On IE8, video plays for me, won't play for him

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micky

I can't find an active IE group, so I'm asking here, if that is okay.

My friend has an ACER netbook with Win XP (Home, iirc) and I have a
Dell tower with XP Pro, (Both are SP3) and we are both trying to play
the same video that is embedded in a webpage. It works for me, and
not for him.

The webpage says it only works with IE, so that's what we're using. .
I have IE8 and he had IE7, so when it didnt' work, we upgraded him to
8. After the upgrade, just before the video should start, it asked
to install an Active-X thingy, and I said yes, and it installed it,
but it still didn't play the video. I went back a step and clicked
on "start video" again, in the webpage, and this time it didn't ask
about any active-X, but it also still didn't play at all. The screen
comes up, as it always has, but the the square where the video would
appear is always blank, with a little red x in the upper left corner.
Trying to click on the X doesn't work. The cursor remains an arrow.

I've sort of run out of ideas, except to run msinfo32 in each computer
and compare the lists of Running Tasks and maybe some other
categories, which you might suggest to me. Do you think that might
help?

Maybe you have a bettter idea. I hope so.

Thanks.
 
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micky said:
I can't find an active IE group, so I'm asking here, if that is okay.

My friend has an ACER netbook with Win XP (Home, iirc) and I have a
Dell tower with XP Pro, (Both are SP3) and we are both trying to play
the same video that is embedded in a webpage. It works for me, and
not for him.

The webpage says it only works with IE, so that's what we're using. .
I have IE8 and he had IE7, so when it didnt' work, we upgraded him to
8. After the upgrade, just before the video should start, it asked
to install an Active-X thingy, and I said yes, and it installed it,
but it still didn't play the video. I went back a step and clicked
on "start video" again, in the webpage, and this time it didn't ask
about any active-X, but it also still didn't play at all. The screen
comes up, as it always has, but the the square where the video would
appear is always blank, with a little red x in the upper left corner.
Trying to click on the X doesn't work. The cursor remains an arrow.

I've sort of run out of ideas, except to run msinfo32 in each computer
and compare the lists of Running Tasks and maybe some other
categories, which you might suggest to me. Do you think that might
help?

Maybe you have a bettter idea. I hope so.

Thanks.

Get the latest version
Download the most recent version of Adobe Flash Player.

< http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html >
 
G

glee

replies inline...
micky said:
I can't find an active IE group, so I'm asking here, if that is okay.

My friend has an ACER netbook with Win XP (Home, iirc) and I have a
Dell tower with XP Pro, (Both are SP3) and we are both trying to play
the same video that is embedded in a webpage. It works for me, and
not for him.

What is the URL for the web page with the video, so we can check what it
is using?

The webpage says it only works with IE, so that's what we're using. .
I have IE8 and he had IE7, so when it didnt' work, we upgraded him to
8. After the upgrade, just before the video should start, it asked
to install an Active-X thingy, and I said yes, and it installed it,

....and exactly what was the name of the "ActiveX thingy" it asked to
install, that you allowed?

but it still didn't play the video. I went back a step and clicked
on "start video" again, in the webpage, and this time it didn't ask
about any active-X, but it also still didn't play at all. The screen
comes up, as it always has, but the the square where the video would
appear is always blank, with a little red x in the upper left corner.
Trying to click on the X doesn't work. The cursor remains an arrow.

Do videos play at other web sites?
 
M

micky

replies inline...


What is the URL for the web page with the video, so we can check what it
is using?

http://sollevinson.com/notice.php?id=23500 Click on the small blue
circle labeled "watch" and then click "Watch Service Video".

He normally uses a Mac, and only uses the netbook when he takes a
trip, which is not often. So it's probably behind on automatic
updates, though it did automatically update Java yesterday (I had to
click OK) and it did about 12 MS security updates also, plus the
malicious code checker. I don't know where he stands on Adobe
Flash Player.
...and exactly what was the name of the "ActiveX thingy" it asked to
install, that you allowed?

Sorry. I'm always so optimistic that I figured it was going to work
and I didn't take note.
Do videos play at other web sites?

I should have thought of that. I had him check, and yes, he can.
 
G

glee

micky said:
http://sollevinson.com/notice.php?id=23500 Click on the small blue
circle labeled "watch" and then click "Watch Service Video".

