Omit Page # on first page

[JethroUK©]

Is there a method of omitting page number on 1st and retaining the rest of
headers/footers (so it doesn't have to be typed in again)

someone suggested:

{ IF { Page } > 1 "{ Page }" }

sounds logical, but i cant get this to work at all - do fields use IF
operator?

 

[garfield-n-odie]

You're close... the field is { IF { PAGE } > 1, { PAGE } }. Another way
to do this is to click on File | Page Setup | Layout | check the
"Different first page" box.

 

[Greg Maxey]

g-n-o,

Why the comma?

Jethro,

Yours should work as well. The speach marks are extraneous.
Are you sure that you are using CTRL+F9 to enter all pairs of field code
brackets?

 

[garfield-n-odie]

Sorry, Greg and Jethro, just a habit from Excel. The comma isn't
absolutely necessary in this case, but doesn't hurt in this case either.

 

[JethroUK©]

CTRL F9 was my problem - i entered it all manually - thanx

 

[JethroUK©]

'different 1st page' sections the doc doesn't it? - so you have to enter 2
sets of headers/footers, which is very untidy

it would be better if Word entered the condition instead of breaking up the
document

 

[garfield-n-odie]

Selecting "different first page" does not create a new section. If you
don't want anything in the first page header and footer, you don't have
to create them... just create one header and footer on page 2. Like
many things in Word, there's more than one way to do something, and this
is just a different way. I offered it as a suggestion because today
another poster was offered a solution involving fields and replied
"Yikes, I don't know anything about fields... hieroglyphics... is there
another way?"

 

[JethroUK©]

Selecting "different first page" does not create a new section.

then what does it do?

i need to use the simplest way to setup headers/footers, but leave out page
numbering on 1 st page - when using built-in methods it sections off the 1st
page, so any other header/footer information has to be repeated in 2nd page
(section)

 

[garfield-n-odie]

For what you want to do with the page number, either method is equally
"simple" IMHO. Some people want different text and/or graphics in the
header/footer of the first page than other pages (e.g., electronic
letterhead, running heads), and "different first page" allows for this
without having to insert a section break.

 

[Margaret Aldis]

then what does it do?

Creates (or rather, gives visibility to) a separate header and footer for
the first page of the section or doc. Similarly, 'Different Odd and Even'
gives visibility to a separate 'even' header and footer.

i need to use the simplest way to setup headers/footers, but leave out page
numbering on 1 st page - when using built-in methods it sections off the 1st
page, so any other header/footer information has to be repeated in 2nd page
(section)

You are right that you need to set up the headers and footers in two places
if you use different 1st page - but it is confusing to think of this as
'sectioning off' - there is no Word Section Break involved. If you set this
up in a template it's a once-off copying operation - use temporary page
breaks so you can see all the headers and footers while you work on them,
then delete the page breaks. Thereafter, those headers and footers will
appear/disappear according to the pages you have and the 'different first
page' page layout switch.

 

[JethroUK©]

thanx for all the tips - but i've found a simple solution is to cover it up
with a drawing object )

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

This won't work on all printers and is quite unnecessary. What is your
objection to using the feature Word has intended for this purpose?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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[JethroUK©]

i'm not sure about 'unnecessary' (implies it's a long way round), since it's
quicker/easier than any built-in method to apply - it only has to work on my
printer & i'll check it out - thanx

I've pretty well aired the problems with built-in features - requires 2
headers/footers setting up (takes twice as long & is open to inconsistent
headers/footers)

my students have to complete a 3 hour exam in M.S. Word - in the whole 3
hours they are only allowed 3 typos (accuracy errors) - last thing i need is
them to attract an error on this simple issue - i have to minimise the
chances of this happening - the built-in features double their time on this
objective & at the same time, double their chance of commiting accuracy
errors - so basically, it's a four-fold no-go - hence i considered adding a
condition

like i mentioned previously - had any of the built-in features simply added
a condition to the page numbering it would've been ideal for my circumstance

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

If all you're trying to do is leave a header/footer blank (as I gathered
from your electronic whiteout solution), then I don't see how that's setting
up two headers/footers. You just set up one header/footer, then select
"Different first page," which leaves the First Page Header/Footer blank. I
personally would find it much more fiddling to create an AutoShape and place
it over the page number (and hope that it stays put).

