O.T. Ink Jet Cleaning Fluid

J

jt3

have you tried:

http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/

They address the issue directly, and sell a kit, the cost of which is only
about $10, but if you're worried about trying 'Household' ammonia
(solution), [I wouldn't be--dilute NH3(aq) is pretty innocuous, just don't
breathe lots of it].

Hth,
Joe
 
S

Smirnoff

Thanks.
have you tried:

http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/

They address the issue directly, and sell a kit, the cost of which is only
about $10, but if you're worried about trying 'Household' ammonia
(solution), [I wouldn't be--dilute NH3(aq) is pretty innocuous, just don't
breathe lots of it].

Hth,
Joe
Smirnoff said:
My Epson printer has clogged ink jets and needs a suitable pH liquid to
clean
them.
I live in the UK and am having trouble obtaining an ammonia-based fluid.
In the US a window cleaner called Windex does the job but the UK
equivalent, Windolene (the blue one) is very difficult to come by.
If I go into a chemist and ask for ammonia, I'm looked upon like a
potential mugger!
Is there a proprietry brand of ammonia- based ink cleaning fluid, perhaps
available from a PC outlet?
Any suggestions welcomed (eh, already thought of urine, I'll leave that
as a last resort!).
Thanks
 
J

jt3

You're most welcome.

Joe
Smirnoff said:
Thanks.
have you tried:

http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/

They address the issue directly, and sell a kit, the cost of which is only
about $10, but if you're worried about trying 'Household' ammonia
(solution), [I wouldn't be--dilute NH3(aq) is pretty innocuous, just don't
breathe lots of it].

Hth,
Joe
Smirnoff said:
My Epson printer has clogged ink jets and needs a suitable pH liquid to
clean
them.
I live in the UK and am having trouble obtaining an ammonia-based fluid.
In the US a window cleaner called Windex does the job but the UK
equivalent, Windolene (the blue one) is very difficult to come by.
If I go into a chemist and ask for ammonia, I'm looked upon like a
potential mugger!
Is there a proprietry brand of ammonia- based ink cleaning fluid, perhaps
available from a PC outlet?
Any suggestions welcomed (eh, already thought of urine, I'll leave that
as a last resort!).
Thanks
 
L

Lem

jt3 said:
You're most welcome.

Joe
Smirnoff said:
Thanks.
have you tried:

http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/

They address the issue directly, and sell a kit, the cost of which is only
about $10, but if you're worried about trying 'Household' ammonia
(solution), [I wouldn't be--dilute NH3(aq) is pretty innocuous, just don't
breathe lots of it].

Hth,
Joe
My Epson printer has clogged ink jets and needs a suitable pH liquid to
clean
them.
I live in the UK and am having trouble obtaining an ammonia-based fluid.
In the US a window cleaner called Windex does the job but the UK
equivalent, Windolene (the blue one) is very difficult to come by.
If I go into a chemist and ask for ammonia, I'm looked upon like a
potential mugger!
Is there a proprietry brand of ammonia- based ink cleaning fluid, perhaps
available from a PC outlet?
Any suggestions welcomed (eh, already thought of urine, I'll leave that
as a last resort!).
Thanks

Two points.
Under NO circumstances let any household bleach product containing
chlorine anywhere near ammonia. The mixture of the two forms a highly
poisonous chloramine gas that cause coughing, choking and lung damage.

The household product sometimes called "cloudy ammonia" contains a
detergent along with the ammonia. I have no idea if this is good or bad
when used to clean inkjet heads.
 
B

Bob I

Plenty of ammonia in a diaper pail.
Perhaps this will explain my situation better, quoting from the manual:

"Throughout this manual I use the term "Windex", which is a North
American name brand window cleaning liquid. In the last few years, the
Windex name has been applied to several types of cleaners, extending
beyond the window cleaner type, and the company now has many versions
of the product including "scented" "multi-surface" (which contains
vinegar, which is the WRONG pH for most Epson inks) "citrus or orange
oil fortified" (which contains oils which may be harmful to some
plastics used in printers) etc. Even standard blue Windex is not what
it used to be, as that formula no longer contains ammonia. In some
markets, Windex "original" has been reintroduced, which does, as
recommended, have ammonia in it.