He normally uses a Mac, and only uses the netbook when he takes a
trip, which is not often. So it's probably behind on automatic
updates, though it did automatically update Java yesterday (I had to
click OK) and it did about 12 MS security updates also, plus the
malicious code checker. I don't know where he stands on Adobe
Flash Player.

Sorry. I'm always so optimistic that I figured it was going to work
and I didn't take note.

I should have thought of that. I had him check, and yes, he can.

I have IE7 here. When I clicked the "Watch" icon, the pop-up asked if I
wanted "to run Windows Media 6.4 Player Shim from Microsoft". It did
not ask if I wanted to install it, but if I wanted to run it. Did your
prompt say "run" or "install"?
"Run" approval in the Information Bar is different from "Install"
approval. Run is for code already on your PC. Install is for new code
that the website would like you to download and install. You should
already have the code and it should ask if you want to Run.

Once I allowed the control to run, the video played fine, starting on
it's own. My XP installation has Windows Media Player 10. Do you know
what version of WMP is on the netbook? There were issues using the WMP
6.4 shim code with Media Player 9.

The reason the browser asked if it could run the 6.4 shim is that the
web site is using an obsolete code from WMP 6.4 days, instead of
up-to-date code. It could be an issue on his netbook if WMP is not
updated. It is a Media Player issue more so than an IE issue, although
he could have some controls blocked in IE's security settings. Have him
go the Control Panel> Internet Options> Security tab, and click the
button near the bottom that says "Reset all zones to default level" and
click OK... see if that helps. If not, if he has Media Player 9
installed, have him update it to WMP 10 or 11 and see if that helps.
 
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Paul

micky said:
http://sollevinson.com/notice.php?id=23500 Click on the small blue
circle labeled "watch" and then click "Watch Service Video".

He normally uses a Mac, and only uses the netbook when he takes a
trip, which is not often. So it's probably behind on automatic
updates, though it did automatically update Java yesterday (I had to
click OK) and it did about 12 MS security updates also, plus the
malicious code checker. I don't know where he stands on Adobe
Flash Player.

Sorry. I'm always so optimistic that I figured it was going to work
and I didn't take note.

I should have thought of that. I had him check, and yes, he can.

I had no problem watching the video here, in IE6.

In fact, I wasn't prompted for ActiveX. It just ran.

On the page with the video, you can go to View : Source .
(At least you can on your machine, because we know the video plays for you.)

Notepad will open a file called "service-video[1]". That's what the View : Source
did for me. Now, look at the code in there.

The WebResource.axd and ScriptResource.axd, apparently pull code from .net files
on the client computer (not from the web). Some description is here. So this does
not constitute "ActiveX" or asking the user to install something.

http://scottonwriting.net/sowblog/archive/2010/10/28/just-where-is-webresource-axd.aspx

Now, another line of interest, is this one. It's pulling an ActiveX control from
microsoft.com . And you'd assume they provide some means of establishing trust
(so the browser doesn't get ticked about it). If the browser had a "high" security
setting, perhaps this attempt is enough to cause a prompt. It's actually an
"Object Linking and Embedding" OLE thing. The Version string will differ for
you, as the version is probably browser version dependent (the numbers down
the end). I'm using WMP9, so that would account for the 09 on the end ?

AC_AX_RunContent( 'id','MediaPlayer1','codebase',
'http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,0,02,0902',
'type','application/x-oleobject','height','262','standby',
'Loading Microsoft Windows MediaT Player components...','width','349','classid',
'CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95','viewastext','VIEWASTEXT','src',
'mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv"',
'autostart','true','showcontrols','true','transparentatstart','false','filename',
'mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv' );
//end AC code

Now, one thing to note at this point. You can make another
attempt to play the movie with Windows Media Player. Open
Windows Media Player as a standalone application. Mine is in
Start : Programs : Accessories : Entertainment : Windows Media Player.
Now, do a File : Open_URL in there. Now, paste this as the URL...
This is the streaming URL of the actual movie itself. Many web
sites would not expose a thing like this, for fear you could
actually play the movie :) Your friend can paste this into
his copy of Windows Media Player, using File : Open_URL.

mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv

The movie will now start to play in the window.

I don't see why the embedded version won't play, unless there is
some problem with browser security setting, versus loading

http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab

Maybe that's what is causing the prompting ?

