Nv47: 24 pipes. Spring 05

[Radeon350]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20041208014939.html

"While NVIDIA remains extremely tight-lipped over its future products,
it is known that the company is readying its code-named NV47 visual
processing unit, a massively revamped GeForce 6 architecture with 24
pixel pipelines. The NV47 is expected to be released sometime in
Spring, 2005, but it is unknown whether NVIDIA is ahead, or behind
ATI's R520 product.

The status of NVIDIA's future architecture code-named NV50 is also
uncertain: some reported recently that the chip had been cancelled, but
officials decline to confirm or deny the information."

 

[NightSky 421]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20041208014939.html

"While NVIDIA remains extremely tight-lipped over its future products,
it is known that the company is readying its code-named NV47 visual
processing unit, a massively revamped GeForce 6 architecture with 24
pixel pipelines. The NV47 is expected to be released sometime in
Spring, 2005, but it is unknown whether NVIDIA is ahead, or behind
ATI's R520 product.

The status of NVIDIA's future architecture code-named NV50 is also
uncertain: some reported recently that the chip had been cancelled, but
officials decline to confirm or deny the information."

I don't plan to do anything big in terms of upgrades to my PC until probably
2006, so I can imagine how much faster the new box will be by then compared
to my current machine which is now 15 months old! These sorts of
developments are promising.

 

[Tony DiMarzio]

Ya know what I want? I wan't two Vid cards. 1 ATI, and 1 NVidia. I wan't
them to both be < 50$, have 64 pixel pipelines, use GDDR4 at 1.5ghz and run
on the not-yet-conceived USB 3.0 interface that supports 800Gbps; this way I
can swap them out whenever I need to in no time at all. Shit... I could even
carry my USB 3.0 vid cards on my keys... but then I'd look like a real nerd
and it would really suck if I lost my keys.

Eh.....hmmm... anyway.... I'm thinkin ATI's gonna win next round.

R520 > NV47 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Nicholas Buenk]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20041208014939.html

"While NVIDIA remains extremely tight-lipped over its future products,
it is known that the company is readying its code-named NV47 visual
processing unit, a massively revamped GeForce 6 architecture with 24
pixel pipelines. The NV47 is expected to be released sometime in
Spring, 2005, but it is unknown whether NVIDIA is ahead, or behind
ATI's R520 product.

The status of NVIDIA's future architecture code-named NV50 is also
uncertain: some reported recently that the chip had been cancelled, but
officials decline to confirm or deny the information."

Err, and CPU's still only have 9 piplines.

 

[Richard Dower]

Err, and CPU's still only have 9 piplines.

We should have got 32 pipes with a 600MHz core clock and GDDR3 @
1.6Ghz!!!!!!

 

[Minotaur]

Ya know what I want? I wan't two Vid cards. 1 ATI, and 1 NVidia. I wan't
them to both be < 50$, have 64 pixel pipelines, use GDDR4 at 1.5ghz and run
on the not-yet-conceived USB 3.0 interface that supports 800Gbps; this way I
can swap them out whenever I need to in no time at all. Shit... I could even
carry my USB 3.0 vid cards on my keys... but then I'd look like a real nerd
and it would really suck if I lost my keys.

Eh.....hmmm... anyway.... I'm thinkin ATI's gonna win next round.

R520 > NV47 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well with IBM manufactoring nVidia's GPU and Sony pumping in a fortune
with there PS3 partnership, it should be interesting. Just imagine some
of the resources and technologies available to nVidia now from Sony.

Perhaps ATI needs AMD to do some of the fab work for there GPU

 

[Radeon350]

Nvidia's next gen PC GPU, whatever it is (not Nv47, but either NV50,
NV55, or NV60) will probably have 48 pipelines, at 600~700 Mhz. on 90
nm or 65 nm. just guessing.

 

[factory]

Err, and CPU's still only have 9 piplines.

CPU's generally only have one pipeline,
maily because they generally operate in a
serial manner. The stuff a GPU operates on is
highly parallelised so going with multiple
pipelines makes sense.

- Factory

 

[Nicholas Buenk]

CPU's generally only have one pipeline,
maily because they generally operate in a
serial manner. The stuff a GPU operates on is
highly parallelised so going with multiple
pipelines makes sense.

The 486 was the last CPU to have one pipeline....
The Athlon 64 has 9 the Pentium 4 7. Still the more piplines you have the
harder it is to push up mhz. And if GPU deal with more parallel data than
CPU's....

 

[Walter Mitty]

factory wrote:>

CPU's generally only have one pipeline,
maily because they generally operate in a
serial manner. The stuff a GPU operates on is
highly parallelised so going with multiple
pipelines makes sense.

- Factory

rubbish.

 

[cowboyz]

The 486 was the last CPU to have one pipeline....
The Athlon 64 has 9 the Pentium 4 7. Still the more piplines you have the
harder it is to push up mhz. And if GPU deal with more parallel data than
CPU's....

Out of interest. without me going and looking it up, how many pipelines on
the AMD XP CPUs?

 

[dvus]

factory wrote:>

rubbish.

Now, there's a convincing argument...

dvus

 

[factory]

The 486 was the last CPU to have one pipeline....
The Athlon 64 has 9 the Pentium 4 7. Still the more piplines you have the
harder it is to push up mhz. And if GPU deal with more parallel data than
CPU's....

The A64 has two pipelines, one for integer
and one for floating point, (cite:
http://sandpile.org/impl/k8.htm) what you are
referring to is pipeline stages, which is not
the same as a pipeline.

- Factory

 

[Ed Light]

Now, there's a convincing argument...

Somone was feeling quite pekid.

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Thanks, robots.

 

[Nicholas Buenk]

Out of interest. without me going and looking it up, how many pipelines on
the AMD XP CPUs?

The same number, the 64 just has a modified instruction decoder, ondie
memory controller and 64 bit and more... It's mostly the same as the XP.

 

[Nicholas Buenk]

The A64 has two pipelines, one for integer
and one for floating point, (cite:
http://sandpile.org/impl/k8.htm) what you are
referring to is pipeline stages, which is not
the same as a pipeline.

What is the difference?

 

[J. Clarke]

What is the difference?

A pipeline is just that. Each pipeline can have several operations going on
at once, each is a stage.

However, according to the AMD site, the Athlon XP has 6 pipelines, not
stages, 3 floating point and 3 integer, and the site that 'factory'
references does not say anything about how many pipelines are present, only
about the number of stages.

I can't find anything on the AMD site that says how many pipelines the
Athlon 64 has.

 

[Walter Mitty]

Now, there's a convincing argument...

Its not an argument. Anyone can find out for themselves.

 

[Memnoch]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20041208014939.html

"While NVIDIA remains extremely tight-lipped over its future products,
it is known that the company is readying its code-named NV47 visual
processing unit, a massively revamped GeForce 6 architecture with 24
pixel pipelines. The NV47 is expected to be released sometime in
Spring, 2005, but it is unknown whether NVIDIA is ahead, or behind
ATI's R520 product.

The status of NVIDIA's future architecture code-named NV50 is also
uncertain: some reported recently that the chip had been cancelled, but
officials decline to confirm or deny the information."

No doubt they are blowing smoke up ATI's collective arse. But interesting
reading nonetheless.

 

[deimos]

No doubt they are blowing smoke up ATI's collective arse. But interesting
reading nonetheless.

I wonder if the Register and other reports are simply miscontruing the
two chips. I.E., there is no NV50 yet, but a 47, or that an early
revision of one of the chips was scrapped (sort of like what happened
with early R500 development or what NVIDIA initially did with the NV40).