"Therefore, to clarify, when I indicate the term "Windex" in this manual,
I mean either Windex with Ammonia "D" (or "original Windex") or any
standard generic window cleaning liquid which contains ammonia. In the
UK, there are several products sold under the name "Windolene". One is
a thick pink liquid, which is NOT appropriate. Another is a water-like
constancy blue liquid, which I have been told is similar to Windex in
North America, and appears to work similarly to it. There is a no-drop
Windolene formula which is clear and may state "original" on it. This
is NOT recommended as it has no ammonia, is too thick, and instead
contains a very dilute (1%) Sodium Hydroxide which may be damaging to
some metal components. If you cannot locate an ammoniated window
cleaner, try to locate household strength NON-sudsy ammonia, which is
used as a home cleaning agent, or for stripping some types of floor wax.
You can tell something which has ammonia in it by it's very
characteristic odor (a concentrated form was used in "smelling salts").
Try to avoid inhaling in quantity as it is caustic and the vapor is not
good for your lungs."

I'll keep looking
 
H

Haggis

Lem said:
jt3 said:
You're most welcome.

Joe
Smirnoff said:
Thanks.

jt3 wrote:
have you tried:

http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/

They address the issue directly, and sell a kit, the cost of which is only
about $10, but if you're worried about trying 'Household' ammonia
(solution), [I wouldn't be--dilute NH3(aq) is pretty innocuous, just don't
breathe lots of it].

Hth,
Joe
My Epson printer has clogged ink jets and needs a suitable pH liquid
to
clean
them.
I live in the UK and am having trouble obtaining an ammonia-based fluid.
In the US a window cleaner called Windex does the job but the UK
equivalent, Windolene (the blue one) is very difficult to come by.
If I go into a chemist and ask for ammonia, I'm looked upon like a
potential mugger!
Is there a proprietry brand of ammonia- based ink cleaning fluid, perhaps
available from a PC outlet?
Any suggestions welcomed (eh, already thought of urine, I'll leave
that
as a last resort!).
Thanks

Two points.
Under NO circumstances let any household bleach product containing
chlorine anywhere near ammonia. The mixture of the two forms a highly
poisonous chloramine gas that cause coughing, choking and lung damage.

The household product sometimes called "cloudy ammonia" contains a
detergent along with the ammonia. I have no idea if this is good or bad
when used to clean inkjet heads.

I picked up a standard refill kit(Epson) the other day and it held a
container of "flush" for the cartridge..smelled like ammonia to me ...
 
J

jt3

True, but no one suggested anything about using chlorine bleach; sodium
hypochlorite is certainly a strong oxidizing agent and would damage the
nozzle, without question. Nitrosyl chloride, generated by the addition of
aqueous NH3 to sodium hypochlorite solutions, as you suggest, is an even
stronger oxidizing agent--neither of these oxidizers should be present here
for any reason.

Household ammonia does indeed come in two forms, one plain, and one sudsy.
I don't have anything to suggest about the possibility of the
detergent/surfactant in the sudsy form causing problems, except that there
may be adhesives in the construction which might be more susceptible to
attack in their presence. Most empirically-based advice I have read says to
use only the non-sudsy form. This may be on the principle that the fewer
extraneous components added, the better.

Joe
Lem said:
jt3 said:
You're most welcome.

Joe
Smirnoff said:
Thanks.

jt3 wrote:
have you tried:

http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/

They address the issue directly, and sell a kit, the cost of which is only
about $10, but if you're worried about trying 'Household' ammonia
(solution), [I wouldn't be--dilute NH3(aq) is pretty innocuous, just don't
breathe lots of it].

Hth,
Joe
My Epson printer has clogged ink jets and needs a suitable pH liquid to
clean
them.
I live in the UK and am having trouble obtaining an ammonia-based fluid.
In the US a window cleaner called Windex does the job but the UK
equivalent, Windolene (the blue one) is very difficult to come by.
If I go into a chemist and ask for ammonia, I'm looked upon like a
potential mugger!
Is there a proprietry brand of ammonia- based ink cleaning fluid, perhaps
available from a PC outlet?
Any suggestions welcomed (eh, already thought of urine, I'll leave that
as a last resort!).
Thanks

Two points.
Under NO circumstances let any household bleach product containing
chlorine anywhere near ammonia. The mixture of the two forms a highly
poisonous chloramine gas that cause coughing, choking and lung damage.

The household product sometimes called "cloudy ammonia" contains a
detergent along with the ammonia. I have no idea if this is good or bad
when used to clean inkjet heads.
 

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