Paul
 
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glee

Paul said:
micky said:
http://sollevinson.com/notice.php?id=23500 Click on the small blue
circle labeled "watch" and then click "Watch Service Video".

He normally uses a Mac, and only uses the netbook when he takes a
trip, which is not often. So it's probably behind on automatic
updates, though it did automatically update Java yesterday (I had to
click OK) and it did about 12 MS security updates also, plus the
malicious code checker. I don't know where he stands on Adobe
Flash Player.

Sorry. I'm always so optimistic that I figured it was going to work
and I didn't take note.

I should have thought of that. I had him check, and yes, he can.

I had no problem watching the video here, in IE6.

In fact, I wasn't prompted for ActiveX. It just ran.

On the page with the video, you can go to View : Source .
(At least you can on your machine, because we know the video plays for
you.)

Notepad will open a file called "service-video[1]". That's what the
View : Source
did for me. Now, look at the code in there.

The WebResource.axd and ScriptResource.axd, apparently pull code from
.net files
on the client computer (not from the web). Some description is here.
So this does
not constitute "ActiveX" or asking the user to install something.

http://scottonwriting.net/sowblog/archive/2010/10/28/just-where-is-webresource-axd.aspx

Now, another line of interest, is this one. It's pulling an ActiveX
control from
microsoft.com . And you'd assume they provide some means of
establishing trust
(so the browser doesn't get ticked about it). If the browser had a
"high" security
setting, perhaps this attempt is enough to cause a prompt. It's
actually an
"Object Linking and Embedding" OLE thing. The Version string will
differ for
you, as the version is probably browser version dependent (the numbers
down
the end). I'm using WMP9, so that would account for the 09 on the end
?

AC_AX_RunContent( 'id','MediaPlayer1','codebase',

'http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,0,02,0902',
'type','application/x-oleobject','height','262','standby',
'Loading Microsoft Windows MediaT Player
components...','width','349','classid',

'CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95','viewastext','VIEWASTEXT','src',

'mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv"',

'autostart','true','showcontrols','true','transparentatstart','false','filename',

'mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv'
);
//end AC code

Now, one thing to note at this point. You can make another
attempt to play the movie with Windows Media Player. Open
Windows Media Player as a standalone application. Mine is in
Start : Programs : Accessories : Entertainment : Windows Media Player.
Now, do a File : Open_URL in there. Now, paste this as the URL...
This is the streaming URL of the actual movie itself. Many web
sites would not expose a thing like this, for fear you could
actually play the movie :) Your friend can paste this into
his copy of Windows Media Player, using File : Open_URL.


mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv

The movie will now start to play in the window.

I don't see why the embedded version won't play, unless there is
some problem with browser security setting, versus loading


http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab

Maybe that's what is causing the prompting ?

No, the prompt is caused because the web page is trying to run code that
has not been previously used on his machine and is not in the local
"pre-approved list". The fact that you did not get the prompt in IE6 is
probably due to your having already run the code in your browser
sometime in the past, and/or that you are using IE6 which apparently
does not prompt for this the way IE7 and IE8 do.

This Website Wants to Run the Following Add-on - IEBlog -
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2007/04/25/this-website-wants-to-run-the-following-add-on.aspx
 
M

micky

I have IE7 here. When I clicked the "Watch" icon, the pop-up asked if I
wanted "to run Windows Media 6.4 Player Shim from Microsoft". It did
not ask if I wanted to install it, but if I wanted to run it. Did your
prompt say "run" or "install"?

Neither. I have and he probably has installed WMP, but so do you,
I'll bet. Anyhow it only said "The service video is onlline and
will be available until Monday , November 26, 2012 " and a little
box with "Watch Service Video"

I have and he probably has installed WMP

The videos are online for 4 months.
"Run" approval in the Information Bar is different from "Install"
approval. Run is for code already on your PC. Install is for new code
that the website would like you to download and install. You should
already have the code and it should ask if you want to Run.

Once I allowed the control to run, the video played fine, starting on
it's own. My XP installation has Windows Media Player 10. Do you know
what version of WMP is on the netbook?

I will ask him.

Thanks.
 
M

micky

micky said:
http://sollevinson.com/notice.php?id=23500 Click on the small blue
circle labeled "watch" and then click "Watch Service Video".

