89%. So what is it that I'm supposed to be doing, but
am not.

I see you got your crystal ball in the mail, and now know so much about me.

At least I don't call every other person a moronic f**kwit, who can spell,
while making my own share of spelling mistakes. So what is a brancell?

Hotmail's T&C state that if you are banned from Hotmail you stay banned.
They lie. Nevermind, he's back in the bozo-bin.

And yet I keep getting out! Something wrong with your mouse? Can't hit the
Block Senders List... selection without hitting Cancel?


And you really expect users to believe someone who's abusive to innocent
users, proven to lie and habitually acts like a hypocrite?

 

[PCyr]

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I'm not going to be dictated to by someone who is (almost) young enough to
be my son.

I see your English degree serves you once again. I'm making a statement,
not a command.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=dictated

What would you know about 1990? You weren't even BORN!

It's called history http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=history and I
was born actually. I was two years old as a matter of fact.

HTML is considered bad form for several reasons

1) Waste of bandwidth (a 5-line message written in HTML can take up to
TWENTY times the amount of bandwidth than if it was written in plain text.
IOW, a message that would be 2K if written in plain text could take up as
much as 40K if written in HTML. That means he's hogged the bandwidth that
could have been used for TWENTY other messages.

Really? It was only 2KB, this reply will be over 3KB, without HTML, your
not going to freak at users for not keeping thier plain text messages down
to 1KB are you?

2) It can harbour script viruses (OK, they're not so common these days,
but they're still around).

Which is why you don't set your security settings as low as they can go.

3) Some servers delete HTML from where it doesn't belong (if he had
wanted help, he'd have seriously curtailed his chances of receiving any).




May I suggest you sign up for Remedial Maths 101? He has posted FOUR times
and his clock has been off by a month each time. I wasn't the only one to
tell him.

I did a Google Groups search to find these four post-dated messages, I only
found two. Even if he posted for, I still counted the results right, which
means I need Websearching 101, not Remedial Maths 101.

Why post-dating is a bad idea: -

1) It's incredibly rude - it's the Usenet equivalent of queue jumping.

2) It's a tactic used by spammers (like our friend here) and many
servers
will delete the posts.

3) MS isn't averse to removing post-dated messages if they are
signifcantly off.

4) Many won't respond to post-dated posts (other than to tell the
poster
their settings are wrong).

5) Because of all of the above, he most likely won't be assisted and
some
will even kill-flike (which is just what I'm going to do to you).

I wasn't debating whether post-dating is inappropriate, I was debating
whether your post was inappropriate.

abuse report (including full headers) sent to (e-mail address removed).

So what did you say? "This user is arguing with me! Ban him!"

 

[PCyr]

*When you argue like a 5 year old, you
say the same thing to everyone, regardless of what's being talked about, and
has no relevence to the arguement.

 

[PCyr]

And since I know your going to jump on my "for" typo, I'm correcting myself,
and I don't claim to have an English degree.

It should be four, not for.

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[PCyr]

Oh, and it wasn't even a "barrage of ... abusive emails"

What was it, like 4, 5, or 6? (Rhetorical question BTW) On different days,
regarding different points.

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[PCyr]

And what exactly does Hotmail have to do with anything? I haven't emailed
you, so are you just going to lie to them (again) and tell them that I'm
emailing you viri? Guess what, they'll take one look at their logs, see
that there's no email sent to (e-mail address removed) from my address and toss
you in the spammer/liar bin.

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[PCyr]

Oh, and yes, it is the pot calling the kettle black. Just do a search, and
you'll see users following me around, telling me to go to hell, and even
making entire threads complaining about me.


Oh wait, that never happened.

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[Gerry Cornell]

Paul

I find your statement "A FW is a f**kwit. It's a term the MPT uses often."
is not justified if you examine the facts.

Have you researched MPT's use of FW in Google? From it's context I think you
are right to assume it is abuse. However, it is not a term she has used
often! Reading another encounter you had recently a possible interpretation
is "firewire". I think you would be hard put to substantiate obscene
language. Abusive language yes. What she meant by FW she knows but we can
only guess!


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Gerry

 

[PCyr]

Has your search included her other aliases?

Sorry, your correct, MPT doesn't use it often, the person who posts as MPT
does.

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