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Caty Hespel
Hi all,
On december 31. Marco Venturi described a problem (see
below). My PC is suffering from identical symptoms (same
OS, same behavior).
Has anyone since managed to solve this problem?
Has anyone had any useful comments or suggestions on how
to solve this problem?
Any help is much appreciated.
Caty
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Hi all!
I am a Windows power user and I always had, even with
different PC and RAM quantity, a problem recurring
atleast one time a day: when I have opened more than 20-
30 programs, the opening of new windows/programs doesn't
have effect or gives progressively strange effects (i.e.
windows without menu and buttons) till it doesn't do
anything anymore.
In this precise moment it's happening on my XP.
My strong suspect is that this has always been an
internal software limitation (connected to the limited
size of resource heaps) of Windows NT/2K/XP, as when in
Windows 3.x/9x/ME one got the "insufficient memory"
error.
My Task Manager is showing the following data and I can't
open even little applications without closing some
application before:
Totals:
Handles: 23194
Threads: 1249
Processes: 74
Physical Memory (K):
Total: 752016
Available: 154048
System Cache: 230176
Commit Charge (K):
Total: 1367024
Limit: 1871520
Peak: 1448860
Kernel Memory (K):
Total: 182012
Paged: 158696
Nonpaged: 23316
Anyway I don't think there's a strict relation of this
problem with the total physical memory or the total
physical+virtual memory. I think more that it's an
intrinsic Windows limitation. I think that it's a matter
of system resources/resource heaps instead of memory, as
this article describes well:
http://aumha.org/win4/a/resource.php (System Resources
FAQ).
In the case I try to launch a graphic Win16 application I
get the explicit error: "The Win 16 Subsystem has
insufficient resources to continue running.
Click on OK, close your applications, and restart your
machine." Fortunately it's normally sufficient to close
some application, without restarting, to come back to use
the program.
Setting this application to "Run in separate memory
space" or setting it in Compatibility Mode 9x doesn't
solve.
I'ld like to find a document with the "ultimate"
explanation of how is this limitation in Windows XP (NOT
an old document regarding 3.x/9x/ME nor NT) and to find
the way to increase the number of application I can open
simultaneously or, if this is not possible, how and how
much in the future this limitation will be enhanced by
Microsoft in future versions of Windows.
Does someone know something about all this?
I found this software that could help for win 16 programs
but it's too old:
http://www.qualitas.com/tech/max/goahead.htm.
and I found this opinion on the net: "Ron M. replies: RAM
Defrag programs are totally useless and cannot perform
any beneficial function for any computer. Period. All RAM
addresses are equally accessible and there is zero
difference in the time required to access addresses at
the opposite ends of the RAM address range as compared to
adjacent addresses. Both are virtually instantaneous.
Also "system resources" as the term was used in Windows
95/98/Me are totally irrelevant in Windows XP because XP
uses 32 bit resource heaps exclusively."
Marco Venturi
----------------------------------------------------------
This is the original thread:
http://groups.google.be/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.h
elp_and_support/browse_frm/thread/8c94e29ba94ea67e/af46735
3caa9f4d9?tvc=1&q=NT%2F2k%
2FXP+are+still+very+limited+in+the+max+&hl=nl#af467353caa9
f4d9
On december 31. Marco Venturi described a problem (see
below). My PC is suffering from identical symptoms (same
OS, same behavior).
Has anyone since managed to solve this problem?
Has anyone had any useful comments or suggestions on how
to solve this problem?
Any help is much appreciated.
Caty
----------------------------------------------------------
Hi all!
I am a Windows power user and I always had, even with
different PC and RAM quantity, a problem recurring
atleast one time a day: when I have opened more than 20-
30 programs, the opening of new windows/programs doesn't
have effect or gives progressively strange effects (i.e.
windows without menu and buttons) till it doesn't do
anything anymore.
In this precise moment it's happening on my XP.
My strong suspect is that this has always been an
internal software limitation (connected to the limited
size of resource heaps) of Windows NT/2K/XP, as when in
Windows 3.x/9x/ME one got the "insufficient memory"
error.
My Task Manager is showing the following data and I can't
open even little applications without closing some
application before:
Totals:
Handles: 23194
Threads: 1249
Processes: 74
Physical Memory (K):
Total: 752016
Available: 154048
System Cache: 230176
Commit Charge (K):
Total: 1367024
Limit: 1871520
Peak: 1448860
Kernel Memory (K):
Total: 182012
Paged: 158696
Nonpaged: 23316
Anyway I don't think there's a strict relation of this
problem with the total physical memory or the total
physical+virtual memory. I think more that it's an
intrinsic Windows limitation. I think that it's a matter
of system resources/resource heaps instead of memory, as
this article describes well:
http://aumha.org/win4/a/resource.php (System Resources
FAQ).
In the case I try to launch a graphic Win16 application I
get the explicit error: "The Win 16 Subsystem has
insufficient resources to continue running.
Click on OK, close your applications, and restart your
machine." Fortunately it's normally sufficient to close
some application, without restarting, to come back to use
the program.
Setting this application to "Run in separate memory
space" or setting it in Compatibility Mode 9x doesn't
solve.
I'ld like to find a document with the "ultimate"
explanation of how is this limitation in Windows XP (NOT
an old document regarding 3.x/9x/ME nor NT) and to find
the way to increase the number of application I can open
simultaneously or, if this is not possible, how and how
much in the future this limitation will be enhanced by
Microsoft in future versions of Windows.
Does someone know something about all this?
I found this software that could help for win 16 programs
but it's too old:
http://www.qualitas.com/tech/max/goahead.htm.
and I found this opinion on the net: "Ron M. replies: RAM
Defrag programs are totally useless and cannot perform
any beneficial function for any computer. Period. All RAM
addresses are equally accessible and there is zero
difference in the time required to access addresses at
the opposite ends of the RAM address range as compared to
adjacent addresses. Both are virtually instantaneous.
Also "system resources" as the term was used in Windows
95/98/Me are totally irrelevant in Windows XP because XP
uses 32 bit resource heaps exclusively."
Marco Venturi
----------------------------------------------------------
This is the original thread:
http://groups.google.be/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.h
elp_and_support/browse_frm/thread/8c94e29ba94ea67e/af46735
3caa9f4d9?tvc=1&q=NT%2F2k%
2FXP+are+still+very+limited+in+the+max+&hl=nl#af467353caa9
f4d9