He normally uses a Mac, and only uses the netbook when he takes a
trip, which is not often. So it's probably behind on automatic
updates, though it did automatically update Java yesterday (I had to
click OK) and it did about 12 MS security updates also, plus the
malicious code checker. I don't know where he stands on Adobe
Flash Player.

Sorry. I'm always so optimistic that I figured it was going to work
and I didn't take note.

I should have thought of that. I had him check, and yes, he can.

I had no problem watching the video here, in IE6.

In fact, I wasn't prompted for ActiveX. It just ran.

On the page with the video, you can go to View : Source .
(At least you can on your machine, because we know the video plays for you.)

Notepad will open a file called "service-video[1]". That's what the View : Source
did for me. Now, look at the code in there.

The WebResource.axd and ScriptResource.axd, apparently pull code from .net files
on the client computer (not from the web). Some description is here. So this does
not constitute "ActiveX" or asking the user to install something.

I'm reading this all closely so that I can do it myself the next time.

And I just tried to write my first webpage this summer so I'm much
better acquainted with this code. (In the middle I checked again and
someone had already written what I wanted, so I stopped., but I still
learned stuff.)
http://scottonwriting.net/sowblog/archive/2010/10/28/just-where-is-webresource-axd.aspx

Now, another line of interest, is this one. It's pulling an ActiveX control from
microsoft.com . And you'd assume they provide some means of establishing trust
(so the browser doesn't get ticked about it). If the browser had a "high" security
setting, perhaps this attempt is enough to cause a prompt. It's actually an
"Object Linking and Embedding" OLE thing. The Version string will differ for
you, as the version is probably browser version dependent (the numbers down
the end). I'm using WMP9, so that would account for the 09 on the end ?

AC_AX_RunContent( 'id','MediaPlayer1','codebase',
'http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,0,02,0902',
'type','application/x-oleobject','height','262','standby',
'Loading Microsoft Windows MediaT Player components...','width','349','classid',
'CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95','viewastext','VIEWASTEXT','src',
'mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv"',
'autostart','true','showcontrols','true','transparentatstart','false','filename',
'mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv' );
//end AC code

Now, one thing to note at this point. You can make another
attempt to play the movie with Windows Media Player. Open
Windows Media Player as a standalone application. Mine is in
Start : Programs : Accessories : Entertainment : Windows Media Player.
Now, do a File : Open_URL in there. Now, paste this as the URL...
This is the streaming URL of the actual movie itself. Many web
sites would not expose a thing like this, for fear you could
actually play the movie :)
Hehe.

Your friend can paste this into
his copy of Windows Media Player, using File : Open_URL.

mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv

The movie will now start to play in the window.

It all works for me. And it's a lot bigger and I can almost see the
person talking!

I'll try to get him to do this tonight, to play the url above The
name is the same for you and for me twice, so I guess it will be the
same for him. He's 75 y.o. Usually he works alone, but I may have to
go over there.
I don't see why the embedded version won't play, unless there is

What about this? The line (paragraph?) you got the MMS address out
of is this:

<script type="text/javascript">
AC_AX_RunContent(
'id','MediaPlayer1','codebase','http://activex.microsoft.com/active...-oleobject','height','262','standby','Loading
Microsoft® Windows MediaT Player
components...','width','349','classid','CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95','viewastext','VIEWASTEXT','src','mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv"','autostart','true','showcontrols','true','transparentatstart','false','filename','mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv'
); //end AC code
</script>

After mms://wm.streaming.........wmv , right after the wmv is an
un-paired double quote sign, inside the pair of single quotes that
surrounds mms://wm.streaming.........wmv ,

Could that be a problem so that, embedded, WMP didn't play it. ?

I took the URL box in WMP, added a " to the right of the url (which,
conveniently, was still there) and got "WMP cannot connect to the
server...." Took it out and it played just fine again.

Thanks.
 
P

Paul

micky said:
What about this? The line (paragraph?) you got the MMS address out
of is this:

<script type="text/javascript">
AC_AX_RunContent(
'id','MediaPlayer1','codebase','http://activex.microsoft.com/active...-oleobject','height','262','standby','Loading
Microsoft® Windows MediaT Player
components...','width','349','classid','CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95','viewastext','VIEWASTEXT','src','mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv"','autostart','true','showcontrols','true','transparentatstart','false','filename','mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv'
); //end AC code
</script>

After mms://wm.streaming.........wmv , right after the wmv is an
un-paired double quote sign, inside the pair of single quotes that
surrounds mms://wm.streaming.........wmv ,

Could that be a problem so that, embedded, WMP didn't play it. ?

