OT: Damn that's a nice program...

[Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage]

I was having some problems with my computer earlier. I'm sure it's due to
too many running processes or something I've done/ installed etc. but, while
searching MS's site came across this:
http://www.windowsonecare.com/Default.aspx
Interested, and thinking; "maybe all those egg-heads were right and Norton's
suite IS a hog" decided to go through the lengthy process of dumping a bunch
of programs including all the Norton/Symantec stuff, restarting,
blah-blah-blah.
went through the process of downloading and installing the above referenced
software (much quicker and easier than the first (required) step).

My initial impressions are VERY positive.

the GUI that the task tray icon throws is real nice. there's some
additional "tune up" and restore, etc.
It's been really good about asking me each time there's internet connection
attempts, etc.
I haven't been using it for more than an hour but so far it's very good.


--
Chris Leeds,
Microsoft MVP-FrontPage

If you make web sites for other people, you should check out ContentSeed:
http://contentseed.com/
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[Kevin Spencer]

Very cool, Chris. I've been waiting for something like this from Microsoft
for a number of years. I will definitely try it out!

--

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer

Presuming that God is "only an idea" -
Ideas exist.
Therefore, God exists.

 

[Kerry]

I was having some problems with my computer earlier. I'm sure it's due to
too many running processes or something I've done/ installed etc. but,
while searching MS's site came across this:
http://www.windowsonecare.com/Default.aspx
Interested, and thinking; "maybe all those egg-heads were right and
Norton's suite IS a hog" decided to go through the lengthy process of
dumping a bunch of programs including all the Norton/Symantec stuff,
restarting, blah-blah-blah.
went through the process of downloading and installing the above
referenced software (much quicker and easier than the first (required)
step).

My initial impressions are VERY positive.

the GUI that the task tray icon throws is real nice. there's some
additional "tune up" and restore, etc.
It's been really good about asking me each time there's internet
connection attempts, etc.
I haven't been using it for more than an hour but so far it's very good.

I read somewhere that once they get it up and running MS were planning to
charge for this service. You'd think with all the problems we've had with
viri over the years they'd just include it in Windows.

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

Q. What is the plural of virus?
A. Viruses.

I read somewhere that once they get it up and running MS were planning to
charge for this service. You'd think with all the problems we've had with
viri over the years they'd just include it in Windows.

 

[Kevin Spencer]

I read somewhere that once they get it up and running MS were planning to

charge for this service. You'd think with all the problems we've had with
viri over the years they'd just include it in Windows.

Hmm, so the same goes for Symantec? Macafee? All the other security software
vendors?

Microsoft didn't create these viruses, and Microsoft is not a public service
agency. Do you do *your* job for free if it gets harder to do?

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer

Presuming that God is "only an idea" -
Ideas exist.
Therefore, God exists.

 

[Joe Rohn]

Thanks Chris!

Trying it out right now..and it does seem to be very good!

I wouldn't go near Norton due to some previous bad experiences..Mcafee has
seemed to be good for me for quite awhile..but that too is getting somewhat
"kludgy"

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Joe

Microsoft MVP FrontPage

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[Stefan B Rusynko]

Have had it running on one workstation for 3 months (replaced NIS) and it is far better than NIS

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|I was having some problems with my computer earlier. I'm sure it's due to
| too many running processes or something I've done/ installed etc. but, while
| searching MS's site came across this:
| http://www.windowsonecare.com/Default.aspx
| Interested, and thinking; "maybe all those egg-heads were right and Norton's
| suite IS a hog" decided to go through the lengthy process of dumping a bunch
| of programs including all the Norton/Symantec stuff, restarting,
| blah-blah-blah.
| went through the process of downloading and installing the above referenced
| software (much quicker and easier than the first (required) step).
|
| My initial impressions are VERY positive.
|
| the GUI that the task tray icon throws is real nice. there's some
| additional "tune up" and restore, etc.
| It's been really good about asking me each time there's internet connection
| attempts, etc.
| I haven't been using it for more than an hour but so far it's very good.
|
|
| --
| Chris Leeds,
| Microsoft MVP-FrontPage
|
| If you make web sites for other people, you should check out ContentSeed:
| http://contentseed.com/
| --
|
|

 

[Mike Mueller]

: I read somewhere that once they get it up and running MS
were planning to
: charge for this service. You'd think with all the problems
we've had with
: viri over the years they'd just include it in Windows.


If they did that then McAfee et al would dry up and go away,
and then come back to court saying anti trust. Common
business sense says why pay someone if you include it when
people will buy if you don't

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

The pricing and licensing for Windows One Care was announced in February:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/feb06/02-07OneCarePricingPR.mspx
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|: I read somewhere that once they get it up and running MS
| were planning to
| : charge for this service. You'd think with all the problems
| we've had with
| : viri over the years they'd just include it in Windows.
|
|
| If they did that then McAfee et al would dry up and go away,
| and then come back to court saying anti trust. Common
| business sense says why pay someone if you include it when
| people will buy if you don't
|
|

 

[Kerry]

Hmm, so the same goes for Symantec? Macafee? All the other security
software vendors?

Microsoft didn't create these viruses, and Microsoft is not a public
service agency. Do you do *your* job for free if it gets harder to do?

Ford or GM didn't invent thieves and bad driving either.

Imagine buying a new car, but it doesn't come with door locks, an ingition
lock, safety belts or air bags.

After purchasing the car you can drive to a business just down the street
who'll install those much needed safety and security devices for you - at a
cost.

You'd by a car like that?

 

[Windsun]

So you are saying that it is OK for Norton etc to charge, but not MS??

What am I missing?