Moreover, if the only content of the header/footer will be the page number,
your best bet is to use the Insert | Page Numbers... feature and clear the
check box for "Show number on first page."

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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[JethroUK©]

If all you're trying to do is leave a header/footer blank (as I gathered
from your electronic whiteout solution),

no, that's the problem - the header (or footer) needs other information
(including page no - except on page 1)

then I don't see how that's setting
up two headers/footers.

they would need to, if they used any of the built-in methods - alas they
wont have to if they simply cover up the page no with a drawing object

You just set up one header/footer, then select
"Different first page," which leaves the First Page Header/Footer blank.

like you see, that's not what i need (which all the built-in functions also
'assume')

I
personally would find it much more fiddling to create an AutoShape and place
it over the page number (and hope that it stays put).

i did it in under 4 seconds (including erasing the borderline)

Moreover, if the only content of the header/footer will be the page number,
your best bet is to use the Insert | Page Numbers... feature and clear the
check box for "Show number on first page."

again the same assumptions the features make - but not the case in this
situation

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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i'm not sure about 'unnecessary' (implies it's a long way round), since it's
quicker/easier than any built-in method to apply - it only has to work

on

my
printer & i'll check it out - thanx

I've pretty well aired the problems with built-in features - requires 2
headers/footers setting up (takes twice as long & is open to inconsistent
headers/footers)

my students have to complete a 3 hour exam in M.S. Word - in the whole 3
hours they are only allowed 3 typos (accuracy errors) - last thing i

need

is
them to attract an error on this simple issue - i have to minimise the
chances of this happening - the built-in features double their time on this
objective & at the same time, double their chance of commiting accuracy
errors - so basically, it's a four-fold no-go - hence i considered

adding

a
condition

like i mentioned previously - had any of the built-in features simply added
a condition to the page numbering it would've been ideal for my circumstance


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[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Okay, I guess that's what I'm not understanding, since it is very unusual to
have a page that has a header but omits the page number. Usually I have a
drop folio (page number in the footer) on the first page of a chapter, with
headers (with or without page numbers) beginning on the second page.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

If all you're trying to do is leave a header/footer blank (as I gathered
from your electronic whiteout solution),

no, that's the problem - the header (or footer) needs other information
(including page no - except on page 1)

then I don't see how that's setting
up two headers/footers.

they would need to, if they used any of the built-in methods - alas they
wont have to if they simply cover up the page no with a drawing object

You just set up one header/footer, then select
"Different first page," which leaves the First Page Header/Footer blank.

like you see, that's not what i need (which all the built-in functions also

'assume')

I
personally would find it much more fiddling to create an AutoShape and place
it over the page number (and hope that it stays put).

i did it in under 4 seconds (including erasing the borderline)

Moreover, if the only content of the header/footer will be the page number,
your best bet is to use the Insert | Page Numbers... feature and clear the
check box for "Show number on first page."

again the same assumptions the features make - but not the case in this
situation

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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newsgroup

 

[JethroUK©]

Okay, I guess that's what I'm not understanding, since it is very unusual to
have a page that has a header but omits the page number. Usually I have a
drop folio (page number in the footer) on the first page of a chapter, with
headers (with or without page numbers) beginning on the second page.

i think the usual practise is to put page numbering in it's own
header/footer - but unfortunately the students have to do what the
assignment says - thanx anyway

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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all may benefit.

no, that's the problem - the header (or footer) needs other information
(including page no - except on page 1)


they would need to, if they used any of the built-in methods - alas they
wont have to if they simply cover up the page no with a drawing object

blank.

like you see, that's not what i need (which all the built-in functions also

i did it in under 4 seconds (including erasing the borderline)


again the same assumptions the features make - but not the case in this
situation
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