I took the URL box in WMP, added a " to the right of the url (which,
conveniently, was still there) and got "WMP cannot connect to the
server...." Took it out and it played just fine again.

Thanks.


<script type="text/javascript">
AC_AX_RunContent( 'id','MediaPlayer1','codebase',
'http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,0,02,0902',
'type','application/x-oleobject','height','262','standby',
'Loading Microsoft Windows MediaT Player components...',
'width','349','classid','CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95',
'viewastext','VIEWASTEXT','src',
'mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv"',
'autostart','true','showcontrols','true','transparentatstart','false',
'filename',
'mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv' );
//end AC code
</script>

You're right. There is an unbalanced double quote. But, the path to the WMV file is
repeated twice, and perhaps one of those is a "decorative" entry, while the other
is actually used as a file pointer ?

You would need the parameter list for "AC_AX_RunContent" to understand whether
the first one is a decoration. You would also need info, as to whether
double quote had any meaning in that context, or was treated as just an
ordinary character.

Paul
 
G

glee

micky said:
Neither. I have and he probably has installed WMP, but so do you,
I'll bet. Anyhow it only said "The service video is onlline and
will be available until Monday , November 26, 2012 " and a little
box with "Watch Service Video"

I have and he probably has installed WMP

The videos are online for 4 months.


It's not a question of whether Media Player is installed or not.... the
prompt occurs in IE7 or IE8 because the web page is trying to run code
that has not been previously run in that browser. If you did not get
the prompt on your machine but he did on his, it only means your browser
has already run the code sometime in the past, so it does not prompt for
it again. The prompt isn't asking to install Media Player (it's already
there)... it's asking to run the older Media Player code, from Media
Player 6.4. Media Player 9 and later use different code.

This Website Wants to Run the Following Add-on - IEBlog -
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2007/04/25/this-website-wants-to-run-the-following-add-on.aspx
 
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micky said:
Thanks. This is a little complicated for him to do himself, but next
time I have to go over there, I will check on it. There may be an
error in the webpage which might be the problem, an extra double
quote. .

"Sometime" just a flash-player update help,
to get the right codes to make things working..

As you have said:
Webpage which might be the problem,
that maybe true,
For some webmaster just test with Firefox on a lynx OS only,

Not thanking that a home Computer owners;
Have a Apple Mac OS or a Microsoft OS with:
Safari or a Internet Explorer.......
 
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Hot-Text

glee said:
It's not a question of whether Media Player is installed or not.... the
prompt occurs in IE7 or IE8 because the web page is trying to run code
that has not been previously run in that browser. If you did not get
the prompt on your machine but he did on his, it only means your browser
has already run the code sometime in the past, so it does not prompt for
it again. The prompt isn't asking to install Media Player (it's already
there)... it's asking to run the older Media Player code, from Media
Player 6.4. Media Player 9 and later use different code.

This Website Wants to Run the Following Add-on - IEBlog -
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2007/04/25/this-website-wants-to-run-the-following-add-on.aspx

I would like to get the Link to the website,
to see if the webmaster running ffmpeg in background .

and We need to know Defeat Player setting is.......
one maybe on WMP,
and one on QTP or RP as Defeat Player..
if so and the webmaster running ffmpeg,
and it make the code a WMV it will not play in QTP or RP....
 
M

micky

It's not a question of whether Media Player is installed or not.... the
prompt occurs in IE7 or IE8 because the web page is trying to run code
that has not been previously run in that browser. If you did not get
the prompt on your machine but he did on his, it only means your browser
has already run the code sometime in the past, so it does not prompt for
it again. The prompt isn't asking to install Media Player (it's already
there)... it's asking to run the older Media Player code, from Media
Player 6.4. Media Player 9 and later use different code.

This Website Wants to Run the Following Add-on - IEBlog -
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2007/04/25/this-website-wants-to-run-the-following-add-on.aspx
I get it now. Thanks.


He wants me to come over but not until Thursday at the earliest, so I
'll get back to you all some time after that.

Thanks Glee, Paul, Text.
 
G

glee

micky said:
I get it now. Thanks.


He wants me to come over but not until Thursday at the earliest, so I
'll get back to you all some time after that.