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

That IS how we used to buy cars until the gov. required all the safety and
pollution crap on them.



|
|
| "Kevin Spencer" wrote
| > Hmm, so the same goes for Symantec? Macafee? All the other security
| > software vendors?
| >
| > Microsoft didn't create these viruses, and Microsoft is not a public
| > service agency. Do you do *your* job for free if it gets harder to do?
|
| Ford or GM didn't invent thieves and bad driving either.
|
| Imagine buying a new car, but it doesn't come with door locks, an ingition
| lock, safety belts or air bags.
|
| After purchasing the car you can drive to a business just down the street
| who'll install those much needed safety and security devices for you - at
a
| cost.
|
| You'd by a car like that?
|
|

 

[Windsun]

Yeah, it really sucks that the car accident death rate has dropped 50% since
1960, and the pollution levels here in Phoenix are only 1/4 of what they
used to be

 

[Kevin Spencer]

Imagine buying a new car, but it doesn't come with door locks, an ingition

lock, safety belts or air bags.

I don't have to imagine it, Kerry. I did it, just like everyone else did,
before those things existed, and before the government forced car companies
to include these things in the design of new cars. Actually, ignition locks
are not required by law. Yet.

And back then, yeah, you did pay extra for it. And you still pay extra for
anything that isn't mandatory. Like ignition locks.

Now, one might argue the merits of the government requiring safety devices
for cars. Arguably, they save lives. Has a computer virus ever killed anyone
you know?

I have virus protection software. But I seldom use it. Know why? I don't do
things that get me a virus. And the existing software from Symantec and
other virus protection software companies sucks.

I will be 50 years old this month. And I have learned that everything we
humans have, we create. That includes our food, our clothing and our
shelter. When I was young, my parents provided those things for me. They had
to work to do it. Now, I AM my parents. And I realize that, someone has to
pay for everything. If I don't, who will? The government? Where do you think
*they* get their money from? Someone, somewhere, has to work for it. And
everything we have, everything we need, *someone* has to pay for it.

So, the next time you enjoy something you think was free, or rightfully
yours for some reason, just ask yourself - who paid for it?

Who are your parents? And when they are no longer around, who *will be*?

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer

Presuming that God is "only an idea" -
Ideas exist.
Therefore, God exists.

 

[Kevin Spencer]

Yeah, it really sucks that the car accident death rate has dropped 50%

since 1960, and the pollution levels here in Phoenix are only 1/4 of what
they used to be

And that has what do do with the issue being discussed?

If you think that the government regulating every aspect of your life is a
good thing, go read "1984" by George Orwell. Then ask yourself, is America
we the land of the free, and the home of the brave, or are we the land of
the safe, and the home of the slave?

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer

Presuming that God is "only an idea" -
Ideas exist.
Therefore, God exists.

 

[Guy]

Awesome Post, Kevin!

Everyone thinks they know what it is like to be a parent until they become
one and realize they didn't. Everyone thinks they know what it is to be
married until they do and realize they didn't.

 

[Windsun]

You were probably in diapers when I first read 1984...

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[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

And that's probably because of all the photocops on the 101 - it's getting
very Orwellian around here lately.




| Yeah, it really sucks that the car accident death rate has dropped 50%
since
| 1960, and the pollution levels here in Phoenix are only 1/4 of what they
| used to be
|
| -------------------------------------------------------------------------
| | > That IS how we used to buy cars until the gov. required all the safety
and
| > pollution crap on them.
|
|

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

REmember the mother's curse: Just Wait Till You Have Kids!
The day you realize what mom meant was a real shocker eh?


|> Imagine buying a new car, but it doesn't come with door locks, an
ingition
| > lock, safety belts or air bags.
|
| I don't have to imagine it, Kerry. I did it, just like everyone else did,
| before those things existed, and before the government forced car
companies
| to include these things in the design of new cars. Actually, ignition
locks
| are not required by law. Yet.
|
| And back then, yeah, you did pay extra for it. And you still pay extra for
| anything that isn't mandatory. Like ignition locks.
|
| Now, one might argue the merits of the government requiring safety devices
| for cars. Arguably, they save lives. Has a computer virus ever killed
anyone
| you know?
|
| I have virus protection software. But I seldom use it. Know why? I don't
do
| things that get me a virus. And the existing software from Symantec and
| other virus protection software companies sucks.
|
| I will be 50 years old this month. And I have learned that everything we
| humans have, we create. That includes our food, our clothing and our
| shelter. When I was young, my parents provided those things for me. They
had
| to work to do it. Now, I AM my parents. And I realize that, someone has to
| pay for everything. If I don't, who will? The government? Where do you
think
| *they* get their money from? Someone, somewhere, has to work for it. And
| everything we have, everything we need, *someone* has to pay for it.
|
| So, the next time you enjoy something you think was free, or rightfully
| yours for some reason, just ask yourself - who paid for it?
|
| Who are your parents? And when they are no longer around, who *will be*?
|
| --
| HTH,
|
| Kevin Spencer
| Microsoft MVP
| .Net Developer
|
| Presuming that God is "only an idea" -
| Ideas exist.
| Therefore, God exists.
|
| | >
| >
| > "Kevin Spencer" wrote
| >> Hmm, so the same goes for Symantec? Macafee? All the other security
| >> software vendors?
| >>
| >> Microsoft didn't create these viruses, and Microsoft is not a public
| >> service agency. Do you do *your* job for free if it gets harder to do?
| >
| > Ford or GM didn't invent thieves and bad driving either.
| >
| > Imagine buying a new car, but it doesn't come with door locks, an
ingition
| > lock, safety belts or air bags.
| >
| > After purchasing the car you can drive to a business just down the
street
| > who'll install those much needed safety and security devices for you -
at
| > a cost.
| >
| > You'd by a car like that?
| >
|
|