OEM version not compatable

G

Guest

Greetings,

I have a home-built computer that had a licensed version of Win2K. I made
minor hardware changes including a HD. The primary purpose was to upgrade the
OS. I purshased and installed an OEM version of XP Pro. I have been unable to
resolve a problem of constant BSOD. Even though the MOBO and processor is
not that old it seems this machine has some sort of conflict with XP.
With this situation if I were to build a new machine would MS allow the OM
version of XP to be used?
Would I have to call to deactivate the first install or will the the new
install activate?

Thanks,

Joe
 
T

thecreator

Hi Joe,

I can't speak for Microsoft, but you don't know, if you don't try it. It
all depends on how many activations are left on that Product Key.

But did you do a clean install of Windows XP Professional and install
new XP Drivers.

A clean install is a format and install of the operating system.
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

"It all depends on how many activations are left..."
An infinite # of activations are left since Windows XP can be
activated an unlimited # of times on the same computer.
 
R

Ron Martell

J. A. H. said:
Greetings,

I have a home-built computer that had a licensed version of Win2K. I made
minor hardware changes including a HD. The primary purpose was to upgrade the
OS. I purshased and installed an OEM version of XP Pro. I have been unable to
resolve a problem of constant BSOD. Even though the MOBO and processor is
not that old it seems this machine has some sort of conflict with XP.
With this situation if I were to build a new machine would MS allow the OM
version of XP to be used?
Would I have to call to deactivate the first install or will the the new
install activate?

Thanks,

Joe

What are the specifics of the BSOD?
If it is a STOP message, what is the STOP code and the 4 associated
parameter values?

It may be possible to fix whatever the problem is.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
G

Guest

In such cases the first thing is to determine whether you have a hardware or
software problem. Running the system with a bootable CD (Knoppix, Ubuntu,
etc) for a good while should tell you if the hardware is basically OK, or
not.

The only thing this won't test is of course the HD, and the IDE interface.
 
G

Guest

What are the specifics of the BSOD?
If it is a STOP message, what is the STOP code and the 4 associated
parameter values?

It may be possible to fix whatever the problem is.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

Ron,

Thanks fo the offer to help.

The install was clean and the first install, some files failed to copy. It
appeared that the dick was defective so I sent for a replacement. The install
from the second disk went fine.
One ofthe most common errors is: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
stop:0x0000000a
0x80800000
0x0000000ff
0x00000000
0x0804f5f3b
Another common one is PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA
I don't have the paramaters available on that right now because the I have
not had the time to work on it lately. I downloaded a hotfix from MS the
other day but that did not solve the issue. It made it worse. I'll have to
uninstall it and get into the error logs and copy them to a file for you. In
the mean time maybe this can shed some light on the issue.
 
G

Guest

Jupiter,
Thanks for the reply, I'll see if Ron can shed a little more light on the
issue before I try another build.

Jupiter Jones said:
"It all depends on how many activations are left..."
An infinite # of activations are left since Windows XP can be
activated an unlimited # of times on the same computer.
 
J

Jim

J. A. H. said:
Ron,

Thanks fo the offer to help.

The install was clean and the first install, some files failed to copy. It
appeared that the dick was defective so I sent for a replacement. The
install
from the second disk went fine.
One ofthe most common errors is: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
stop:0x0000000a
0x80800000
0x0000000ff
0x00000000
0x0804f5f3b
Another common one is PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA
I don't have the paramaters available on that right now because the I have
not had the time to work on it lately. I downloaded a hotfix from MS the
other day but that did not solve the issue. It made it worse. I'll have
to
uninstall it and get into the error logs and copy them to a file for you.
In
the mean time maybe this can shed some light on the issue.
Both of these errors are coming frorm a routine in non paged pool. Drivers
live there.
Jim
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Hi Joe,

I can't speak for Microsoft, but you don't know, if you don't try it. It
all depends on how many activations are left on that Product Key.