Thanks Glee, Paul, Text.

Let us know if you figure it out. Paul's info looks helpful.
 
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micky said:
I get it now. Thanks.

I need the link to the webpage
so I can see the code in it.......

qtplugin.cab [is the following-add-on Plug-in for QuickTime is in codebase this code]
nsmp2inf.cab [is WindowsMediaPlayer]
Some webmaster add this in the Code

TYPE= Image/quicktime [works]
TYPE=audio/x-midi [quicktime will Not run for a Image is not a audio file]

<object classid="clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B" width="305" height="250"
codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab">
<param name="src" value="qt-ker.jpg" TYPE="Image/quicktime">
<param name="autoplay" value="true">
<param name="controller" value="true">
<param name="loop" value="false">
<embed src="qt-ker.jpg" width="305" height="250" autoplay="true" controller="true" loop="false"
pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/">
</embed>
</object>


<OBJECT ID="WindowsMediaPlayer1" WIDTH=245 HEIGHT=240
CLASSID="CLSID:6BF52A52-394A-11D3-B153-00C04F79FAA6"
CODEBASE="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,4,7,1112">
<PARAM NAME="URL" VALUE="REO_Speedwagon__In_My_Dreams_1987.kar" type="application/x-oleobject">
<PARAM NAME="autoStart" VALUE="-1">
<PARAM NAME="volume" VALUE="50">
<embed src="REO_Speedwagon__In_My_Dreams_1987.kar" autoStart="true" volume="50" loop="0"
pluginspage="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/">
</embed>
 
M

micky

It all works for me. And it's a lot bigger and I can almost see the
person talking!

So this should pretty solve my friend's problem. He can do this too,
for this funeral and for any others that follow, unless he's less
competent than I think. Plus he can probably update WMP but he
hasn't gotten back to me what version it is now.

So, Paul, you've solved his actual problem.

Of course there are more avenues to check out.

Anyhow, so I tried the URL above in Firefox, and it worked fine there
too. Though I had to do some setup to get a .wmv link to call WMP
through Firefox. I guess I had never played a .wmv file through FF
before. Aand when it was done, it was just the external WMP program
anyhow, the same as if I'd just opened WMP.

I'll reporrt more experiments later.
 
M

micky

<script type="text/javascript">
AC_AX_RunContent( 'id','MediaPlayer1','codebase',
'http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,0,02,0902',
'type','application/x-oleobject','height','262','standby',
'Loading Microsoft Windows MediaT Player components...',
'width','349','classid','CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95',
'viewastext','VIEWASTEXT','src',
'mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv"',
'autostart','true','showcontrols','true','transparentatstart','false',
'filename',
'mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv' );
//end AC code
</script>

You're right. There is an unbalanced double quote. But, the path to the WMV file is
repeated twice, and perhaps one of those is a "decorative" entry, while the other
is actually used as a file pointer ?

By golly, it is there tiwce. It was vislble in the original notepad
view, had I Iooked, but in Agent, as you probably saw, much of the
second one was past the right margin.
You would need the parameter list for "AC_AX_RunContent" to understand whether
the first one is a decoration. You would also need info, as to whether
double quote had any meaning in that context, or was treated as just an
ordinary character.

Maybe tomorrow I'll feel like looking into that. No. Tomorrow came
and I didn't look. But I did have another idea.

Couldn't I make my own webpage, in a file on my computer,, copy
everything in from this one, fixing the first url and screwing up the
second one (and after that, vice versa) , and run that in one of those
webpage programs that make testing webpages easy?

Yes, I think I could but in doing so, I got distracted by more
elementary tests.

First I took the page from the IE Source and saved it as a file, whose
name ended in test-service-video.php I wanted to test this identical
page before I made changes to it.

In IE, I used File/Open (cntl-O), and it said to type the internet
address of a document, and gave no hint that it would work with a file
on my computer. But I prefixed the file name with file;// and (I
think it added one more / to the prefix, and ) it opened it as a text
file. I couldn't get it to open as a webpage, even though the file
name ended in .php and the text was the same as the source code.

Then I went to FF, which also has cntl-O, and I've used it so I know
it will open an .html, etc. file as if it is a webpage, and I tried
the same file, which opened and played the video, just fine.

Then I tried SeaMonkey, where it opens the page, but doesn't play the
video or even display the starting frame or the go/pause etc controls
until I click on the box where the video shows up, and then it plays
just fine. (It does so in the small original-size box. There is an
instruction to click on the box to enlarge the video. I didn't think
to click again.)


Next stage was to look into modifying the file, to determine which of
the two mms links was the important one and which was decoration.

This opened a can of worms. I can't remember all the details, and I
didn't take notes, and I was sleepy at midnight Wednesday night, but
I used various editors, Notepad, Wordpad, Editpad Lite, Editpad Pro,
and maybe Sea Monkey Composer, which is meant to write webpages with
and which I already know makes all kinds of changes to what I put in
(when I was trying to write a webpage) , in order to "correct" what
I've written to match its standards of what it thinks is valid html
and javascript.**

(**I had taken the source code for fully-functioning webpages and put
them in both Sea Monkey composer and in the mediocre difficult-to-use
proprietary webpage editor (whose name I forget) that verizon
provides, and in neither would the pages work right, even though they
worked right in reality. That's when I started using reality to write
the webpage, editing in an editor and testing with Firefox. Then I
searched again and found that someone else had written the page I
planned to write, so I just stopped. )


Editpad Pro and probably Lite are also meant for writing code iiuc, at
leat when the file name extension is one used for code, and they have
different rules based on the file name extension. But I didn't think
they actually changed text that I had inserted. I thought it just
highlighted in more than one color, and indented according to what was
writtten. Even Wordpad iirc made some change -- I think that was
only adding the suffix .txt to the file name, but I got around that by
changing the file type when I first "saved as" to "all files". .

With at least one editor, the single quotes around the second mms link
were changed into double quotes!!!! And not only that, it took the
ending single quote, and changed it to two consecutive double quotes.

Now I have to start at the begining again, maybe with Notepad (which I
think is what you or Glee recommended) , because I think it won't make
changes when I'm not looking.


I wonder if some change by some editor program is how the double
double-quotes got in the source code of the page we both looked at.


I may also narrow my scope and just get it to work for my friend, who
didn't call tonight Thursday and that means he won't have any time
until Sunday night or Monday night. (He's 75 but he still works full
time.)

Micky
 
H

Hot-Text

micky said:
It all works for me. And it's a lot bigger and I can almost see the
person talking!

I'll try to get him to do this tonight, to play the url above The
name is the same for you and for me twice, so I guess it will be the
same for him. He's 75 y.o. Usually he works alone, but I may have to
go over there.


What about this? The line (paragraph?) you got the MMS address out
of is this:

<script type="text/javascript">
AC_AX_RunContent(
'id','MediaPlayer1','codebase','http://activex.microsoft.com/active...-oleobject','height','262','standby','Loading
Microsoft® Windows MediaT Player
components...','width','349','classid','CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95','viewastext','VIEWASTEXT','src','mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv"','autostart','true','showcontrols','true','transparentatstart','false','filename','mms://wm.streamingmediahosting.com/midcozmediallc/svc_ec3f5baf_SID4881.wmv'
); //end AC code
</script>

After mms://wm.streaming.........wmv , right after the wmv is an
un-paired double quote sign, inside the pair of single quotes that
surrounds mms://wm.streaming.........wmv ,

Could that be a problem so that, embedded, WMP didn't play it. ?

I took the URL box in WMP, added a " to the right of the url (which,
conveniently, was still there) and got "WMP cannot connect to the
server...." Took it out and it played just fine again.

Thanks.

for the script needed this
id="MediaPlayer"
Not <MediaPlayer1> default Player..
for the script needed this too in it...
classid="CLSID:22D6f312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95"
So the the Player can get the right file..

so it not IE error
But a Webmaster Error here..

nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,0,02,0902'
404 - File or directory not found.
The resource you are looking for might have been removed,
had its name changed,
or is temporarily unavailable.

For Microsoft have remove nsmp2inf.cab
Only available download from services like:
Rapidshare Megaupload Mediafire

Napster Music Player 2 is nsmp2inf
"Note inf is a list of online stores offering."
to show in Media Guide when listen to,
radio stations that broadcast over the Internet...

for Microsoft do not use Napster now days.......

So you have the old nsmp2inf.cab on your PC....
And Your friend do not..

So do as Paul Said::
paste it into Windows Media Player ""The URL""
 

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