No, there is *no* number of activations associated with a product key.
Windows XP can be reinstalled and reactivated as often as you need or
want to.
 
S

smlunatick

Jupiter,
Thanks for the reply, I'll see if Ron can shed a little more light on the
issue before I try another build.

:





- Show quoted text -

Since you are planning to replace the motherboard, you can not
"officially" transfer the OEM license from the "old" motherboard. OEM
versions of XP are "forever" tied to the first PC they get installed
on. Since the motherboard is the major component for most PCs, this
change would in effect be considered a "new" PC.

As for the "current" motherboard, have you ever considered checking
for an updated BIOS. I do remember that several "years ago", just
when XP first came out, several motherboard makers were publishig BIOS
updates for their motherboards, so as to make them XP compatible.
 
R

Ron Martell

One ofthe most common errors is: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
stop:0x0000000a
0x80800000
0x0000000ff
0x00000000
0x0804f5f3b

For this stop code the value in parameter 4 is the memory address
where the error occurred. If this error is a recurring one, with the
same parameter values each time, then identifying the specific device
driver, windows component or application program involved is probably
the next step that needs to be taken. Here are some instructions for
doing this:



Identifying the cause of STOP errors using PSTAT & Excel

Many times when a STOP error occurs the information provided does not
specifically identify the application, device driver, or other
component file where the error occurred. However the 4 parameters
associated with the STOP (bugcheck) code will very often include one
that is the address where the error occurred. You first need to look
up the detailed information about the specific STOP code in order to
determine if the address is included and if so which of the 4
parameters has the address.

You can identify the meaning of each of the parameters for your
specific STOP code at:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms789516.aspx

The second step in the procedure is to identify the addresses that
each active process is being loaded at. The PSTAT utility will
provide this information. On some systems the PSTAT utility may
already be present. Check this by opening a Command Prompt window
(Start - Run - CMD) and entering the following command:

PSTAT /?

If PSTAT is not on your computer you can download it free from
Microsoft. The download is called "Windows XP Service Pack 2 Support
Tools" and it is available from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...76-9BB9-4126-9761-BA8011FABF38&displaylang=en
With PSTAT installed on your computer the next step is to open a
Command Prompt window again (Start - Run - CMD) and generate a report
with PSTAT. Because you need to copy part of the information from
this report (and only part) it is best to create the report as a text
file. In the Command Prompt window enter the following command:

PSTAT > C:\JUNK\PSTAT.TXT

You may change C:\JUNK\ to whatever drive and folder that you want to
save the report into.

Now open the saved file in Notepad. Start - Run - NOTEPAD
C:\JUNK\PSTAT.TXT

Scroll down the file, about 80% of the way to the end of the file and
you will find a head line:

ModuleName Load Addr Code Data Paged LinkDate

It is the information from this line to the end of the file that we
want to copy from this file and save as a separate file. Select the
block of text and copy it to the clipboard. Open a new notepad window
and paste the clipboard contents into it. Save this file under a
different name. I use PSTAT2.TXT and put it into the same C:\JUNK
folder.

Now launch Microsoft Excel and use File - Open to bring the PSTAT2.TXT
file into Excel. Excel will automatically parse the file into
columns. Once this is done use DATA - SORT to sort the entire
spreadsheet based on the value in Column B (Load Addr).

It is now a simple task to read down the addresses until you find the
highest value that is less than the address where the error occurred.
That module (name in column A) is the prime suspect for the cause of
your error.


Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
G

Guest

Ron,

I found the info you sent on another thread in this community. Unfortunately
I tried to download this tool after trying a hot fix also found in this
community KB Article Number(s): 924809. The hot fix caused even more problems
and IE could not download the tool. It kept closing. Other programs also were
affected. I now must decide to either rebuild the machine or try one more
time to reinstall to see if it really is the a current hardware problem.

Thank you, I appreciate your assistance.

Joe
 
N

neil

When you say reinstall just make sure you format and install & not a repair
install.
Neil
 

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